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luvmy2angels · Mar 2, 2006

WOW! As stated by so many others i am terribly sorry that this happened to your son and I would do my best to make sure that this boy was punished!! As far as what can be spread via urine...I know that hepatitis can and I believe that there are some STDs that can be transmitted through the urine. I would call your family Dr and ask him and have some tests scheduled. Let us know what happens and I hope your son is okay.

gr8rnpjt, RN · Mar 2, 2006

I would suggest you do two things, one call the principals office directly. If they blow this off at all, hang up and call the school district and ask to speak to the superintendant! The school systems try to minimize things that are done at least that has been my experience.

The second thing to do is go to the courthouse and file charges! Your son was assaulted.

Let me tell you my experience with the school system. I have gone over the prinicipals heads many times. The school superintendants know my name.

My daughter was waiting in the bus line in 7th grade. While in line, the boy behind her whispered in her ear, "I am going to kill you and rape your corpse."

My daughter came in the door white-faced. I was appalled that a 7th grader could even come up with such a concept.

The next morning, I called the principal's office. I left a detailed message with his secretary. By the end of the day, I had heard nothing. I called the office and left a second message with the secretary that I wanted a call back. Still nothing.

The next morning, I called the superintendant's secretary. I left another detailed message and included the fact that the principal did nothing, and I wanted the mother notified that if nothing was done about this I would have the police on her doorstep by the next day.

By the end of the day, I had an apology from the child's mother, the principal,and the secretary, my daughter had an apology from the boy who was in tears. The child was suspended, and my daughter had my assurance that she should never accept this type of behavior, and if it ever occurred again she knew that she would have my support.

Schools are not places that our children should be in fear of their safety. Our children must be able to be assured that we are not going to stand for any

breach of their security. Our children need to know that they will be safe in the school or else there will be no learning.

Be strong and don't let this child get away with this behavior. Send your school a clear message that you expect your child to learn in a safe environment.

Blee O'Myacin, BSN, RN · Mar 2, 2006

is no reason to not go to that school kicking and screaming.

File a police report. This is assault.

Go to the school and insist that this child be removed from any class that your son is attending, and if the child is old enough, obtain a restraining order.

The school will try to mollify you and do essentially nothing. It is your job to be the squeaky wheel.

I've had a recent traumatic experience at my son's school involving another child. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk more. I am not comfortable posting the details on a public forum.

((Hugs))

Blee

Ladies and Gents!
I do apologize in advance. My son came home today and said that he had taken a drink out of his sports bottle and tasted something odd. Evidently a boy at his high school urinated in my son sports bottle as a sick joke and he did drink a swallow. We are all nurses and I know that I can ask this question to get some real professional feedback on what I should do here. I have looked up on the internet what type of communicable diseases could be spread in urine and the information is a bit vague. I know that the fluid is urine, but I am interested to know what diseases are possible in urine. I know that as a nurse I should be on top of this but for some reason my "parent brain" has taken over the "nurse brain" and I cannot get past the anger I have right now for a teenage student that is THAT mean and to do something that cruel. We all know that HIV/Hepatitis is transmitted via blood but I have never really had to really contemplate what diseases are relevant if a person drinks another person's urine. Thanks for everyones professional advice and if you also have any advice how I should approach the school administration in the AM regarding this issue, I would also appreciate that. Right now I am furious, but I want to take a complete professional approach in the AM on this and I will not stand for this other child just getting a slap on the wrist. I believe that what he has done is completely unacceptable. Thanks in advance for your advice.:stone

tencat · Mar 2, 2006

this doesn't seem like one of those "forgive and forget" moments. throw the book at this kid and his parents (and the school if possible).

I agree with the fact that you want to make the parents and the kid take responsibility for what the rotten kid did, but HOW is the school ultimately responsible??? Unless a teacher saw it happen and did nothing to stop it (which is VERY unlikely), how are school personnel supposed to automatically know that something bad happened, and what's more, should have seen into the future to know it would happen? Please, be realistic. School personnel cannot be there for every second of every kid's life. Rotten things happen in schools, and the kids who do them are very tricky and know how to do these things without getting caught. If the administration would get rid of these few kids and not let them come back to terrorize the majority of kids who are good kids, that's when the number of problems would start to dwindle. Until school boards and other parents are willing to say to these kids and their parents that their kids have lost the priviledge of a free education, nothing will change. The problem is that these kind of kids have parents that condone their behavior. The parents are often bullies, too. As a parent you need to stand up to them and don't back down. I would get the police involved if they will take the case.

