Please all with experience in the following matter respond!
Hello all,
I graduated nursing school with my BSN in May 08". I immediately took a job at a large,prestiges, hospital. 21/2 months into my preceptorship I went to my manager and told her that i did not think this floor was a good fit for me and would like to pursue another floor. She gave me her opinion that I should pursue non-surgical floors with post-op patients.At my facility one is to stay on there floor for a year before transfer.After speaking to HR I was granted an early transfer. this took place on oct.1. Since then I have applied for 15 jobs! Yes, it is my managers opinion that I should not work on surgical floors but that is not her decsion to make for me.
I began to notice that I was being turned down for position the same day or the next day of me putting up my application.When I would call the managers of the floor I was denied a job and asked them why they simply said,"we are interested in other applicants." The recruter for surgical floor positions must have gotten tired of seeing me name.She called me and said,"You might want to apply for positions that are not surgical.What about another hospital all together". She went on to say that," Managers are a tight circle..they talk." What does that mean? I know what that means. I went to HR who in turn spoke to my manager who tried to assure her that she was not saying anything adverse against my character. I have so many reasons( the above being one)to not believe that.So ,I can get to the point I will not point out other evidence.
Bottom line...
Upper authority intimidates me. I am scared to approach her or any other upper managment with my alligations. I was always tought to stand up for myself but this manager can make my carrer hell? I have tried to talk to her and she does not return my calls or e-mails. I have no choice but to go to her manager. Is it wise to go against managment? I am a new nurse and
I do not want to make waves. But she is interfering with my lively hood and taking oppurtunities away from me that I deserve.
Specializes in Gyn Onc, OB, L&D, HH/Hospice/Palliative.
I would seek employment elsewhere. In hindsight, I think 2.5 months is really too soon to conclude you are in the wrong place. I probably would have sucked it up at least for 6 months to see if things changed. BTW, I would leave this off your resume, just get some references from friends/coworkers if you can
Specializes in Day Surgery, Agency, Cath Lab, LTC/Psych.
Excellent post, Jolie. I agree 100%. Staying 2.5 months at a job and then deciding it isn't a "good fit" is a real red flag to other unit managers. I would caution the OP to carefully reflect upon the things you have learned and what you still need to learn. Being a new grad is difficult regardless of the floor you are on. I hope you are able to come to a good decision about your job.
I have no choice but to go to her manager. Is it wise to go against managment?
You have certainly been blackballed. The more people you get involved though, the further it will spread. Unfortunately, the best thing you can do is keep working on your present unit, and wait for all this to blow over. If you decide to leave, get a PRN job in another hospital and as your work increases there, quit your present job.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the problem might be you. Your English isn't very good, so if you chart like you post, you might not leave a good paper trail. Also, your screen name suggests to me that you have a poor attitude.
Maybe you should think about working on yourself before you complain about being blackballed.
From what you have posted your nurse manager is not taking anything away from you. She was the one who orignally gave you a chance to fullfill your dreams of nursing in a hospital setting. You are the one who interferred with your own livlihood.
Your manager hired you with the understanding/contract that you would put in one year. You are the one who is breaking the contract. This is a huge red flag. It puts it out there you cannot be trusted to fullfill your obligations. Everyone who starts a job feels overwhelmed, goes home in tears and feels frustrated. That is normal. It usually goes away after one has been in their position for at least a year.
What is not the road to take is to bail out. Those who have intregrity, and emotional maturity hang in there realizing " this too will pass". Talk to your nurse manager, maintain your current position if it is at all possible. If it were me I would do what ever it would take to succeed in my current position on my current unit. Then after the contract has been fulfilled if I still felt I wanted to move on then I would put in my request, but not before.
Good luck to you. I hope you can undo any damage. The nursing community in any area/city is a small one no matter what facility you go to. Too many people realize this too late.
We have a hospital policy that you cannot transfer until you have been off of orientation for 6 months, though our managers make it clear that the preference is a year. No one would take a transfer prior to 6 months even if the employees manager ok'd it, because no one would want someone who isn't going to stick around. Since it is your first nursing job, no matter what kind of employee you actually are, you are giving the impression that you don't have a lot of sand. If I were a floor manager, unless I were desperate, I wouldn't hire you, either. Why risk putting a lot of time and money into hiring you when you have shown you don't have a history of paying that back? Better to save that position for someone with a more positive work history.
It just doesn't look good to only work on a floor for 2 1/2 months. Seriously, nursing that first year is SO HARD. It really *does* get better. You do not have the time management, clinical, and critical thinking skills required of the job--no one straight out of nursing school does. Sure, some do better than others, but this is a profession where you learn so much on the job, so much that school can't teach you.
If I were you, I would try my hardest to stick with my current job for a year. Is the problem your floor, or is it you? Seriously think about this. What can you do to make your floor a better fit? Are there skills and personality traits you can work on? Extend your preceptorship maybe? I would talk to your manager about your concerns, and then make an effort to stay there. You will learn a lot, and you will not have a black mark on your resume. I honestly don't think your manager has blackballed you, you've done that do yourself by quitting your first nursing job without even finishing orientation. Based on this one job and the attitude you exude in your screen name, I wouldn't hire you, either.
Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.
I've moved your thread to the First Year in Nursing forum.
Please take a look around here... 2 2/1 -3 months -6 months is one of the most stressful times as a new RN. The bloom is off the rose, reality setting in and overwhelming responsibility as one is cut loose from orientation occurs. Time support and good mentoring will help you get through this transition phase.
Reflect on what you HAVE learned, areas of weakness, what areas support are available to you at work to determine what's best for your future and make you more attractive candidate to another manager.
Specializes in Family Medicine, Outpatient Pediatrics, IBCLC.
