IPN issues- 2015

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I was employed at a hospital January 2012- August 2014. I have 8 years experience as an RN, with NO issues. I was working as charge RN on PCU ( critical care unit), having worked my way up from staff RN. I was what you called " a nurse's nurse". I worked overtime, helped everyone out, and took on the difficult patients etc. My patient satisfaction score was high, and my yearly evaluation was excellent. I loved my job, my coworkers, and the patients. I love being a nurse.

In May 2014- my "husband" ( been together 23 years not legally married) attempted suicide. He has serious depression - and it cycles. This was from a car accident when he was 19 yrs old. He was in a coma for a week, and has been dealing with this mental illness ever since. I was working alot so I didn't realize how bad he was getting until the night he tried to hurt himself( he had been having "episodes" since feb. and would call me at work crying, and yes that affected me too). I tried to stop him and he attacked me, and I called the police on him. He went to jail. I also found out he was having an affair. I was devastated.

Not only was I dealing with the above, but I was having issues with my gallbladder/liver( pancreas?). I worked and was sick, with severe RUQ pain and nausea/vomiting. It became worse in June, and I had some imaging done. I was supposed to get an ERCP but I was terminated before I could use my insurance to do the testing.

The DON - saw me sick in the parking lot! I still went to work ( when I could) - and worked a lot for this hospital.

On top of that, my mother was in the hospital at the same time with sepsis and pancreatitis. So it was a ROUGH couple of months for me. But NEVER was I so emotionally upset or physically ill that I was a danger to public safety/patient care.

The first time I even knew anything was " amiss" with my nursing was after I told my boss about my husband attacking me etc., and I called out of work for a couple of days. My manager said " we need to talk. do you have anything to tell me? I said no , why? I had already told her everything about what I was going through, I had nothing to hide. I thought she was concerned about me. She stated" we had a nurse here once who's husband did the same thing and she was taking meds home to him". I said, "excuse me? She said that it has come to her attention that I was not wasting meds until the end of shift. I explained to her that no, WE all don't waste until the end of the shift because we are so freaking busy that we don't have time to stop for every waste in the pyxis. That is a bad nursing habit, but it is the real world of nursing. We all watch each other waste, and we all waste at the end of the shift. I told her that even all the ICU nurses do it, and it was common practice in our units. She checked in on this and guess what? There were signs up everywhere to "waste meds when you pull them " and there was a big to-do with all the nurses. So they couldn't write me up for that. The next thing I know - I am getting a "talk" again, this about charting a pain scale of 0 then half an hour later giving a pain med. It happens. Someone was a 0, then they started to hurt. Now, I have been at this hospital for almost 2 years and I have NEVER had in issue, now all of a sudden I feel that it's a "witch hunt" to get rid of me. All this has happened since I told them about my husband. My manager went behind my back and asked my patients if they received their pain meds, and they all said yes ( and what a great nurse I am etc.). So I had sign a paper that said" I will make sure I document pain scale accurately " ( something like that). So then a week or two later, I get a call saying I needed to come in and meet with the ADON and my manager.

I show up, and the ADON - tells me- "I don;t know what kind of nurse you are, but I don't like you."

