Just failed Nursing 307 Fundamentals Clinical, need guidance

mrsboots87 · Nov 8, 2013

It sounds like a break will be good for you. Since I wasn't there when you were with the psych service, I cant really say if it had to do with that. It is not always easy see what outsiders see when it comes to your tone and word choice. You may have said some things that made them feel you could potentially be a danger. Just because you are not violent now, doesn't mean something couldn't trigger you acting on those feelings. I'm not saying you would, but the person you worked with might have felt that you could. You could have unintentionally sounded threatening. Anyway, the failure sounds like it was likely due to your admitted poor performance. Your poor performance was due to the stress from the psych eval and holding an the aftermath of that. So in a roundabout way, the psych department situation was a contributing factor, however it was not the cause.

A break would give you time to clear your head. Forget about the guy who angers you, and think about things and how to cope with your feelings better. You did the right thing with trying to seek help, but it still sounds like you could use a break then return later. Also keep in mind you are going to get a variety of patients and some may make you feel this way frequently. You need to learn to handle the stress and the thoughts you have about them.

If nursing is what you want, then I don't think you should find another career. You just need to get some rest and some help before you continue.

Also the fact that you blew up in the disciplinary meeting probably didn't help.

minniebrown · Nov 8, 2013

You stated that you had violent thoughts toward a classmate, which they had to follow through with to protect your classmate. You then stated that you lost it and yelled at someone. You are exhibiting violent and aggressive behavior which is unacceptable pretty much everywhere. Who knows why you failed. But the break sounds much needed. Maybe you should seek therapy and counsel. Just a bit of advice, some people believe that you reap what you sow. You have sown confusion and now you have reaped the consequences. Best of luck with however it turns out.

Kuriin, BSN, RN · Nov 8, 2013

He stated that he sometimes has violent thoughts, not specifically directed towards anyone.

And regarding your comment about nurse practitioners being more "holistic"...where did you come up with that idea?

babsy28 · Nov 9, 2013

"I want to become a nurse practitioner because they are more holistic, so in a way nursing is just a stepping stone."

Nursing is not the "stepping stone" of nurse practitioner, it is the core foundation of it. You will not be able to just toss away nursing foundation if you became an NP.

It sounds like you need a break and honestly should reconsider becoming a nurse. You will be under stress everyday. If nursing school is to stressful you may not be capable of holding it together to be successful in nursing.

springchick1, ADN, RN · Nov 9, 2013

You left clinicals to study for a test and now are surprised you failed clinicals? You weren't here to do the required skills, assessment, etc. I would haver failed too. Clinicals is part of NS and if you don't meet the requirements you fail.

PurpleLover · Nov 10, 2013

Wow

Apply for a break, you need it. You are slowly losing it. I hope the break is what you need and you come back better than ever.

OCNRN63, RN · Nov 10, 2013

I suffer from mild depression and sometimes I get violent thoughts though I am not a violent person. A guy in my class is very entitled and makes rude comments at people during class. My friend who is the nicest person was complaining about him which would just aggrivate me more. I decide to go to Psychological services at my school and seek help.
After telling them the situation, long story short they 302 me and notify the guy who I didn't like that he is possible under threat. Police arrive at my apartment, put me in handcuffs, and drive me to a crisis center. Im locked in a room for 3.5 hours. They question me several times. I'm very articulate and I explain everything well. The doctor passes me with flying colors.
Next day I get sent to disciplinary office, where they tell me if I do anything I will be kicked out. I lost it at this point because I did everything right up until that point. I passed evaluation and all I had was a thought of doing something violent. But I did nothing. I started yelling at him.
So fast forward this whole situation I'm under extreme stress. I have to deal with the rumors spreading. The director of nursing program heard about the situation and started to freak out. I couldn't sleep at night. Only got 2-4 hours of sleep. I basically couldn't study and got 1 week behind. I started screwing up at clinical (which I was doing well in previously.) They give me extra assignments to do for remediation. This past Sunday during clinical I talk to my clinical instructor and decided to leave so that I could study for my exam this past Tuesday. At this point I'm already burnt out doing all the remediation assignments, studying for the exam which I probably did well in.
Now they fail me for my clinical rotation so I fail the course.
They said I could appeal the grade but it will not be likely that the appeal would succeed. They told me I might need a break, or maybe think about switching careers. I come from a holistic background. I highly disagree with the surgeries being done. I want to become a nurse practitioner because they are more holistic, so in a way nursing is just a stepping stone.
I'm not sure. Is my failure due to me not really wanting to be a nurse? Or maybe it has to do with the situation with the psychological services department.

I think you have some serious issues to work out before you try to go back to school. Perhaps nursing isn't the field for you; if you have issues with patients having surgery you're going to be limited. NPs don't just "lay hands" on their patients.

