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I am looking for a online RN to BSN program that does not have a clinical part to it , does things like this exsist. Thanks

the thing here that i am not quite understanding is the below comment.

"i'm sure i'll get ripped another one for saying this but if you are

not qualified to get into ec (such as being a nonmedical person) there is

probably a *reason*...ergo, it may not be a good idea for someone who

has not worked in the medical field as some type of nurse (lpn) to

become an rn. in fact, ec has recently discontinued accepting ma's and

surgical tech's and cna's into their nursing program due to complaints

regarding competency issues."

when i went to school i did not go straight for my rn because my lpn schooling was free. all i had to do was pay 500.00 for my books/uniforms. yes i was fortunate to live in a city/county that the school system paid for the education along with the hospital. it is a great plan and more places should think of doing this but alas they won't.

many many many people go from being non medical personnel to rn's everyday. if i had had the money i would have but i did not. as for distance learning alot of the programs are set up for lpn's to go to rn's on a self paced track. that is great. for non medical personnel i am not sure how many programs there are with distance learning but i would think they would teach it just as other colleges to from the ground up but that does not mean they have to be a lpn first. i would encourage most now a days to get their rn instead of their lpn. why? because i have been an lpn for years doing rn jobs for lpn pay and some jobs we are prevented from doing.

ok enough of my opinion. honest not trying to be negative to anyone but we need to realize that people will get discouraged by what we say.

one thing to remember about excelsior two states out of the u.s did not accept their diploma. last i heard it was illinois and i want to say florida. this may have changed over the past year or so but that is the last i read on it. anyone else know? i do know that the collegeework/indianauniersiy is nln accredited for all states. so that is a plus. anyway good luck.

jennifer

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the thing here that i am not quite understanding is the below comment.

"i'm sure i'll get ripped another one for saying this but if you are

not qualified to get into ec (such as being a nonmedical person) there is

probably a *reason*...ergo, it may not be a good idea for someone who

has not worked in the medical field as some type of nurse (lpn) to

become an rn. in fact, ec has recently discontinued accepting ma's and

surgical tech's and cna's into their nursing program due to complaints

regarding competency issues."

when i went to school i did not go straight for my rn because my lpn schooling was free. all i had to do was pay 500.00 for my books/uniforms. yes i was fortunate to live in a city/county that the school system paid for the education along with the hospital. it is a great plan and more places should think of doing this but alas they won't.

many many many people go from being non medical personnel to rn's everyday. if i had had the money i would have but i did not. as for distance learning alot of the programs are set up for lpn's to go to rn's on a self paced track. that is great. for non medical personnel i am not sure how many programs there are with distance learning but i would think they would teach it just as other colleges to from the ground up but that does not mean they have to be a lpn first. i would encourage most now a days to get their rn instead of their lpn. why? because i have been an lpn for years doing rn jobs for lpn pay and some jobs we are prevented from doing.

ok enough of my opinion. honest not trying to be negative to anyone but we need to realize that people will get discouraged by what we say.

one thing to remember about excelsior two states out of the u.s did not accept their diploma. last i heard it was illinois and i want to say florida. this may have changed over the past year or so but that is the last i read on it. anyone else know? i do know that the collegeework/indianauniersiy is nln accredited for all states. so that is a plus. anyway good luck.

jennifer

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holy cow, do we have to pay preceptors ? i thought they voluntered their time. they never told me that at isu or deaconess.[/quote]

sorry for the mixup. i reread my post. what i meant was the college does not pay the preceptors they have to volunteer. if they did not volunteer then i would have to figure out a way to pay them. the college has lists of volunteers and then usually you can go to a hospital and find someone. i just know quite few rns that would e glad to help log my hours. sorry for the confusion. i just meant i would pay back the favor. grins.

jennifer

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holy cow, do we have to pay preceptors ? i thought they voluntered their time. they never told me that at isu or deaconess.[/quote]

sorry for the mixup. i reread my post. what i meant was the college does not pay the preceptors they have to volunteer. if they did not volunteer then i would have to figure out a way to pay them. the college has lists of volunteers and then usually you can go to a hospital and find someone. i just know quite few rns that would e glad to help log my hours. sorry for the confusion. i just meant i would pay back the favor. grins.

jennifer

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But it still isn't making sense...you would qualify for Excelsior (which is much cheaper) and furthermore Deaconess' program is a longer program...and I rounded down to $20,000, it was actually quite a few more thousand than 20K.