Huh? They proceed to tell me that I am in "trouble", for not scanning all my meds ( they only care about the narcs- not antibiotics, IV fluids, or any of the other meds I didn't scan). Then they ask me about the 1 mg of morphine, and 0.25 mg of morphine I didn't waste in the pyxis. Over almost 2 years, these are the only two things I didn't waste in the pyxis ? She "assumed I gave them" therefore I gave a dose larger than was ordered- I am sure I charted in the computer the correct dose, but may have been so busy I forgot to do so in the pyxis. Geez, I know a lot of the nurses I worked with who forgot to waste meds too but they still have jobs. Or whose scans rates were really low. They are still working. Then she states i gave narcotics to a patient within 24 hours of discharge, and this was against policy. What policy? I have been a nurse long enough to know that we medicate patients 2-4 hrs up to discharge. This patient stayed an extra 4 days after his "supposed " discharge. This same patient was a pain in the butt- a "pain management -pt". He was on a TON of oral pain meds, plus a patch, plus he was evaluated for pain meds from a pain management doctor in the hospital. This doctor prescribed all his home pain meds, including dilaudid 2 mgs every 2 hours as needed. The surgeon who worked on this pt discontinued his most of his home pain meds, so yes, the pt needed pain meds every 2 hrs. I called the doctor several times to address this pt's pain complaints, and charted everything. I am told that I gave this pt more meds than any other nurse for one shift. This pt was self medicating when he first came in with his secret "stash" that I told his girlfriend not to bring in. You take away someone's meds and give them lower doses, they have issues. He was angry, and a clockwatcher. I took care of him for a week, trying to help him not be so angry and miserable. I never gave him medication outside what was ordered. ADON even checked the times I gave it-( every three hrs not just every 2) my manager asked this pt if he received his meds, and he said yes. ADON says " do you know what this looks like?'" I was completely blown away by all this, and felt like there was nothing I could say or do. I was not disciplined or warned about any of this. Then "threatened" - "contact IPN or I turn you into the board of nursing". 2 day window. I worked 7 days in a row for them when they were so short - staffed they couldn't get any one in to cover. I worked my ass off for this company and I feel like something's not right. I feel like I was wrongly terminated. If they thought I was having a problem- why not offer me a leave of absence? I had a lot going on in my personal life, but I never was a danger to patient safety- or violated the nurse practice act.

I guess I was just another warm body to them.

So I called IPN, and the intake lady told me they treated " burnout- stress, mental issues, not just drugs or alcohol issues". I thought I would get evaluated then be able to work. Get therapy, etc. I was wrong.

My first evaluator stated I was fine and had no issues.( except for mental health - recommended therapy etc.) I had a hair test done and it was positive for tramadol, which I had taken from a friend who told me it was not a controlled substance. Well, tramadol just became a controlled substance the end of August, and I didn't know that. But NOTHING else.

Then I had to do a repeat hair test, and it was negative. I tried looking for work and of course it is very hard to find a job with "key restriction" ( I was told this was because I didn't scan my meds all the time). In the mean time I have had negative UAs, one dilute, one abnormal.

About 5 - 6 weeks ago I was really sick. I had a migraine, sinus infection, and acute gallbladder/pancreatic pain. I dark urine, clay stools, RUQ severe pain, and nausea/vomiting. I was a mess. The only thing I kept down was smoothies- when I could keep something down. I also mix my smoothies with liquid vitamins. I was sick for approx. 3-4 days. All I had were smoothies. I had to pee in a cup while this was going on, and tested positive for ETG( etg?) So I was surprised when I found that out. Of course my case manager thinks I am a total boozer now, not taking into consideration that all my other tests are negative. So I offer to take a PEth test, and she declines stating I need to be "reevaluated". I did , and the new addictionologist didn't think I had any problems. I explained to him the only thing I found with ethanol in it was my liquid vitamins- 5.7%) and I sent him the label. I had used a different brand before that didn't have any etoh in it- ( GNC) but since I have no income I used a "bargain" brand that didn;t show ethanol on the website- who puts ethanol in vitamins??? Anyway, a week later ( 4wks from my positive UA) I have to take a PEth test. Another 2 weeks go by, and I see on the affinity website it is positive. Another week goes by ( today) I find out that IPN requires me to go to INPATIENT HOSPITALIZATION for my alcohol issue. *****?? My level was 27- and the cutoff was 20- I have read several conflicting reports on PEth, and I can assure you that I have not been consuming the required 7-8 drinks a day for 2 weeks to get that number. I have never had any issue with alcohol or drugs, I have never even asked for pain meds with my RUQ pain, or my ovarian cyst pain. Anyway - needless to say I feel like telling IPN what to do with their "recommendation". I can get a second opinion - should I? I have no income to pay for this new IPN requirement. I worked hard to be a nurse, and I am sad that this is what nurses who have issues have to go through. I didn't even know you could talk to a lawyer before signing an IPN contract!! I was forced into this, and I wasn't even in my right frame of mind. I was burnt out from work, and my personal life. I felt like I had no choice.

I tripped in urine during this time at this hospital and had to do a random UA- it was negative.

