Johns Hopkins Entry into Nursing (MSN) Fall 2021

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Hi Everyone,

I wanted to start a thread for the Johns Hopkins Entry into Nursing MSN program for August 2021 applicants. I started my application this week, aiming to get it in well before the November 1st deadline . Anyone else??

34 minutes ago, earthbender said:

I was just admitted into Columbia off the waitlist yesterday (wild). Now I'm deciding between Columbia and JHU. Anyone else in this boat?

Also, fun fact, these are the only two schools I was admitted to LOL. I got outright rejected from OHSU Ashland ABSN, Norwich ABSN, Northeastern, UW ABSN, and waitlisted for Pacific Lutheran, Regis Loretto, and another one that I can't remember. This process is absolutely insane.

By the way, Columbia's program is 4 semester-long (a little over a year with 2 Summers) and JHSON's program is 5 semester long (2 years with 1 Summer). The last semester at JHSON is basically for you to spend time for your practicum, find jobs, and prepare for interviews. 

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1 hour ago, amanda12 said:

Hihi! I was admitted to Penn off the waitlist about a week ago, so now I'm deciding between there and JHU! I'm almost certain I'll choose Penn, however, because the program aligns better with my career goals. I definitely want to be an NP and I was accepted to Penn's BSN-MSN, meaning I don't have to reapply to a school once I'm ready to get my NP specialty. That's really the main difference between Penn and JHU for me. Also location- I'm so unfamiliar with Baltimore, but Philly is really close to NJ, I just feel way more comfortable with the thought of living there.

And I agree with you- the admissions process for nursing school is balls-to-the-wall! I was first accepted at JHU (and I was really surprised, but considering it's ranked as the #1 MSN school, I assumed I'd get in everywhere else) then I was accepted at Northeastern. I was then waitlisted at every other school: Penn, Columbia, and Duke. It's just weird, but I appreciate that JHU seems to be looking for a diverse cohort rather than just an insanely smart cohort (because I really did not have the best grades in undergrad ?)

@amanda12 YAY CONGRATS! see you at Penn! 

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2 hours ago, letsbringhealth said:

earthbender, I also would recommend you join the "Past,Present,Future JHU" webpage on facebook. They have previous topics related to this, and it may help you to look at points that people have considered in the past... I have a feeling this very own topic of Columbia vs JHU may have been already discussed there. Once you are in, just find the "search" box on the page.


JHU Masters Entry into Nursing Program -Past, Present, and Future Cohorts | facebook

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1018926434876106

@letsbringhealth I've requested at least a few times to be let in into this group and my request was denied. I believe a current member has to let me in. Also, I messaged 2 out of 4 admins and no one has responded. Thank you!

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1 minute ago, viking14 said:

@letsbringhealth I've requested at least a few times to be let in into this group and my request was denied. I believe a current member has to let me in. Also, I messaged 2 out of 4 admins and no one has responded. Thank you!

I am not an adm and do not know who the adm are.  I tried to see how to invite someone by just being a member and saw that I can invite my facebook friends but "Your friends will require admin or moderator approval before being added to the group." So, even if I added you, the moderator or adm has to approve it... 
Did they explain why they rejected the request?

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2 minutes ago, letsbringhealth said:

I am not an adm and do not know who the adm are.  I tried to see how to invite someone by just being a member and saw that I can invite my facebook friends but "Your friends will require admin or moderator approval before being added to the group." So, even if I added you, the moderator or adm has to approve it... 
Did they explain why they rejected the request?

No there was not any explanation. Thank you for your help.

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21 minutes ago, viking14 said:

No there was not any explanation. Thank you for your help.

@letsbringhealth My request was approved just now by the 3rd admin. Thank you!

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3 hours ago, magicpandora said:

Hi, 5th semester MSN Entry into Nursing student here. I share a similar background with you. I did not have any healthcare-related experience prior to entering the program. I find that JHSON's program has given me ample time to gain the amount of experience, knowledge, and skills needed to succeed after graduation. The JHH is right next door to the SON. You can take advantage of the nurse extern program at JHH to gain real-life healthcare experience after finishing the first semester. So by the time you graduate, you will have a year and a half of healthcare experience as Nurse Extern. RN interviews focus way more on patient care experience than what school you go to or what grades you get. 

Oh wow this is great to hear! I have been working as a CNA for almost two years now and would love to continue working during school to make a little spending money haha. What are your job duties in this role and do you feel like its manageable to work one 12 hour shift a week during school? Also if you don't mind me asking, what is the pay?

