Looking for online RN - BSN with no clinical componet.

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I am looking for a online RN to BSN program that does not have a clinical part to it , does things like this exsist. Thanks

Specializes in ICU, PICC Nurse, Nursing Supervisor.

holy cow, do we have to pay preceptors ? i thought they voluntered their time. they never told me that at isu or deaconess.

txpadequeen is right. i am saying that i will not have to take the cpne. i will not have to take that clinical exam that excelsior and other places make you do. i do however have to have 450 clinical hours with a preceptor. the preceptor is not paid unless i pay them. i have many many rn friends that will gladly help me with the hours. they are volunteering their time but i will repay them somehow. i just like i won't have to take that god awful clincial exam at the end. i have heard many people say that one mistake and they fail and have to pay another 2grand to take it again. anyway good luck angela. please email me when you get your guides perhaps we can do some study together.

jennifer

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Holy cow, do we have to pay preceptors ? I thought they voluntered their time. They never told me that at ISU or deaconess.

I am not paying for my preceptor for Deaconess...the hospital and preceptor are volunteering their time and resources. Everyone wins...I am providing service to the hospital as an extern, the preceptor is improving their resume and chances for increased pay by the hospital, and I am getting my clinical hours in. :)

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Specializes in Child/Adolescent Mental Health.
I am not paying for my preceptor for Deaconess...the hospital and preceptor are volunteering their time and resources. Everyone wins...I am providing service to the hospital as an extern, the preceptor is improving their resume and chances for increased pay by the hospital, and I am getting my clinical hours in. :)

Ditto :)

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Holy cow, do we have to pay preceptors ? I thought they voluntered their time. They never told me that at ISU or deaconess.

DCN preceptors are not paid by the school nor by the student. If a student chooses to thank the preceptor with a gift certificate or other item, the choice is up to them. I found a gift certificate was appropriate in my situation. Hope this helps.

Opal

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I am not paying for my preceptor for Deaconess...the hospital and preceptor are volunteering their time and resources. Everyone wins...I am providing service to the hospital as an extern, the preceptor is improving their resume and chances for increased pay by the hospital, and I am getting my clinical hours in. :)

I sure hope you wouldn't have to pay extra for a preceptor from Deaconess. I checked into that program and they rip you a new one with their tuition. With the debt a person would go into by going through Deaconess (over $20,000 for ASN) they would be better of to quit working and go on welfare while they went to a traditional school. Well over $20,000 for the privledge of studying at home and not having to take the CPNE. A person could take and retake the CPNE an awful lot of times for less than that.

I just didn't see the value.

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Specializes in Child/Adolescent Mental Health.
I sure hope you wouldn't have to pay extra for a preceptor from Deaconess. I checked into that program and they rip you a new one with their tuition. With the debt a person would go into by going through Deaconess (over $20,000 for ASN) they would be better of to quit working and go on welfare while they went to a traditional school. Well over $20,000 for the privledge of studying at home and not having to take the CPNE. A person could take and retake the CPNE an awful lot of times for less than that.

I just didn't see the value.

I agree that the tuition is horrendously expensive but many private schools charge high tuition rates. What is EC charging these days for the CPNE? Also, anybody have info regarding the workshops, i.e., costs and locations?

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I sure hope you wouldn't have to pay extra for a preceptor from Deaconess. I checked into that program and they rip you a new one with their tuition. With the debt a person would go into by going through Deaconess (over $20,000 for ASN) they would be better of to quit working and go on welfare while they went to a traditional school. Well over $20,000 for the privledge of studying at home and not having to take the CPNE. A person could take and retake the CPNE an awful lot of times for less than that.

I just didn't see the value.

Trust me the tuition at DCN haunts me at night sometimes...but in my current situation it does have a value at 20K+...

Here in Orlando I would have to wait 1-2 years to get into an ASN program when Deaconess took me on first application...every year of waiting would be a nursing salary loss of at least 10K a year. Not to mention putting me into my mid 30s before I would finish.

I could have done an evenings and weekends LPN and continued to work but that would have taken 18 months...and I cannot put a price on a year and half of my daughters' lives, as they would have never seen me.

So for now Deaconess has significant value to me...

P.S.: I don't know what welfare is like in other parts of the country but in Orlando, you can't afford to live in the streets on it. :uhoh21: But I won't get into how I know that...

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Trust me the tuition at DCN haunts me at night sometimes...but in my current situation it does have a value at 20K+...

Here in Orlando I would have to wait 1-2 years to get into an ASN program when Deaconess took me on first application...every year of waiting would be a nursing salary loss of at least 10K a year. Not to mention putting me into my mid 30s before I would finish.

I could have done an evenings and weekends LPN and continued to work but that would have taken 18 months...and I cannot put a price on a year and half of my daughters' lives, as they would have never seen me.

So for now Deaconess has significant value to me...

