I'm transferring with less than a year until I graduate.... Am I crazy?!

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Okay so long story short, I started las June in a 2 yr. ADN program. The program had some accreditations (SAC) and way okay per my BON to sit for boards. Well I just found out they are no long looking to receive CCNE or ACEN accreditation, just maintain SAC. I have 9 mo's until I graduate-- but I can't stay there for fear of my sanity. I'm getting bullied, we're not being taught material we should be learning, and I cry every day I'm there.

I've been talking to a rep at a different school in my city about their school's BSN program. I went there for a meeting and loved the school. I have an AA so all of my gen-ed classes will transfer, but none of my nursing courses will (because of the school's accreditation issues). I will be starting in October at this new school.

I would be graduating in July 2015 if I stayed at my current school and got my ADN...

But I would be graduating in Dec. 2016 with a BSN if I go through with transferring... (And it would be from a school that has all accreditations.)

Im not crazy right? Transferring doesn't make you a quitter does it? So long as you finish?

what do you guys think???

And my point was that there is a possibility that she may not even be able to get a job at a hospital with an ADN from an unaccredited institution. Because with the increase in unaccredited for-profit schools out there, there is also many more facilities that are saying that they won't hire an RN from an unaccredited school.

So you find a school (rn to bsn) that's **accredited** after the adn..... You will become a RN BSN from an accredited institution upon completion. I'll say it again for emphasis: RN BSN.

TheCommuter has compiled a list some excellent programs. There is a lot to choose from.

Please relax, you are absolutely not doomed from going to a school that lacks accreditation.

But if you feel you are being robbed of your education... That kinda changes it a bit

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Specializes in L&D, infusion, urology.

Wow, this school sounds like bad news. Run far and fast! Not getting to touch actual flesh and blood patients is a bad sign!!

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Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.

Perhaps I'm not being clear. Many facilities state "RN from an ACCREDITED institution". Not BSN. RN. Getting a BSN does not always automatically cancel out that one's RN is from a non-accredited school.

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Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
Perhaps I'm not being clear. Many facilities state "RN from an ACCREDITED institution". Not BSN. RN. Getting a BSN does not always automatically cancel out that one's RN is from a non-accredited school.

THIS.

In this market, one needs to be cognizant of how some markets work in terms of ACEN and CCNE accreditation.

The job I just accepted asked whether I went to a CCNE or ACEN (formally NLNAC) program; so it is even in the hiring process at some of the large teaching institutions.

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Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.

It's part of the hiring process of MANY large institutions. Pretty much every hospital network in Denver states "RN from accredited institution" in job prerequisites.

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Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
It's part of the hiring process of MANY large institutions. Pretty much every hospital network in Denver states "RN from accredited institution" in job prerequisites.

:yes:

I even work for a nursing home company that asks for the same information...it's even past the hospitals.

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Specializes in Forensic Psych.

Transferring doesn't make you a quitter. Quitting makes you a quitter, and that's only a bad thing some of the time.

If you're happy and still on the path you want to be on, CONGRATULATIONS! That's more than a lot of people out there can say ?

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Perhaps I'm not being clear. Many facilities state "RN from an ACCREDITED institution". Not BSN. RN. Getting a BSN does not always automatically cancel out that one's RN is from a non-accredited school.

It seems that this criteria (albeit a bit biased and unfair to many) is highly variable in regards to region and employer's point of view of schooling. I've seen mostly 'Graduate from an accredited school of nursing. BSN preferred' and 'maintain x-state RN license'. At least that is common in NYC's top tier hospitals. The "RN license from accredited institution" is a new one for me... can anyone link or provide evidence hospitals that have advertised this? I am curious to know, maybe the area is so inundated with RNs for them to be that choosy. I've read that most look to see if you just have your BSN or highest degree earned. And perhaps ask where you did your rotations. But would still love to see some job postings that requires this.

Regardless, the cold hard fact is that you can still get your BSN from a good school, and still advance your career in good standing. No speculation involved there. Lots and lots of nurses have graduated from nonaccredited schools and state colleges in the past, and went to do their rn to bsn, and then pursue advanced practice - this has been discussed ad nauseum on allnurses too. They are more than fine with employment! There is a reason why these programs exist.

