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Lousy Professor or lousy student?

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Hello everyone,

wanted ask ask the question if it is the students fault or the Professors fault to succeed in nursing school? Who has more responsibility to make sure we have future qualified and quality nurses?

CelticGoddess, BSN, RN

Specializes in Palliative, Onc, Med-Surg, Home Hospice. Has 6 years experience.

Edited because I don't really want to go down this road today.

Edited by CelticGoddess

llg, PhD, RN

Specializes in Nursing Professional Development. Has 44 years experience.

Depends on the particular people and situation. Most of the time, a lack of school success is mainly attributable to poor performance by the student. There are some really bad teachers, of course. But most of the time, when a student has failed, it is because the student has not taken the necessary actions to earn themselves a passing grade.

You pay a school to provide you with a chance -- to present the material, provide some coaching, and evaluate your level of performance. You don't pay them to guarantee your success not matter how little effort you put into it.

meanmaryjean, DNP, RN

Specializes in NICU, ICU, PICU, Academia. Has 44 years experience.

Depends on the particular people and situation. Most of the time, a lack of school success is mainly attributable to poor performance by the student. There are some really bad teachers, of course. But most of the time, when a student has failed, it is because the student has not taken the necessary actions to earn themselves a passing grade.

You pay a school to provide you with a chance -- to present the material, provide some coaching, and evaluate your level of performance. You don't pay them to guarantee your success not matter how little effort you put into it.

Beautifully expressed!

What if the coaching and material is flawed? And what if the Professors are incompetent and set you up intentionally for failure just to make a quick buck for the school and take advantage of the poor student? Is that possible? Of course it is!!! If you are responding please make sure you are not affiliated or paid by a school. Thanks.

What if the coaching and material is flawed? And what if the Professors are incompetent and set you up intentionally for failure just to make a quick buck for the school and take advantage of the poor student? Is that possible? Of course it is!!! If you are responding please make sure you are not affiliated or paid by a school. Thanks.

Of course it's possible. But IMO, it's the exception rather than the rule and I really can't imagine those types of programs staying open for very long.

But even in the case of a "bad" nursing school, some responsibility still lies with the student - how much research did the student do before applying? Did they ask questions and do their due diligence? I know both programs I've applied to inside and out. I spent months researching the programs, teachers, etc before I made the choice which schools to apply to.

meanmaryjean, DNP, RN

Specializes in NICU, ICU, PICU, Academia. Has 44 years experience.

What if the coaching and material is flawed? And what if the Professors are incompetent and set you up intentionally for failure just to make a quick buck for the school and take advantage of the poor student? Is that possible? Of course it is!!! If you are responding please make sure you are not affiliated or paid by a school. Thanks.

I'm guessing you enrolled in a for-profit, shady school and are paying the price now. That is unfortunate, but why are you insistent on poisoning every thread you comment on?

I also need to ask- are you an RN yet? Because if not, it is a violation of the AN TOS to use it in your username.

pixierose, BSN, RN

Specializes in ED, psych. Has 4 years experience.

What if the coaching and material is flawed? And what if the Professors are incompetent and set you up intentionally for failure just to make a quick buck for the school and take advantage of the poor student? Is that possible? Of course it is!!! If you are responding please make sure you are not affiliated or paid by a school. Thanks.

I think instead of a stethoscope, you need a tin foil hat.

Why is everything such a conspiracy with you?

From reading your other posts on this forum, and your inability to answer basic questions regarding yourself, I'm guessing you're an individual who failed out of nursing school ... or is about to.

Did *you* fail or did the whole class fail?

You are affiliated and you show up everywhere. Jesus I was right. Major fake infos you spread .

Don't blame me, George Soros hasn't paid me in months. I had to make ends meet some how.

;)

You are affiliated and you show up everywhere. Jesus I was right. Major fake infos you spread .

It's easier to understand who you're talking to if you use the "quote" button on the bottom right of the post.

pixierose, BSN, RN

Specializes in ED, psych. Has 4 years experience.

You are affiliated and you show up everywhere. Jesus I was right. Major fake infos you spread .

No no no ... I get paid by BIG PHARMA.

(Don't we?)

meanmaryjean, DNP, RN

Specializes in NICU, ICU, PICU, Academia. Has 44 years experience.

Don't blame me, George Soros hasn't paid me in months. I had to make ends meet some how.

;)

Right! Hey, there's always cam modeling if things get really tight.

No no no ... I get paid by BIG PHARMA.

(Don't we?)

Finally, you give in. Pharma, I totally forgot bout them.

HIPAAPotamus, BSN, RN

Specializes in Inpatient Psychiatry. Has 3 years experience.

Are you just in the mood to play devil's advocate tonight? First the inflammatory "nursing shortage" question, and now this.

You mad at something?

Are you just in the mood to play devil's advocate tonight? First the inflammatory "nursing shortage" question, and now this.

You mad at something?

Not really, just advocating for the poor American student who is being taken advantage all the time.

Right! Hey, there's always cam modeling if things get really tight.

Modeling is a way to go if things go down hill. You should look into it maybe it pays better...😜

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