P.S.: I don't know what welfare is like in other parts of the country but in Orlando, you can't afford to live in the streets on it. :uhoh21: But I won't get into how I know that...

I see it this way, for those of us that are new to the Nursing Arena or have no other medical background to qualify for EC and need to get the RN at a distance due to family problems, lack of opportunities at local schools and Geographical problems such as I have Deaconess is a great choice and worth the $20,000.00; I'm in my second semester and would do it all over again. I was was in Nursing School at a private university in Hawaii in 2002 before we moved to Germany and my tuition was $425.00 per credit, so I think that DCN tuition is pretty standard for private schools.

LTNurse

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Trust me the tuition at DCN haunts me at night sometimes...but in my current situation it does have a value at 20K+...

Here in Orlando I would have to wait 1-2 years to get into an ASN program when Deaconess took me on first application...every year of waiting would be a nursing salary loss of at least 10K a year. Not to mention putting me into my mid 30s before I would finish.

I could have done an evenings and weekends LPN and continued to work but that would have taken 18 months...and I cannot put a price on a year and half of my daughters' lives, as they would have never seen me.

So for now Deaconess has significant value to me...

P.S.: I don't know what welfare is like in other parts of the country but in Orlando, you can't afford to live in the streets on it. :uhoh21: But I won't get into how I know that...

But it still isn't making sense...you would qualify for Excelsior (which is much cheaper) and furthermore Deaconess' program is a longer program...and I rounded down to $20,000, it was actually quite a few more thousand than 20K.

I'm sure I'll get ripped another one for saying this but if you are not qualified to get into EC (such as being a nonmedical person) there is probably a *reason*...ergo, it may not be a good idea for someone who has not worked in the medical field as some type of nurse (LPN) to become an RN. In fact, EC has recently discontinued accepting MA's and surgical tech's and CNA's into their nursing program due to complaints regarding competency issues. I'm not beefing up Excelsior as the be-all of distance learning but they do have a respectable track record.

It was hard for me to go to LPN school with two kids and a disabled husband, and it is damn near impossible for me to go to a physical LPN to RN program at this time with three kids, a job and a disabled husband, which is why I am looking into EC. Though, I would not even have felt comfortable at all trying to learn to be an LPN through a distance program, there is just too much you will miss out on, aside from clinicals.

It may not be the same literally but trying to go from nonmedical person to nurse is in a way like going from nonmedical person to surgeon by mail.

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Specializes in Psych, Geriatrics, Oncology.

I am currently attending UOP online and going into my 5th course. I expect to finish November next year. Everything is going well. How do the clinicals work?

I enjoyed my ADN to BSN at University of Phoenix. It is easy, just sign on, answer some questions, write a few papers, voila - you have your BSN. I especially liked the fact that it was so portable. I went to Florida, St. Thomas, Chicago (multiple times) and found it very easy to get my work done while away.
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I'm sure I'll get ripped another one for saying this but if you are not qualified to get into EC (such as being a nonmedical person) there is probably a *reason*...ergo, it may not be a good idea for someone who has not worked in the medical field as some type of nurse (LPN) to become an RN. It may not be the same literally but trying to go from nonmedical person to nurse is in a way like going from nonmedical person to surgeon by mail.

Wait, you may not be understanding the program at DCN. DCN starts at the ground level and works students up to a PN. IE; those who are not LPNs start at the beginning whereas LPNs start at the level they would at EC. DCN students also have mandatory clinical hours (totaling somewhere at 450hours) so I am not sure why you are saying it is literally the same as becoming a surgeon by mail. Furthermore, state boards would not approve programs if they did not meet the stringent requirements.

DCN and EC are both very good schools but are for individuals with very different backgrounds. Some students do not qualify for EC because they are not set up to start with individuals from the ground up.

I agree the cost of DCN is high, higher than any program I researched but for some it is a viable alternative to waiting years to get into on-campus programs.

Opal

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I'm sure I'll get ripped another one for saying this but if you are not qualified to get into EC (such as being a nonmedical person) there is probably a *reason*...ergo, it may not be a good idea for someone who has not worked in the medical field as some type of nurse (LPN) to become an RN. It may not be the same literally but trying to go from nonmedical person to nurse is in a way like going from nonmedical person to surgeon by mail.

Wait, you may not be understanding the program at DCN. DCN starts at the ground level and works students up to a PN. IE; those who are not LPNs start at the beginning whereas LPNs start at the level they would at EC. DCN students also have mandatory clinical hours (totaling somewhere at 450hours) so I am not sure why you are saying it is literally the same as becoming a surgeon by mail. Furthermore, state boards would not approve programs if they did not meet the stringent requirements.

DCN and EC are both very good schools but are for individuals with very different backgrounds. Some students do not qualify for EC because they are not set up to start with individuals from the ground up.

I agree the cost of DCN is high, higher than any program I researched but for some it is a viable alternative to waiting years to get into on-campus programs.

Opal

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