So, history for me- childhood abuse, and sexual assault while I was working as an RN in the middle east 2010-2011. I am in therapy, and that's really all I needed. Time off from work, and therapy. Not more stress, or inpatient rehab!!! I went from having NO issues with and substance - now I am a raging , unsafe alcoholic......the power of IPN!!! Unbelievable.

I thank you for your time, and look forward to talking to you. I appreciate any advice you may have. Please let me know if there is anything else I can provide for you that may help you evaluate my case.

Sorry that I rambled- I wanted to get everything out - I am sure you hear from nurses with worse cases than mine. I am grateful for any information you may have regarding my situation- If you think I have a case- I could sell my car. But I not going to rehab.

I went to school after I got fired- I graduated with my esthetician license. I am currently looking for a job in this field, since I can't take the Hospice job I got accepted for due to my "alcohol addiction"....seriously - IPN is not a good program for nurses. I would eventually like to start a fund for nurses going through this- to help pay attorney /rehab/ testing etc costs since they don't have jobs either.

Sincerely,

NurseEmRn

( felt good to write my story - and get it all out!)

letter to potential attorney

Am I crazy??????? I am now!!!!!!

Specializes in OR.

Hmmm.....i think that the next time they want to stick their beaks into the parts of my medical care that has nothing to do with them, I'll send them the pictures from my last colonoscopy. Just that thought amuses me a little.:)

Are you serious? You have to send IPN all of your medical records? *** does that have to do with anything? They have no legal right to see your CONFIDENTIAL MEDICAL RECORDS. I would have a lawyer take that to a court of law to see if they have ANY reason to inspect CONFIDENTIAL medical records. Your medical care is none of their business & has NOTHING to do with whether or not you are capable of working. What they are doing is criminal & needs to be stopped.

This organization needs to be sued, and sued but good. They need to be knocked down a few rungs from their self-constructed towers. They've given themselves too much power into people's lives. Nurses should start seeing sex therapists & send them the records from those sessions.

Specializes in OR.

I agree, someone needs to take on these people, but it will have to be someone who is a. Ready to give up being a nurse and b. Willing to let their privacy be dragged out into the open. I'm sorry to say, that is not me. These programs know this and that is why they continue on, carelessly ruining people indifferent to the damage that is caused. I am think most are like me, so beaten down that all we want is to get through this nightmare and leave it behind. After this is over, I for one will NEVER darken the door of any whatever anonymous meeting nor will I ever say that this experience was in any way helpful or useful. Sorry, just can't be that fake.

Specializes in ER, Med/Surg, Telemetry, Dialysis.

Yeah that's exactly how I feel too.

It's hard to explain to anyone who hasn't gone through it but it's like these people are god or something, they literally hold my livelihood and ability to financially provide for my children in their hands. That's a lot of power to hold over somebody.

And in my case, I was a drug addict and I did a terrible thing so it's like no matter what they do, my guilt and shame tell me I deserve it and by god I should just be GRATEFUL I'm getting this chance right? Sometimes I wish they had just taken my license rather than torture me with this "opportunity". I know so many people wrongly thrown into this program and I can't even fathom how they deal with it.

But you're not allowed to say or feel these things...you're supposed to just be grateful and full of serenity or some bull jive like that for their "help". Never mind the utter havoc they wreak on our lives. The mental health issues I had to begin with that led me to addiction, they're still there! Because they play middle man between me and my providers, call the shots on my medications, and again hold my livelihood over my head, I just smile and nod and say I'm okay because that's what I have to do. And hopefully I'll make it out of these 5 years alive and intact and can then truly get the help I've needed since I was a child...the help that I sadly sought when I checked myself into rehab, before ever hearing of HPMP and being completely naive to what they were about to do to my life...the help I never got because all that mattered was my shiny lil nursing license. Yeah, I'm a little bitter lol

Specializes in OR.

Feel free to join me in my little pot of bitterness. Thanks to this F'd up system, I got 6 months of drug rehab and NO psychiatric care, which was what I needed. I did not need a 6 month mind ****. All of this, besides costing my parents an unspeakable amount of money out of their retirement, really did some damage to my relationship with my family. I will get through the next 3 years, 11 months and 3 days, but aspects of my relationship with my family are forever ruined.