I'm sure I'll get ripped another one for saying this but if you are not qualified to get into EC (such as being a nonmedical person) there is probably a *reason*...ergo, it may not be a good idea for someone who has not worked in the medical field as some type of nurse (LPN) to become an RN. In fact, EC has recently discontinued accepting MA's and surgical tech's and CNA's into their nursing program due to complaints regarding competency issues. I'm not beefing up Excelsior as the be-all of distance learning but they do have a respectable track record.

It was hard for me to go to LPN school with two kids and a disabled husband, and it is damn near impossible for me to go to a physical LPN to RN program at this time with three kids, a job and a disabled husband, which is why I am looking into EC. Though, I would not even have felt comfortable at all trying to learn to be an LPN through a distance program, there is just too much you will miss out on, aside from clinicals.

It may not be the same literally but trying to go from nonmedical person to nurse is in a way like going from nonmedical person to surgeon by mail.

I believe you are misinformed concerning the Deaconess ASN program...

I do not qualify to enter the EC program as I am not an LPN. I am also not entering an LPN to RN bridge program as a "nonmedical person". I am entering an ASN program that starts its students from square one, the same as any other nursing program in the country, with the exception that I do not sit in a lecture hall for my classroom time. I sit in front of a computer on a webchat with a professor, sit at my home office reading and studying, or watching video skill demonstrations. The clinical aspect of the program is identical or in some cases better than that of a traditional program.

The reason EC may not be the right avenue for a "nonmedical person", would be the absence of clinical experiences. Unlike EC, Deaconess requires clinical experience and evaluations on a semester by semester basis, the same as any other traditional ASN program. The 1st yr of the DCN program requires 384 clinical hours in rotating areas of nursing and 3 onsite clinical evaluations. The second year requires 216 additional clinical hours and 3 clinical evaluations bring the total clinical hours to 600.

It is true that EC maybe a better choice for you as you are already an LPN, point taken. EC is an excellent avenue of nursing education for many people. But there are some LPNs that are planning further education beyond their ASN or BSN that have decided that EC may not be the best choice for them. There are also some states that do not honor the EC ASN, i.e. California.

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But it still isn't making sense...you would qualify for Excelsior (which is much cheaper) and furthermore Deaconess' program is a longer program...and I rounded down to $20,000, it was actually quite a few more thousand than 20K.

I'm sure I'll get ripped another one for saying this but if you are not qualified to get into EC (such as being a nonmedical person) there is probably a *reason*...ergo, it may not be a good idea for someone who has not worked in the medical field as some type of nurse (LPN) to become an RN. In fact, EC has recently discontinued accepting MA's and surgical tech's and CNA's into their nursing program due to complaints regarding competency issues. I'm not beefing up Excelsior as the be-all of distance learning but they do have a respectable track record.

It was hard for me to go to LPN school with two kids and a disabled husband, and it is damn near impossible for me to go to a physical LPN to RN program at this time with three kids, a job and a disabled husband, which is why I am looking into EC. Though, I would not even have felt comfortable at all trying to learn to be an LPN through a distance program, there is just too much you will miss out on, aside from clinicals.

It may not be the same literally but trying to go from nonmedical person to nurse is in a way like going from nonmedical person to surgeon by mail.

I believe you are misinformed concerning the Deaconess ASN program...

I do not qualify to enter the EC program as I am not an LPN. I am also not entering an LPN to RN bridge program as a "nonmedical person". I am entering an ASN program that starts its students from square one, the same as any other nursing program in the country, with the exception that I do not sit in a lecture hall for my classroom time. I sit in front of a computer on a webchat with a professor, sit at my home office reading and studying, or watching video skill demonstrations. The clinical aspect of the program is identical or in some cases better than that of a traditional program.

The reason EC may not be the right avenue for a "nonmedical person", would be the absence of clinical experiences. Unlike EC, Deaconess requires clinical experience and evaluations on a semester by semester basis, the same as any other traditional ASN program. The 1st yr of the DCN program requires 384 clinical hours in rotating areas of nursing and 3 onsite clinical evaluations. The second year requires 216 additional clinical hours and 3 clinical evaluations bring the total clinical hours to 600.

It is true that EC maybe a better choice for you as you are already an LPN, point taken. EC is an excellent avenue of nursing education for many people. But there are some LPNs that are planning further education beyond their ASN or BSN that have decided that EC may not be the best choice for them. There are also some states that do not honor the EC ASN, i.e. California.