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13 minutes ago, nutritionandnursing said:

Oh wow this is great to hear! I have been working as a CNA for almost two years now and would love to continue working during school to make a little spending money haha. What are your job duties in this role and do you feel like its manageable to work one 12 hour shift a week during school? Also if you don't mind me asking, what is the pay?

To me, it's manageable. I do one 10 hr shift per week and I can pick which day I can work to fit my schedule. The pay at Hopkins is $15/hr. I know at other nearby hospitals such as MedStar ones, it's $17/hr. 

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14 hours ago, magicpandora said:

Hi, 5th semester MSN Entry into Nursing student here. I share a similar background with you. I did not have any healthcare-related experience prior to entering the program. I find that JHSON's program has given me ample time to gain the amount of experience, knowledge, and skills needed to succeed after graduation. The JHH is right next door to the SON. You can take advantage of the nurse extern program at JHH to gain real-life healthcare experience after finishing the first semester. So by the time you graduate, you will have a year and a half of healthcare experience as Nurse Extern. RN interviews focus way more on patient care experience than what school you go to or what grades you get. 

I was wondering if you have any advice for my situation from your perspective - I have 3 years of non-nursing medical experience and am choosing between ABSN programs far from home (CA) and this program. I think I would like to do policy/research for community health or mental health one day, and probably as a practitioner, so I'm 99% sure I want a graduate degree in nursing at some point, but I have never experienced these fields as a nurse. I'm deciding between $100k more of debt to do this program now, or much less debt to do an ABSN and then add on the degree that I find is a fit for me later, even possibly jumping to entry-DNP (thus saving $100k of expense) once I'm more sure of exactly what I want to do. Would you just start with the MSN or play it slower and cheaper with the ABSN? 

Thank you for any advice! Highly appreciated.

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5 hours ago, capncrunch said:

I was wondering if you have any advice for my situation from your perspective - I have 3 years of non-nursing medical experience and am choosing between ABSN programs far from home (CA) and this program. I think I would like to do policy/research for community health or mental health one day, and probably as a practitioner, so I'm 99% sure I want a graduate degree in nursing at some point, but I have never experienced these fields as a nurse. I'm deciding between $100k more of debt to do this program now, or much less debt to do an ABSN and then add on the degree that I find is a fit for me later, even possibly jumping to entry-DNP (thus saving $100k of expense) once I'm more sure of exactly what I want to do. Would you just start with the MSN or play it slower and cheaper with the ABSN? 

Thank you for any advice! Highly appreciated.

Hi, I’d say absolutely going for ABSN then do a BSN-DNP in the future after gaining some bedside experience even just for one year. This way, it saves money and time for you and it’s what I would have done if it’s my case. It’s actually the same amount of time or even less: ABSN 1year + DNP 4 years vs. MSN 2years + DNP 4 years. 

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5 hours ago, magicpandora said:

Hi, I’d say absolutely going for ABSN then do a BSN-DNP in the future after gaining some bedside experience even just for one year. This way, it saves money and time for you and it’s what I would have done if it’s my case. It’s actually the same amount of time or even less: ABSN 1year + DNP 4 years vs. MSN 2years + DNP 4 years. 

That's what I've been thinking, and on top of less time, it's probably half as much debt, as sad as it is to miss an opportunity with Hopkins. Although it looks like their DNP program also has a 50% acceptance rate, so there's hope if it's something I want later! 

Thank you SO much for your perspective!

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I mostly agree with magicpandora. I had heard a similar thought from nurses before I decided to join JHU MSN entry...  If money is a factor, like you said, $100k of additional debt to attend JHU, then it may be worthy going to the least expensive route. Especially if you are intending to go back to school later - You could always do a DNP at Hopkins later on? The pros of JHU is the amazing community of students, access to the hospital, and the "nicety of the reputation of the school" that could be helpful if you ever saw yourself wanting to go become a nursing executive or a Professor. --> is that upfront $100k + in additional debt worth it? depends on the individual goals and comfort level. But you can achieve those things (becoming a nurse executive or a Professor) too by hard working and connecting with peers and other amazing communities elsewhere too! 
 

In summary, I think at the end of the day a nursing degree is a nursing degree (sure, you want to choose credentialed, accredited nursing institutions, always!)

Best of luck ?

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