RunnerNurse09

I am so sorry you are having this difficulty. I do not think it is fair for your employer to put such pressure on you for staying later. When I was a new grad on a med-surg floor, we typically has 8 patients. I have always been great with time management and usually didnt stay late, but it was EXTREMELY common for newer nurses to end up staying 1-2 hrs after their shift EVERY shift to chart. From what I know, they were not disciplined for having to stay. I understand every facility is different, but that really sounds ridiculous. Also, colostomy bags leak, even when put in place by certified ostomy nurses. It happens. If you dont feel like you are being given the support you need, then I would take the other job. Dont feel disappointed in yourself. It really takes time to settle in as a new nurse. Best of luck to you!

Agreed

So then the doctor you refer to is letting his patients make the decision based on risk benefit...isnt that what a provider is supposed to do ethically, isnt that what patient centered care is? When you listen to the drug commercials on television and they list the possible side effects to medications, do you think it makes patients more or less inclined to ask for them? Informed consent is one thing, scare tactics are another. I am not sure which you are speaking. I never, ever said I thought the flu shot was harmful, and I dont know how words are being twisted. 1) the flu shot can be, and is, beneficial. I personally do not feel it is effective enough based on what the CDC states for me personally to get it UNLESS i am required to do so. THAT is my choice. 2) I would never talk a patient out if getting vaccinated, or any other treatment. If a patient directly asked me the statistics on the flu shot, I would show them the stats from the CDC, and advise them as per the CDC is it highly recommended. Period. I would never advise otherwise unless the recommendations changed. No doctor or any provider should be hiding information on the risk vs. benefit of a procedure.

Again, I have never misinformed anyone about the flu shot.

I agree with you as well. I honestly think the biggest fault I find is in the way it is marketed. patients should be aware of the statistics on how effective it may be. some people actually think it is almost fully protective, and then when they get the flu, they think they got it from the vaccine, which isn't the case.

Absolutely. In fact, I think autism and the vaccine debate was a hot topic when my kids were small and they were vaccinated. I never even thought about if it was mandatory or not, wasn't an issue for me.

If your referring to me, i never said i was anti-vaccine. My children are up to date on all of their vaccines. I am required to receive a round of vaccines again for employment purposes in the future even though I show immunity for things such as MMR and that's fine. I routinely give patients their flu shots. I have never said to any of those patients "hey, would you like to know how I feel about the flu shot?" I love science and have always excelled in it. My husband has never gotten the flu shot by his own choice. If tomorrow he decided to get it, well good for him. I will be required to get it next year, and that's fine.

Yes I understand this. However the effectiveness of the flu vaccine vs some others are quite different, which is why I feel the way I do for for my own vaccination choices.

If you noticed, I stated I don't spread my opinion . Cursing is classy.

Show me the statistics that say the flu vaccine is 100% effective. And it is opinion. It's my opinion that the flu vaccine is not worth getting if I am not asked by an employer to do so.

You are so damn hostile.

And that is your choice. What you are not getting is I have the right to make my own choices. It is amazing how part of this thread discussed people forcing their opinions down the throats of others. I voiced my opinion and my own personal choices and pretty much got attacked for it. It seems you are angry/upset at how I feel about the vaccine. I stated already I do not voice my opinion on any vaccine to patients. So why you feel so heated about what vaccines I choose for myself or my family makes no sense.

And I respect YOUR views, opinion, beliefs. Aren't nurses supposed to respect the autonomy of others? So shouldn't you respect mine?

Wow you are really pushing the issue. It is your opinion.

Our views differ. You can choose that vaccine for your kids, I wouldnt.