We need to start exposing this mafia. The IPN approved "psychiatrists" are in business for the money. They'll write anything in their reports to keep the money coming. Some are worse than others. pproved" MD's, in order to keep the racket going strong.

ITS TIME TO START EXPOSING THEIR NAMES EVERYONE. THIS ABUSE MUST STOP.

Specializes in ER, ICU/CCU, Open Heart OR Recovery, Etc.

A Michigan nurse is doing what needs to be done, in that state. This seems to be a very common thing.

An important part of this whole "rehab" thing is that if you are mandated by the board to have a month, 3 months or 6 months of drug rehab, then it should be covered by insurance & not an out of pocket expense. Same thing goes for urine screens & any other thing that has been "ordered". Telling nurses that they must see IPN approved providers is ridiculous. Ceasing a nurse's ability to work while they are in the program is not conducive to being able to pay for anything. How can a nurse afford $30,000/month when they aren't working? And even if they are, how can they afford $30,000 anyway? Plus the urine screens & everything else. The boards create a program that is damned near impossible to comply with. Sometimes I think that they secretly take pleasure in their impossible programs & watching nurses fail. Ordering nurses to have treatment that they do not need increases their "census" & justifies their existence. God forbid any of these people have to go back into actual nursing, because they've been sitting in pretty offices for so long that they wouldn't know how to function.

What is needed is an attorney willing to blow this whole thing out of the water to the public. Nurses won't do it because IPN will rip them a new a**hole in the public, say that they are bitter & not in their right mind and make the nurse look like an animal that deserves to be crucified on a cross. They will make themselves look like saviors and the nurses to look like villains.

I'd love to know how much money the "approved providers" make from IPN referrals, what they charge for evaluations & how many of their clients are not nurses in IPN. These addiction medicine providers are making money hand over fist because of the boards while nurses are bankrupted.

What is my advice? Take all that money that you'd spend on rehab, urine screens, etc. and put toward going back to college. Get another degree & a new career. You can get a great education for $30,000-$90,000. Get out of health care, because with the way it's going, the whole system is going to collapse in the near future anyway.

I knew a CRNA that had to pony up $90,000 for a 3 month stay at Talbot House, because that is the only place IPN would allow him to go. Meanwhile, Hazelton is in West Palm Beach & his insurance would have paid for it. He said that in retrospect, he should have taken that $90,000 and done something else.

Specializes in OR.

An interesting aside, the initial "approved" places (Talbot being one of them) that my states program directed me to rejected me on the grounds that they could not provide what I needed, which was psychiatric focused, NOT drug/alcohol related. After getting those rejections, I get directed to one of the sleazier outfits and there went 6 months of my life and a ton of money for "treatment" I did not need. My psychiatric issues (medication management, appropriately focused counseling) were completely disregarded as was treatment for my hypertension and other physical issues. Gotta love the corruption.

There is a special place in h*ll for ----. Harsh to say but seriously... how this unethical man has managed to keep his medical license while we all fight to keep ours is a mystery to me.

UPDATE: have an "informal hearing" tomorrow in Orlando- according to the FBON, my response to the charges was not sent in on time, therefore I forfeit my chance to refuse the accusations..etc. etc . etc. WELL, according to my lawyer - it was sent on time and this is a huge waste of time and money. So I will be there tomorrow, watching my lawyer in action. However, this is just about paperwork that was /wasnt submitted on time.( unbelievable - as if I am AUTOMATICALLY guilty beacuse my paperwork was 3 days late according to the FBON attorney!!) I still have to go back for a hearing about my actual case in Feb. NO IPN!! By the way, I have " emergency restricted/ACTIVE" on my license, which states I can work but under restrictions. What restrictions and who am I supposed to ask about it? They sure don't make this easy!!

Hope all the rest of you guys are doing great- will keep you updated - maybe my experience will help some one someday

I can't believe they made you go to treatment- and how do this evaluators diagnose nurses with opiate addiction when there hasnt been a pattern of abuse? My evaluator stated there were new " numbers" in his evaluation tools ( he's a tool!) that showed I was a danger to public- these new numbers are the reason his eval was different form my first one who stated I was fine. Hmmmmmm

corruption? greed? I hope you are doing better!

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