Lousy Professor or lousy student?

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Hello everyone,

wanted ask ask the question if it is the students fault or the Professors fault to succeed in nursing school? Who has more responsibility to make sure we have future qualified and quality nurses?

Specializes in ED, psych.
You are affiliated and you show up everywhere. Jesus I was right. Major fake infos you spread .

No no no ... I get paid by BIG PHARMA.

(Don't we?)

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Specializes in NICU, ICU, PICU, Academia.
Don't blame me, George Soros hasn't paid me in months. I had to make ends meet some how.

;)

Right! Hey, there's always cam modeling if things get really tight.

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No no no ... I get paid by BIG PHARMA.

(Don't we?)

Finally, you give in. Pharma, I totally forgot bout them.

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Specializes in Inpatient Psychiatry.

Are you just in the mood to play devil's advocate tonight? First the inflammatory "nursing shortage" question, and now this.

You mad at something?

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Are you just in the mood to play devil's advocate tonight? First the inflammatory "nursing shortage" question, and now this.

You mad at something?

Not really, just advocating for the poor American student who is being taken advantage all the time.

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Right! Hey, there's always cam modeling if things get really tight.

Modeling is a way to go if things go down hill. You should look into it maybe it pays better...😜

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Are you just in the mood to play devil's advocate tonight? First the inflammatory "nursing shortage" question, and now this.

You mad at something?

You are watching too many Al Puccino movies.

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You are watching too many Al Puccino movies.

OMG, that's the best drag name ever! Guy that looks like Al Pacino but dresses in Pucci. You can have it OP. Sounds like you need another career option right now anyway.

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Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
What if the coaching and material is flawed? And what if the Professors are incompetent and set you up intentionally for failure just to make a quick buck for the school and take advantage of the poor student? Is that possible? Of course it is!!! If you are responding please make sure you are not affiliated or paid by a school. Thanks.

A high failure rate does not make a quick buck for the school because people look at those stats when choosing a school. Lenders look at the stats before authorizing student loans for a particular institution. Schools are more likely to make a quick buck by dumbing down the material and pushing everyone through. And hope it takes a while for their reputation to catch up to them.

If you're in a school that is run in an unscrupulous way, your best bet is to cut your losses and start applying to reputable schools.

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What if the coaching and material is flawed? And what if the Professors are incompetent and set you up intentionally for failure just to make a quick buck for the school and take advantage of the poor student? Is that possible? Of course it is!!! If you are responding please make sure you are not affiliated or paid by a school. Thanks.

There is a flaw with the logic here. How is a student qualified to judge the quality of the material? Students can certainly distinguish between good and poor instructors and hopefully are receiving the former to get their money's worth. Most of the time I'm happy if an undergraduate student can distinguish between stable or unstable relative to a patient.

Yes-I am paid by a school. No-I do not intentionally spend hours of my time thinking up multiple ways to write "trick questions" and set them up for failure. I need my students at all levels to be their very best at all times because they are the nurses and advanced practice nurses for me and my family. I know this because a family member was expertly cared for this summer by my former NP students after a catastrophic illness and is recovering well .

To the OP-I wish you the best of luck in your school/career going forward.

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Specializes in OMFS, Dentistry.
What if the coaching and material is flawed? And what if the Professors are incompetent and set you up intentionally for failure just to make a quick buck for the school and take advantage of the poor student? Is that possible? Of course it is!!! If you are responding please make sure you are not affiliated or paid by a school. Thanks.

WOW.... I don't even know where to begin with this?!

You get out of it what YOU put into it! There is no benefit to the professor to set you up for failure as that would make their graduation/pass rates decline. If that happens, nobody will want to go to that school and obviously it would eventually get a bad reputation.

Remember one thing, NOBODY takes advantage of the poor student unless they let them. I think that poor student needs to take a look in the mirror, do a little soul searching, and ask themselves what THEY can do better.

Also, please give an example of how coaching/material is flawed...

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Specializes in Inpatient Psychiatry.

And you're getting too much attention for intentionally inflammatory responses. Bye felicia!

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