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the thing here that i am not quite understanding is the below comment.

"i'm sure i'll get ripped another one for saying this but if you are

not qualified to get into ec (such as being a nonmedical person) there is

probably a *reason*...ergo, it may not be a good idea for someone who

has not worked in the medical field as some type of nurse (lpn) to

become an rn. in fact, ec has recently discontinued accepting ma's and

surgical tech's and cna's into their nursing program due to complaints

regarding competency issues."

when i went to school i did not go straight for my rn because my lpn schooling was free. all i had to do was pay 500.00 for my books/uniforms. yes i was fortunate to live in a city/county that the school system paid for the education along with the hospital. it is a great plan and more places should think of doing this but alas they won't.

many many many people go from being non medical personnel to rn's everyday. if i had had the money i would have but i did not. as for distance learning alot of the programs are set up for lpn's to go to rn's on a self paced track. that is great. for non medical personnel i am not sure how many programs there are with distance learning but i would think they would teach it just as other colleges to from the ground up but that does not mean they have to be a lpn first. i would encourage most now a days to get their rn instead of their lpn. why? because i have been an lpn for years doing rn jobs for lpn pay and some jobs we are prevented from doing.

ok enough of my opinion. honest not trying to be negative to anyone but we need to realize that people will get discouraged by what we say.

one thing to remember about excelsior two states out of the u.s did not accept their diploma. last i heard it was illinois and i want to say florida. this may have changed over the past year or so but that is the last i read on it. anyone else know? i do know that the collegeework/indianauniersiy is nln accredited for all states. so that is a plus. anyway good luck.

jennifer

i wasn't talking about nonmedical people becoming rn's but nonmedical people learning to be an rn from a book. clinical time is so important. but regarding the clinicals, i take it the preceptor's are your clinical instructors though? that would a rather different story.

that is the thing that bothers me about excelsior, the lack of clinical time. but i just got off the phone with an advisor from ec and she told me that is why california does not accept excelsior asn graduates (issues over the clinicals). i told her i had heard some ec graduates had trouble getting jobs and were not even accepted in some states and asked why. i didn't like the advisor i talked to (she was more the pushy salesperson type than the teacher type) and she kept assuring me ec had been in business 33 yrs. and she wanted to know where i was getting my information from (i told her allnurses.com) and that they have over 27,000 students, blah blah blah...anyway, that is the reason surgical tech's and ma's are no longer accepted, it all has to do with the clinical aspect. maybe ec will start to lengthen their clinicals. anyway, i do'nt feel i am going the best route by going through distance learning and i don't think the distance learning route is the best way for most people to go, yet again, not everyone has the opportunity to sit in a class or physically go to clinicals all week.

so we make due with what we have. i still can't believe there is not a better way to go than getting in debt over $20,000...no amount of money a person will make as an rn will make paying that kind of loan off easy. and so what if it is a "private" school? what's the glory in that?

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the thing here that i am not quite understanding is the below comment.

"i'm sure i'll get ripped another one for saying this but if you are

not qualified to get into ec (such as being a nonmedical person) there is

probably a *reason*...ergo, it may not be a good idea for someone who

has not worked in the medical field as some type of nurse (lpn) to

become an rn. in fact, ec has recently discontinued accepting ma's and

surgical tech's and cna's into their nursing program due to complaints

regarding competency issues."

when i went to school i did not go straight for my rn because my lpn schooling was free. all i had to do was pay 500.00 for my books/uniforms. yes i was fortunate to live in a city/county that the school system paid for the education along with the hospital. it is a great plan and more places should think of doing this but alas they won't.

many many many people go from being non medical personnel to rn's everyday. if i had had the money i would have but i did not. as for distance learning alot of the programs are set up for lpn's to go to rn's on a self paced track. that is great. for non medical personnel i am not sure how many programs there are with distance learning but i would think they would teach it just as other colleges to from the ground up but that does not mean they have to be a lpn first. i would encourage most now a days to get their rn instead of their lpn. why? because i have been an lpn for years doing rn jobs for lpn pay and some jobs we are prevented from doing.

ok enough of my opinion. honest not trying to be negative to anyone but we need to realize that people will get discouraged by what we say.

one thing to remember about excelsior two states out of the u.s did not accept their diploma. last i heard it was illinois and i want to say florida. this may have changed over the past year or so but that is the last i read on it. anyone else know? i do know that the collegeework/indianauniersiy is nln accredited for all states. so that is a plus. anyway good luck.