You guys are scaring me! I just sent an an e-mail to my nurse educator saying the floor may not be a good fit for me and that I'd like to transfer to a certain specialty if possible...I tried to explain how much I appreciated everything that was done for me and all that...and I ended by saying that if the transfer isn't possible then I'd like to switch to nights.....
When I first started, my educator said that if it isn't working out, they try to find a better fit for you. I saw someone post that you should think long and hard before taking your first job, but how are you to know if you'll like it if you've never done it? I wanted to give med/surg a try because everyone (including my mom who's an RN) said to do that first.
I know that the first year is supposed to be challenging. But there's a difference between that and feeling lousy and anxious the entire day before a shift.
Good luck to you 1styearsucks. I agree with the others, get a fresh start. I hope to see "2ndyearsmuchbetter" soon!!!
You guys are scaring me! I just sent an an e-mail to my nurse educator saying the floor may not be a good fit for me and that I'd like to transfer to a certain specialty if possible...I tried to explain how much I appreciated everything that was done for me and all that...and I ended by saying that if the transfer isn't possible then I'd like to switch to nights.....
When I first started, my educator said that if it isn't working out, they try to find a better fit for you. I saw someone post that you should think long and hard before taking your first job, but how are you to know if you'll like it if you've never done it? I wanted to give med/surg a try because everyone (including my mom who's an RN) said to do that first.
I know that the first year is supposed to be challenging. But there's a difference between that and feeling lousy and anxious the entire day before a shift.
Good luck to you 1styearsucks. I agree with the others, get a fresh start. I hope to see "2ndyearsmuchbetter" soon!!!
That is so sweet. and funny. i do hope it gets better. thank you for your kind words
Specializes in Gyn Onc, OB, L&D, HH/Hospice/Palliative.
I'm just confused as I re-read this post, what you are looking for. You said your manager suggested you apply to non-surgical floors with post ops ?? What kind of nonsurgical units have postops ?. but then state you applied for surgical positions and were turned down and advised to pursue nonsurgical positions. Did you try med units?
I believe, when warranted, you can file a grievance above your manager, I have done it once, and it worked out great for me., upper management supported me completely. Unfortunately, in your case, I must disagree. I had years of experience on my side, and it was in response to being denied a vacation (total of 4 days off )I had every right to, no valid reason to be denied, followed all the procedures, even got casual staff to cover me and she still denied me, " just because you want it doesn't mean you can get it". She had previous grievances filed against her by many others nurses, doctors, just a nasty person. Of course she tried to make my life miserable after I had the nerve to go above her. I wouldn't have considered such a thing as a new grad.
You can always go to HR yourself and have them pull your file so you can see what is in there and find out if you are 'flagged'. I did so myself, nothing was ever in my file, switched depts, still work for the same place,( 8 yrs later)
good luck, but I think rockycreek has some good advice, or you may just need to leave altogether
Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
please all with experience in the following matter respond!
hello all,
i graduated nursing school with my bsn in may 08". i immediately took a job at a large,prestiges, hospital. 21/2 months into my preceptorship i went to my manager and told her that i did not think this floor was a good fit for me and would like to pursue another floor. she gave me her opinion that i should pursue non-surgical floors with post-op patients.at my facility one is to stay on there floor for a year before transfer.after speaking to hr i was granted an early transfer. this took place on oct.1. since then i have applied for 15 jobs! yes, it is my managers opinion that i should not work on surgical floors but that is not her decsion to make for me.
i began to notice that i was being turned down for position the same day or the next day of me putting up my application.when i would call the managers of the floor i was denied a job and asked them why they simply said,"we are interested in other applicants." the recruter for surgical floor positions must have gotten tired of seeing me name.she called me and said,"you might want to apply for positions that are not surgical.what about another hospital all together". she went on to say that," managers are a tight circle..they talk." what does that mean? i know what that means. i went to hr who in turn spoke to my manager who tried to assure her that she was not saying anything adverse against my character. i have so many reasons( the above being one)to not believe that.so ,i can get to the point i will not point out other evidence.
bottom line...
upper authority intimidates me. i am scared to approach her or any other upper managment with my alligations. i was always tought to stand up for myself but this manager can make my carrer hell? i have tried to talk to her and she does not return my calls or e-mails. i have no choice but to go to her manager. is it wise to go against managment? i am a new nurse and
i do not want to make waves. but she is interfering with my lively hood and taking oppurtunities away from me that i deserve.
you graduated five months ago and already you've decided that your first position isn't for you. you don't say why you decided this -- did you not like working with patients, were the skills too difficult to learn, were you having difficulty with critical thinking or dislike the team you were working with? or was it just harder than you anticipated? you haven't said. but given your manager's response, it seems that they didn't think you were working out for them, either.
the first year of nursing is hard. sometimes the second and third years, too.
your manager wouldn't have to say anything adverse about your character for other managers not to want to take a chance on you. after only 2 1/2 months, you're throwing in the towel. can they reasonably expect that you'll last longer or try harder in your second job? probably not unless you can offer some good, concrete reasons why the first job was a poor fit and the one you're applying for would be a better fit. as far as "approaching upper management with my allegations" -- now there's a brilliant idea! it will just make them even less likely to want to work with you!
the only person interfering with your ability to earn a living is you! you had an opportunity and are throwing it away. you may have already burned your bridges at this hospital. think long and hard about what you have contributed to the problems you're having before you take yourself off to another hospital. the only person you can fix is yourself, and no matter where you go, there you are!
GrumpyRN63, ADN, RN
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I would seek employment elsewhere. In hindsight, I think 2.5 months is really too soon to conclude you are in the wrong place. I probably would have sucked it up at least for 6 months to see if things changed. BTW, I would leave this off your resume, just get some references from friends/coworkers if you can