kicked out of school- failed professionalism!

vickynurse · Apr 14, 2006

you may be able to sit the exam in california

m_lanham · Apr 14, 2006

Do you have a link that I can find out more about taking the test in CA?

Lisa CCU RN, RN · Apr 14, 2006

I don't understand, exactly what did you get kicked out for? They don't just do it for no good reason, especially at two different schools.

WVUturtle514 · Apr 14, 2006

I don't understsand, exactly what di dyou get kicked out for? They don't just do it for no good reason, especially at two different schools.

I was thinking the same thing.....I think we need more information here....like the above poster said, schools don't just kick you out for no reason....

zaggar · Apr 14, 2006

You really have to tell us what you were really kicked out for in order for anyone to really tell you if you can really take the test.

Really.

rn/writer, RN · Apr 14, 2006

I'm sure you're feeling demoralized right now, but don't throw in the towel just yet. It would help to know more about what happened to you.

Were you kicked out, as in invited to leave on bad terms? Did you fail in the classroom? In clinicals?

Look at the two experiences. What, if anything, do they have in common?

What kind of feedback did you receive, both from instructors and from fellow students?

Were either of these LPN to RN bridge programs? Have you worked as an LPN? What are your other degrees in?

There may be some things you can do. Challenging the NCLEX is not one of them, I'm afraid. You can't take the test without having graduated from an accredited school of nursing.

What you might consider doing is working as an LPN and taking correspondence courses to complete your RN. With all the course work you've already done, you should have a big leg up on the expectations.

I'm sorry you've had such a hard time. Please tell us more about what happened and we may be able to encourage you further.

Take care,

leslie :-D · Apr 14, 2006

whatever the specific charges are, why kick you out when you were so close to graduating? what behaviors were both schools citing, that weren't apparent in the beginning or mid nsg school? if you feel it was unjust, is it worth disputing?

leslie

m_lanham · Apr 14, 2006

I was just failed from a community college in Washington for questioning nurses while I was in clinicals. I was not even given the opportunity to explain what I was questioning. At the beginning of the meeting I was told I could grieve the failure, but I had already tried that at another school and I knew that the grieving process means that I was already doomed.

I questioned a nurse who was hanging a bag of lipids that had Vit K in it. There was no vit K on the MAR. I was not blaming the nurse for anything. I was just trying to understand if it was ok to hang. We called the doc and he said go ahead.

The other nurse I questioned was cutting a piece of foam for a wound vac. She was cutting it too small and I told her to stop so that she could look at the wound again before cutting. You know measure twice, cut once. She was an old LPN with 34 years on the floor, she did not like me telling her to stop. I only told her to stop to avoid ruining the dressing. She went ahead and cut it, ruined it and had to get another wound vac kit to do it over. I was not rude, but she was evidently sensitive.

I am sure if my instuctors had given me the opportunity to tell my side of the story they would have understood that I was trying to perform good nursing.

Similar stuff happened at the other school. I went to the zoo with some disabled clients without permittion; thereby, putting the school at "risk" for a law suit. I was with the other professional staff. I was not incharge. Yet, I was written up for this.

None of my sins put patients in danger. If you can call my infractions professionalism failures at all, they are surely not worthy of failure.:angryfire

buddiage · Apr 14, 2006

A community college in Washington? Do you dare say which ones?

I just moved from Washington state down here to Missouri. One of the reasons why I was happy was because I felt I had a chance here. I had heard SPSCC ground students up to put in food- that's how "unfriendly" I heard it was. My friend just washed out of the LPN program- she said the instructors have no desire to help you. I know nursing school is hard anywhere, but even the prereqs, job shadowing, and GPA were getting out of control. Last I checked, it looked as if the schools had to "lower their standards" because someone must've said something!

grannynurse FNP student · Apr 14, 2006

I was just failed from a community college in Washington for questioning nurses while I was in clinicals. I was not even given the opportunity to explain what I was questioning. At the beginning of the meeting I was told I could grieve the failure, but I had already tried that at another school and I knew that the grieving process means that I was already doomed.
I questioned a nurse who was hanging a bag of lipids that had Vit K in it. There was no vit K on the MAR. I was not blaming the nurse for anything. I was just trying to understand if it was ok to hang. We called the doc and he said go ahead.
The other nurse I questioned was cutting a piece of foam for a wound vac. She was cutting it too small and I told her to stop so that she could look at the wound again before cutting. You know measure twice, cut once. She was an old LPN with 34 years on the floor, she did not like me telling her to stop. I only told her to stop to avoid ruining the dressing. She went ahead and cut it, ruined it and had to get another wound vac kit to do it over. I was not rude, but she was evidently sensitive.
I am sure if my instuctors had given me the opportunity to tell my side of the story they would have understood that I was trying to perform good nursing.
Similar stuff happened at the other school. I went to the zoo with some disabled clients without permittion; thereby, putting the school at "risk" for a law suit. I was with the other professional staff. I was not incharge. Yet, I was written up for this.
None of my sins put patients in danger. If you can call my infractions professionalism failures at all, they are surely not worthy of failure.:angryfire

You may hold graduate degrees in other field but you are still a student. The two nurses you questioned, am I wrong in assuming that are graduate nurses, licensed in your state? Sorry but as I have said, you are a student. The bag of lipids with the Vit K, is it usually added to the lipid solution? Do you know the answer to this question? If it is usually considered a portion of the typical order, an order is not necessary. As for your accompanying disabled clients without premission (the program's I am assuming) is consider a major violation of any program. And your program and college could have been named in a suit, had anything happen. You were just lucky nothing did.

I suspect you have been counsel regarding over stepping your boundaries as a student. You are not a licensed nurse. You are a student and are expected to act as one. You may be a fifty plus gentleman put you are a newbie as a student. You will never be successful in a program with the take you have on your role, IMHO.

Grannynurse:balloons:

Tweety, BSN, RN · Apr 14, 2006

If those events happened as described, it doesn't make sense to me that you were kicked out. Except I agree you were wrong to go to the Zoo, but to be kicked out seems extreme.

Anyway, good luck in whatever happens.

In most states in order to take NCLEX-RN you have to be a graduate.

If nothing else perhaps there's a good LPN to RN program you can get into and receive credit work work already done and not have to start entirely over. But you have to take a deep, close, honest look at yourself and the reasons you were kicked out. To say two schools kicked you out for no good reasons doesn't ring true, sorry, not to put you on the defensive or say I don't believe you, but there's the side of the institutions and your history with them up to that piont - both of them - that I'm not having the benefit of hearing.