Is it true that a BSN will be mandatory soon?

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An instructor of mine (I'm in another state) stated that she recently went to a national educators conference and that they were saying that within the next several years in NY it would be mandatory to have your BSN. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
You will still have to take prerequisites on top of your ADN to get into grad school...did you think you could just schlep those off?

*** "Schlep" them off? I am well aware that there are classes that are required between the ADN and the MSN. I already pointed this out. This discussion has not been about pre-reqs or additional classes, it has been about the BSN degree. I have not suggested there there would be no additional classes for the ADN to MSN programs.

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*** I guess I don't understand what you found funny when the bridge classes where not mentioned in the message? How can you think its funny if you don't know what it is? Where do you get the 6 years & $40K from?

You're right, these are just the classes needed to APPLY for the bridge program (you still have to be a RN). The other classes that are required would cost more like $80,000, so it's not a deal at all! However, if you're a BSN, that cost is reduced to about $35,000 a year. Still a lot of money in my book. In this instance, a BSN really matters!

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*** I guess I don't understand what you found funny when the bridge classes where not mentioned in the message? How can you think its funny if you don't know what it is? Where do you get the 6 years & $40K from?

I made up those numbers, obviously. It was a reaction to the long list of classes. 78 credit hours at $900.00 per credit at Vanderbilt, according to ANPFNPGNP's post would actually cost $70,200. The number of years would be variable. My point was that the bridge program does not sound like a great deal.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
I made up those numbers, obviously. It was a reaction to the long list of classes. 78 credit hours at $900.00 per credit at Vanderbilt, according to ANPFNPGNP's post would actually cost $70,200. The number of years would be variable. My point was that the bridge program does not sound like a great deal.

*** Where in the heck do you get this 78 credit for the bridge program? As I already mentioned nobody has posted Vanderbilt's bridge program in this discussion. While no program at Vanderbilt sounds like a good deal to me, their bridge program consists of 26 credits and would cost $23,400. This is posted right on their website. Why are you claiming $70,200 and claiming 78 credits when their bridge program is 26 credits?

Vanderbilt is one of many schools that offer RN to MSN with no BSN involved. The number of credits in the bridge programs vary from 12 to 26 depending on the school.

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I feel like saying what my brother used to say, "Can't we all just get along?" This is simple misunderstanding. Vanderbilt's MSN program for ADN-prepared nurses requries 78 credits of prerequistes; these can be taken elsewhere, not at Vanderbilt's price. They ALSO require 26 credits of bridge classes that are taken there, at their price.

All in all, there are non-nursing credits that must be taken before beginning their MSN courses (factor in approx 50-60 nursing credits, and that's more than a BSN). But anyway, both 78 and 26 are credit requirements -- one is just prereqs and the other bridge credits.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
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*** You are confused. Please see post 1063 for an explanation.

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Well, if a person has all of their prereqs then they would only need 26 credits to bridge right? Otherwise, it's more.

Are you working towards your grad degree? BSN?

Are you angry? Maybe I'm misreading your tone. You seem conflicted about higher education and have a chip on your shoulder. Why?

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I think everybody is getting themselves into a frenzied state. Why do you want to get a BSN, MSN, or PhD when RNs are in the drivers seat? Nurses are in high high demand and medical facilities need warm bodies. We call the shots now. What is all this talk about getting your BSN and even your R.N. LPNs are also doing quite well. Don't believe hospitals when they put the pressure on you. Since when did hospitals ever level with you?

I think all this pressure to make you get your BSN and more is a bunch of hogwash. The country is in a medical crisis and the future for employment for nurses of any kind is at its highest. Don't be pressured to go back to school unless.........YOU WANT TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I think everybody is getting themselves into a frenzied state. Why do you want to get a BSN, MSN, or PhD when RNs are in the drivers seat? Nurses are in high high demand and medical facilities need warm bodies. We call the shots now. What is all this talk about getting your BSN and even your R.N. LPNs are also doing quite well. Don't believe hospitals when they put the pressure on you. Since when did hospitals ever level with you?

I think all this pressure to make you get your BSN and more is a bunch of hogwash. The country is in a medical crisis and the future for employment for nurses of any kind is at its highest. Don't be pressured to go back to school unless.........YOU WANT TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:banghead: :smackingf :banghead:

Don't pursue higher education to advance yourself in the profession or to help elevate nursing as a profession because licensed nurses with a pulse are currently in demand in some areas of the country???

Oh my.

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I think everybody is getting themselves into a frenzied state. Why do you want to get a BSN, MSN, or PhD when RNs are in the drivers seat? Nurses are in high high demand and medical facilities need warm bodies. We call the shots now. What is all this talk about getting your BSN and even your R.N. LPNs are also doing quite well. Don't believe hospitals when they put the pressure on you. Since when did hospitals ever level with you?

I think all this pressure to make you get your BSN and more is a bunch of hogwash. The country is in a medical crisis and the future for employment for nurses of any kind is at its highest. Don't be pressured to go back to school unless.........YOU WANT TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is totally regionally. The RN's in my town have a tough time finding a job, considering there are 2 RN programs (ADN & BSN) and they are dumping tons of graduates on the market. The hospitals around here are requiring the ADN's to get their BSN and BSN's outnumber ADN's 5 to 1.

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Dear Altra,

I did not say to not advance yourself in nursing. Did you not read what I said? I said go back to school if you WANT to go back.

Excuse me, hospitals can and will play games with you, or are you a new nurse? If you're a new nurse, you've got some learning to do. If you're happy with your lot in life and you've worked hard for your degree, work and enjoy the fruits of your labor.

On the other hand, if you want to advance and go into management or administration, an advanced degree would help. But if you enjoy helping patients, working on the floor or a specialty, a lot of times an advanced degree is only that and no more.

I am all for going back to school, but I have met too many people who have them and don't make anymore money than a nurse with hands on experince. Nurses are in demand and WE CALL THE SHOTS, Literally. They need us more than we need them. The pressure they put on you is trying to maintain their control. If you don't understand that, I can't explain it in simpler terms.

Be the captain of your ship and sail away into your dream job. If you don't like working directly with patients, go the admin. route and go get your MSN.

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