jennifer

i wasn't talking about nonmedical people becoming rn's but nonmedical people learning to be an rn from a book. clinical time is so important. but regarding the clinicals, i take it the preceptor's are your clinical instructors though? that would a rather different story.

that is the thing that bothers me about excelsior, the lack of clinical time. but i just got off the phone with an advisor from ec and she told me that is why california does not accept excelsior asn graduates (issues over the clinicals). i told her i had heard some ec graduates had trouble getting jobs and were not even accepted in some states and asked why. i didn't like the advisor i talked to (she was more the pushy salesperson type than the teacher type) and she kept assuring me ec had been in business 33 yrs. and she wanted to know where i was getting my information from (i told her allnurses.com) and that they have over 27,000 students, blah blah blah...anyway, that is the reason surgical tech's and ma's are no longer accepted, it all has to do with the clinical aspect. maybe ec will start to lengthen their clinicals. anyway, i do'nt feel i am going the best route by going through distance learning and i don't think the distance learning route is the best way for most people to go, yet again, not everyone has the opportunity to sit in a class or physically go to clinicals all week.

so we make due with what we have. i still can't believe there is not a better way to go than getting in debt over $20,000...no amount of money a person will make as an rn will make paying that kind of loan off easy. and so what if it is a "private" school? what's the glory in that?

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I wasn't talking about nonmedical people becoming RN's but nonmedical people learning to be an RN from a book. Clinical time is so important. But regarding the clinicals, I take it the preceptor's are your clinical instructors though? That would a rather different story.

That is the thing that bothers me about Excelsior, the lack of clinical time. But I just got off the phone with an advisor from EC and she told me that is why California does not accept Excelsior ASN graduates (issues over the clinicals). I told her I had heard some EC graduates had trouble getting jobs and were not even accepted in some states and asked why. I didn't like the advisor I talked to (she was more the pushy salesperson type than the teacher type) and she kept assuring me EC had been in business 33 yrs. and she wanted to know where I was getting my information from (I told her allnurses.com) and that they have over 27,000 students, blah blah blah...anyway, that is the reason surgical tech's and MA's are no longer accepted, it all has to do with the clinical aspect. Maybe EC will start to lengthen their clinicals. Anyway, I do'nt feel I am going the best route by going through distance learning and I don't think the distance learning route is the best way for most people to go, yet again, not everyone has the opportunity to sit in a class or physically go to clinicals all week.

So we make due with what we have. I still can't believe there is not a better way to go than getting in debt over $20,000...no amount of money a person will make as an RN will make paying that kind of loan off easy. And so what if it is a "private" school? What's the glory in that?

Seems to me that you are looking for an argument. It's kinda funny that your not getting one isn't it? :rotfl:

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I wasn't talking about nonmedical people becoming RN's but nonmedical people learning to be an RN from a book. Clinical time is so important. But regarding the clinicals, I take it the preceptor's are your clinical instructors though? That would a rather different story.

That is the thing that bothers me about Excelsior, the lack of clinical time. But I just got off the phone with an advisor from EC and she told me that is why California does not accept Excelsior ASN graduates (issues over the clinicals). I told her I had heard some EC graduates had trouble getting jobs and were not even accepted in some states and asked why. I didn't like the advisor I talked to (she was more the pushy salesperson type than the teacher type) and she kept assuring me EC had been in business 33 yrs. and she wanted to know where I was getting my information from (I told her allnurses.com) and that they have over 27,000 students, blah blah blah...anyway, that is the reason surgical tech's and MA's are no longer accepted, it all has to do with the clinical aspect. Maybe EC will start to lengthen their clinicals. Anyway, I do'nt feel I am going the best route by going through distance learning and I don't think the distance learning route is the best way for most people to go, yet again, not everyone has the opportunity to sit in a class or physically go to clinicals all week.

So we make due with what we have. I still can't believe there is not a better way to go than getting in debt over $20,000...no amount of money a person will make as an RN will make paying that kind of loan off easy. And so what if it is a "private" school? What's the glory in that?

Seems to me that you are looking for an argument. It's kinda funny that your not getting one isn't it? :rotfl:

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Seems to me that you are looking for an argument. It's kinda funny that your not getting one isn't it? :rotfl:

Mona,

You were reading my mind... :rotfl:

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Seems to me that you are looking for an argument. It's kinda funny that your not getting one isn't it? :rotfl:

Mona,

You were reading my mind... :rotfl:

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