Gods child · Mar 2, 2006

Should the school really be responsible? Or is that just wanting to place the blame wherever one can out of anger? Yes, it happened at the school, but did the "school" actually do anything wrong? Would it be safe to say that most schools do the best they can to provide a safe environment, but no school can control the acts of every single student? I don't know....just something I thought about. There are no right or wrong answers because we all perceive things differently.

I can't believe the kid would do something so cruel. This story and others like it really make me sad.

TazziRN, RN · Mar 2, 2006

I agree about the school: I don't there is any culpability there UNLESS your son went to a teacher or other school official and nothing was done. Then you have a strong leg to stand on.

joshuaclay · Mar 2, 2006

in a perfect world, the school would take the appropriate measures and the student would be expelled (clearly he is not fit to be around other kids yet). we all know this world's not perfect.

if you don't come down on the school to some degree (and usually with a very firm hand), they will take the absolute minimal action. this has been my experience, and i understand that all schools are different. if it were my child, i know that my grief and my child's grief would be amplified if the school should fail to properly punish the offending child. when i say "throw the book at the school too", it is not because they are to blame, but because if you don't, they may brush the whole affair under the rug.

schools do not like confrontation with parents. that includes the parents of the bad kids.

noc_owl · Mar 2, 2006

if you don't come down on the school to some degree (and usually with a very firm hand), they will take the absolute minimal action. this has been my experience, and i understand that all schools are different.
schools do not like confrontation with parents. that includes the parents of the bad kids.

This has been my experience also. One of my kids has already graduated from highschool and I have a child in high school now. Unfortunately if there is some type of harassment taking place, you have to be all over the school and up the chain of command to get any action taken.

tlhubbard · Mar 2, 2006

Sorry about your situation. As a mother, I was faced with an incident report at Headstart. My child had been bitten by another (not unusual for the age group) However, this same child also punched her in the eye at the same time (also the bite left marks for hours after). Come to find out this was the same child (the first week of school) who had knocked over a book shelf (nearly on 2 children) pulled a mirror off the wall and had went through the center like a tornado.

I asked for action from the school r/t my daughter's incident. I was told "Privacy, blah, blah, blah" I said, "I understand privacy, I also understand my daughter has a right to come to school and be safe." So her rights should be protected, as she is not the villian here. Throwing around a few choice words like "assault", "attorney", "police report" and "court" and then following up with "school too". The little criminal disappeared from my daughter's class by the next week. The rest of the school year was beautiful.

Forget professional, just be straight forward with your intentions, and how you do not expect to have to see the school regarding this little deviant again. It's amazing what can be done when you go in determined.

Good luck

Darlene K. · Mar 2, 2006

I would contact the police.

blynn · Mar 2, 2006

I was just wondering what your son felt about all of this? Was he really disturbed by this, or did he just think it was a lame joke? Does he really not get along with the boy who did this, or are they friends? (I know you might think it's bizarre to ask if they are friends, but teenage boys are a strange breed, only type of people I know that can be knock down fighting one day and good friends the next.) Personally I'd go through with all the medical testing that you feel is necessary, but I would speak with your son first about pressing criminal charges against the boy.

MMARN, BSN, RN · Mar 2, 2006

YUUUUUUCK!!! :barf02: That is absolutely disgusting. You should definitely press charges. That is endangering someone's health. However, I do believe that urine is mostly sterile even though it contains our wastes. I'm not sure about HIV, but I believe that HepC is transmitted through that type of bodily fluid. But, there are so many things, that I would absolutely go to the police and raise HELL :devil: :angryfire at the school. Nobody has to endure this. This is ridiculous. I would also insist that the punk had blood tests drawn and the whole nine yards. You could never be too careful. Good luck with this ordeal and God bless you and your son.

Mave.