With that said..... it seems as your education is very subpar and you deserve way better. That totally changes things, compounds your current issues unnecessarily. It's best to find a new program in your specific case. I'm sorry you're going through this mess. Best of luck, and please keep us updated on your progress.

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Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
It seems that this criteria (albeit a bit biased and unfair to many) is highly variable in regards to region and employer's point of view of schooling. I've seen mostly 'Graduate from an accredited school of nursing. BSN preferred' and 'maintain x-state RN license'. At least that is common in NYC's top tier hospitals. The "RN license from accredited institution" is a new one for me... can anyone link or provide evidence hospitals that have advertised this? I am curious to know, maybe the area is so inundated with RNs for them to be that choosy. I've read that most look to see if you just have your BSN or highest degree earned. And perhaps ask where you did your rotations. But would still love to see some job postings that requires this.

Here's a couple of examples:

https://careers.peopleclick.com/careerscp/client_pennmedicine/nursing/jobDetails.do?functionName=getJobDetail&jobPostId=29920&localeCode=en-us

http://www.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=694006892acee106&from=serp

Regardless, the cold hard fact is that you can still get your BSN from a good school, and still advance your career in good standing. No speculation involved there. Lots and lots of nurses have graduated from nonaccredited schools and state colleges in the past, and went to do their rn to bsn, and then pursue advanced practice - this has been discussed ad nauseum on allnurses too. They are more than fine with employment! There is a reason why these programs exist.

Yes, there is a reason why "these" programs exist; there are plenty who have decided to "cash in" on the nursing shortage and take people's money; there are a certain sect of these schools that aren't up to par, such as the OP's where they're NOT getting clinical sites and are using sims labs for "clinicals" as the OP explains; that sounds like the school is not even meeting their requirements by the BON, hence their difficulty in getting a ACEN accreditation.

Some of these schools are closing and even getting their privileges revoked due to not meeting graduation requirements and not

meeting NCLEX passing rates; these schools are being reported to consumer agencies as well; you can look into a few posts in this forum about those issues:

https://allnurses.com/nursing-news/profit-colleges-alumni-938882.html

https://allnurses.com/nursing-news/large-profit-college-937257.html

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" Graduate of an NLN approved school of professional nursing. Licensed to practice professional nursing in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. BSN from an accredited program is required. *BLS Required."

Umm.. Where does this say you have to get your RN license from an accredited program? It just says you need a bsn from an accredited school of nursing. There is a difference between the two. This is normal. My confusion is some people here are saying "most" hospitals require you to get your RN license from an accredited school, and still would like to see valid evidence for such claim.

Also, NO ONE IS DEBATING the efficacy of "for profit" programs. And no one is debating the importance of CCNE or NLNAC accreditation! The point is that if you come out of one, YOU ARE NOT DOOMED. You have a thousands of options out there.

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Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
" Graduate of an NLN approved school of professional nursing. Licensed to practice professional nursing in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. BSN from an accredited program is required. *BLS Required."

Umm.. Where does this say you have to get your RN license from an accredited program? It just says you need a bsn from an accredited school of nursing. There is a difference between the two. This is normal. My confusion is some people here are saying "most" hospitals require you to get your RN license from an accredited school, and still would like to see valid evidence for such claim.

If you fill out the application; they specifically state NLNAC or CCNE school of nursing; since I didn't want to go through the process of applying to the position and revealing information about me, you can feel free to go through the process and see for yourself. :yes:

"accreditation" does mean ACEN and CCNE, know that for a FACT based on my experience of filling out forms in my area.

In your area, call up your area hospitals and ask; BON approval is NOT accreditation. :no:

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If you fill out the application; they specifically state NLNAC or CCNE school of nursing; since I didn't want to go through the process of applying to the position and revealing information about me, you can feel free to go through the process and see for yourself. :yes:

"accreditation" does mean ACEN and CCNE, know that for a FACT based on my experience of filling out forms in my area.

In your area, call up your area hospitals and ask; BON approval is NOT accreditation. :no:

So you put in your BSN school that's accredited from the RN-to-BSN bridge...or your highest degree earned.

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