hello.....just wondering if any instructors or past instructors come here?
if so....or anyone can jump in and tell me what they think on this one.....
ok...I am in a 10mo LPN program...I am 45 and the range in class is 20 to 40's........in my clinical group there are 8 of us......3 or 4 out of the 8 i can see being good nurses.....the others.....no so....even though one is very book smart,she is the 20 yr ol by the way......she is not the caring compasionate person that a nurse should be....she looks down on PTs,makes fun of them in our conference room and mostly just sits in there doing nothin......she and the others look up VS on the computer for their nurses note...even though we are to take our own.....they do half poop care on the PTs.....AND one is nothing but a drunk....she comes in smelling of the nights before beer binge.....she is 26 and has a 3 yr ol daughter....now i know what people do in there private time is no concern....this person also comes to class straight from the bars in the morning....you can smell the alcohol in the classroom.....the instructors know this....this person is down to NO hours left to miss.....we get 40hrs in sept......she now has none....even if she is 5 mins late....either for class or clinic....BUT...our clinic instructor does not deduct the time...she has taken this girl under her wing to get her thru school...she is very smart....and i think if she got her life together she would be a good nurse...but she has tried several times this year to quit drinking.....she talks about it all the time....she counts down the hours till she can leave shcool to go get drunk.....one of our instructors gave her a ride home one morning drunk fro school.....she had forgotten we didnt have school one day and showed up.....
NOW..my question....should a instructorin good moral standing and good conscious let this person out in the world of nursing?(by instructor,i mean the head)
also....our clinical instructor is a teaching aide for our class.....we have 2 instructors...one in the morning and one in the afternoon.....the aide does like the med testing on us and such....no teaching.....she is our clinical instrutor...she is 33.....and acts like she is 19.....she flirts with the PTs family young sons....or guy who might be in the hall or in the dinning room....she constantly talks about her sex life and what she does....with the younger gals in our clinic....i am NOT learning anything from her and I hate clinic...as well as a couple of the other older gals who are there to become the best nurses we can be.....so we take it upon ourselves to search out nurses on our floor to help us......i had a nurse come up to me one day and ask it our instructor was a bit on the wacky side....not good...also.....when our head instructor of the program comes in to observe she a different person.....in charge,bossy,telling us what to do,what lab values to look for....just a show....i feel like standing up and saying this is NOT how it is.....but i have to pass clinical.....so i dont........
cause i think she is the type of person if she doesnt like you,she will fail you.....
I di that I know what they failed to teach and they used it agianst me. ANd I say It is their fault when they spent more time trying to fail a student then try and mentor them. That is totally wrong and not what nursing is all about. This setup I faced was all about their power and control. ANd they used it well. I wont ever forget it, it leaves a bad taste in my christian mouth.
Once again the evil instructors go back to school and plot and scheme about how to fail the students That's my favorite part of my job, and the only reason I got into this, you know!!
I've done an LPN certificate, ADN, BSN, MSN and post-MSN certificates. I just haven't encountered bad instructors EVER in three states over a period of 18 years. Yes, there were instructors thaI personally liked more than others and some that were more gifted speakers than others. However, I found that if I gave 50% the instructors came thru too.
I found out that all my instructors were gossips, about the students and specially the picked on ones. Theybent over backward to help each other fail a student for no good reason.
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I like to take that school down and all those teachers, but don't know how and can't fight city hall without a price.
ANy thoughts.
You sound so angry right now that it must be difficult for you to analyze the situation objectively.
Perhaps you did encounter a bad teacher. Perhaps you did encounter an "evil" person. But it is very unlikely that everyone in the school is "out to get you" for no good reason. That type of paranoid thinking will not help you be successful in school or in the workplace.
You need to find someone (a counselor? an academic advisor? a clergyman?) who can help you to calm down and analyze the situation without interpreting everything through your hurt, disappointment, and anger. Only then will you be able to think about your situation in a productive way. You might need to take a break from education for a while ... or go to some sort of retreat ... etc. to take yourself away from the stimulous that fuels your emotions so that you can move in a positive direction.
Good luck to you. I hope you find the help you seem to need.
Once again the evil instructors go back to school and plot and scheme about how to fail the students That's my favorite part of my job, and the only reason I got into this, you know!!
I am sure that's not why. Most instructors are great. And I had a fantastic experience. But getting dropped on the last day? Unheard of.
And contracts are for the the birds especially when they are slipped into your eval and not told what it is.
I guess I was a little naive. I really liked this lady too,
You sound so angry right now that it must be difficult for you to analyze the situation objectively.
Perhaps you did encounter a bad teacher. Perhaps you did encounter an "evil" person. But it is very unlikely that everyone in the school is "out to get you" for no good reason. That type of paranoid thinking will not help you be successful in school or in the workplace.
You need to find someone (a counselor? an academic advisor? a clergyman?) who can help you to calm down and analyze the situation without interpreting everything through your hurt, disappointment, and anger. Only then will you be able to think about your situation in a productive way. You might need to take a break from education for a while ... or go to some sort of retreat ... etc. to take yourself away from the stimulous that fuels your emotions so that you can move in a positive direction.