Fix yourself before you try to fix others.

DatMurse · Nov 10, 2013

I suffer from mild depression and sometimes I get violent thoughts though I am not a violent person. A guy in my class is very entitled and makes rude comments at people during class. My friend who is the nicest person was complaining about him which would just aggrivate me more. I decide to go to Psychological services at my school and seek help.
After telling them the situation, long story short they 302 me and notify the guy who I didn't like that he is possible under threat. Police arrive at my apartment, put me in handcuffs, and drive me to a crisis center. Im locked in a room for 3.5 hours. They question me several times. I'm very articulate and I explain everything well. The doctor passes me with flying colors.
Next day I get sent to disciplinary office, where they tell me if I do anything I will be kicked out. I lost it at this point because I did everything right up until that point. I passed evaluation and all I had was a thought of doing something violent. But I did nothing. I started yelling at him.
So fast forward this whole situation I'm under extreme stress. I have to deal with the rumors spreading. The director of nursing program heard about the situation and started to freak out. I couldn't sleep at night. Only got 2-4 hours of sleep. I basically couldn't study and got 1 week behind. I started screwing up at clinical (which I was doing well in previously.) They give me extra assignments to do for remediation. This past Sunday during clinical I talk to my clinical instructor and decided to leave so that I could study for my exam this past Tuesday. At this point I'm already burnt out doing all the remediation assignments, studying for the exam which I probably did well in.
Now they fail me for my clinical rotation so I fail the course.
They said I could appeal the grade but it will not be likely that the appeal would succeed. They told me I might need a break, or maybe think about switching careers. I come from a holistic background. I highly disagree with the surgeries being done. I want to become a nurse practitioner because they are more holistic, so in a way nursing is just a stepping stone.
I'm not sure. Is my failure due to me not really wanting to be a nurse? Or maybe it has to do with the situation with the psychological services department.

No offense but

1. It seems that you may have said you would harm the guy.

2. You seem to disagree with surgeries being done.... Sometimes you need to have surgery and there is no other intervention possible.

3. You have a misunderstanding about how NPs are hollistic. All nurses are hollistic.

I think you have alot of self discovery you need to experience before you enter back into nursing school. You already have this preconceived belief about the medical field. You seems to also have problems with your personal coping mechanisms

akulahawkRN, ADN, RN, EMT-P · Nov 10, 2013

I think I'm going to have to agree with many of the others here. It sounds like you need to take a break from all that is stressing you. I understand that nursing school is very stressful, I'm knee deep in stress as it is now. However, I don't let the stress become overwhelming, as it appears you have. Look at it from the outside. Your school admin is looking at a person who admitted to having violent thoughts, sought help from someone who then put you on a psych hold (from what it sounds like), passed the psych eval, blows back the hair of someone who advised that student about their situation, starts doing poorly in class for a week, then bails out from clinical early. Of course they're going to fail you from your clinical component.

Nursing is very holistic. Nursing looks at the whole person, not just the medical stuff. I'm not saying that nursing and NP is not for you... rather you need to take a look at what's going on in your life/situation that is causing you that much stress and see what you can do to limit it's impact on you and others. I wish you all the best when you're allowed to re-enroll in your program and repeat the course. You might find it actually very refreshing to get a second bite at the apple, so to speak.

ThePhilster · Nov 10, 2013

Right now I am talking with my therapist and researching some intensive therapeutic programs. Maybe something inpatient. I need to get my issues resolved before even attempting to become any type of professional. Whether it be a nurse, I don't know but that is not important at the moment.

LadyFree28, BSN, LPN, RN · Nov 10, 2013

No offense but
1. It seems that you may have said you would harm the guy.
2. You seem to disagree with surgeries being done.... Sometimes you need to have surgery and there is no other intervention possible.
***** 3. You have a misunderstanding about how NPs are hollistic. All nurses are hollistic.*****
****I think you have alot of self discovery you need to experience before you enter back into nursing school. You already have this preconceived belief about the medical field.****
*****You seems to also have problems with your personal coping mechanisms*****

THIS.

I am concerned about your thoughts of being "violent"; I suggest that you see a licensed professional and seek counseling and other options in handling those thoughts; it doesn't do you any good in having thoughts as this for your own well-being; as you have seen the actions of what happened; having violent thought is not normal and is a huge red flag; for you, walking around with those thoughts is not healthy in the holistic sense.

I agree with other posters where you need to work on YOU FIRST before you think about re-entering school; one of the basic components of nursing is holistic care; when entering the health care field, the most ethical and competent way of providing care is for personal beliefs are withheld for the sake of our patients; it's what is best for the patient WITHIN reason, and that takes having a HOLISTIC, LOGICAL view on what's at hand, and that starts in nursing school-it's fundamentals of nursing.

Take a step back, breathe, and work on you.

Best wishes.