Good luck to you. I hope you find the help you seem to need.
Sorry I was just venting. ANd if you were in my shoes after what I saw, you'd be feeling the same way. And you have no idea.....what I've seen. THe backstabbing...
Overall my clinical experience was AAWESOME, and the nurses were great, this was just a little upset that took place all semester between me and one clinical instructor, but I love nursing and I'm not going to quit or give up.
And i've been off all semester, I have to apply to get back in.
As for help, I go to church every sunday, and I cannot figure out through my own christianity how some people can be so kaniving.
And no I'm not paranoid, but even the students whom you think are friends aren't really, they dont give a crap either way as long as they make it.
I've clinically analzed the problem and the problem is the teacher doesn't like older students, and I can tell she's been an alcoholic, because her hands shake, she using the students to do what she can no longer do, and she has NO good bedside nursing.
I've been a CNA for 7 years and havn't seen anything like what I've seen in schooling, in the clinical setting.
When I was in nursing school, there was one instructor who was of a different race. There were three girls of an opposite race who were from a neighboring state, and their tuition was being paid by a government program (but not Welfare). This instructor made the comment out loud in class, that she would see to it that three (insert racist adjective) girls would NOT pass, that she didn't like them. And made the further remark that she would do EVERYTHING in her power to see that the one male student who was of HER race would pass.
The instructors and dean were told of her remarks. No one took us seriously and we just lived with her as well as we could.
Only ONE of those three girls passed. And the male student, he failed as well.
I saw her in a hospital gift shop one day and wanted to knock her in the head, and my nursing school was over 24 years ago. And I remember her name, her face, and her b*%$& attitude.
And I know I passed when she wanted me to fail!!!!!!
I guess the point of my post is that there are foolish instructors, and that you have to stay under the radar, and do your best. Those who think they are getting by will end up looking foolish, and so will those who "helped" them.
When I was in nursing school, there was one instructor who was of a different race. There were three girls of an opposite race who were from a neighboring state, and their tuition was being paid by a government program (but not Welfare). This instructor made the comment out loud in class, that she would see to it that three (insert racist adjective) girls would NOT pass, that she didn't like them. And made the further remark that she would do EVERYTHING in her power to see that the one male student who was of HER race would pass.
The instructors and dean were told of her remarks. No one took us seriously and we just lived with her as well as we could.
Only ONE of those three girls passed. And the male student, he failed as well.
I saw her in a hospital gift shop one day and wanted to knock her in the head, and my nursing school was over 24 years ago. And I remember her name, her face, and her b*%$& attitude.
And I know I passed when she wanted me to fail!!!!!!
I guess the point of my post is that there are foolish instructors, and that you have to stay under the radar, and do your best. Those who think they are getting by will end up looking foolish, and so will those who "helped" them.
Yes, I understand and if I get back in next January, I dont know how I will feel, about what they have done. Especially a theory teacher who broke my confidence and repeated what I'd said to her to the other clinical instructor, and mind you it wasn't bad. Just that my eval didn't look good and i was worried about passing clinical. I'll never forget and vow to never be like like them.
Specializes in med/surg, telemetry, IV therapy, mgmt.
ANd if you were in my shoes after what I saw, you'd be feeling the same way. And you have no idea.....what I've seen.
This is where your discussion fails. You expect others to understand what you saw and felt and then turn around and say they can have no idea about what you've seen. That's incongruent and illogical. You can't be illogical when working in a scientific profession.
This is where your discussion fails. You expect others to understand what you saw and felt and then turn around and say they can have no idea about what you've seen. That's incongruent and illogical. You can't be illogical when working in a scientific profession.
This is not Illogical, I dont expect anyone to understand unless they had been there. And I dont expect anyone to know how it feels. And it would take too long to explain it here.
Your a nurse you've seen alot. Maybe you've experiened some miss-treatment yourself or with others.
There is nothing scientific about nursing! Except calculations and working in a lab. WHich most nurses dont'. Yes you have to know some calculations and pathophysiology, but it doesn't take a genius to be a nurse.
What does this have anything to do with the situation? Talk about assumptions...
Thats not an assumption, thats a fact, I know people that know her. It has alot to do with it. She using the students to replace herself and inability to nurse anymore, and she doesn't like the older student.
There is only two reasons for this--alcoholic or parkinsons. The later is not it. It doesn't take a genius to figure this one out either. My brother was an alcolholic and his hands shook also.
There is nothing scientific about nursing! Except calculations and working in a lab. WHich most nurses dont'. Yes you have to know some calculations and pathophysiology, but it doesn't take a genius to be a nurse.
Ahhhh... now we start to see why this student has had some problems in nursing school.
That's my favorite part of my job, and the only reason I got into this, you know!!
ReinventingMyselfAgain, MSN, RN
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Once again the evil instructors go back to school and plot and scheme about how to fail the students
That's my favorite part of my job, and the only reason I got into this, you know!!