If hospitals require 85% BSN...

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Does that necessarily make ADN obsolete???

Supposing someone was in good standing with a Rehab Place as a CNA. Said person then gets an ADN and continues to work at said Rehab Place. Then the person attempts to apply at a Hospital.

How would having an ADN impact said persons chances of getting hired???

About being charge nurse and DON. They surely will not become the DON at any facility unless they already been working there for at least a few years. The DON at my facility went to the same school I went to for her ADN. She has work there for 4 years prior before an job open up for her to applied for the DON position.

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It depends where you live. In MN, after September of this year the hospitals will no longer hire ADNs.

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Specializes in Critical Care, Education.

It seems while nurses have been debating the 'BSN entry into practice' debate for decades, hospital employers have made the decision for us. But at this point, this is only affecting acute care (hospitals). ADNs & LVNs are still being actively employed in non-acute settings in my part of the country.

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Specializes in ICU.
Did you read where I put that I'm in Houston? If you live in Houston you would know. The LVNs that I work with use to work at hospitals before hospitals start requiring them to go back to school to get an RN. Now the ADN are require at leas an BSN to go to the big time hospitals in the medical center. Please read before you make any comments like that. I only mention Texans in general. The other LVNs that work with me have been applying for months and no one has hire them. Some have told me they stuck with the job because no one is hiring them. If they were then they would of left long time ago.

Blab all you want but lvn are no longer hired here in Houston at the major hospitals. Long term care, psych, and rehab places are the only ones hiring RN. The reason it is hard to find jobs is that the LVN that are currently working at those facilities are not quitting because they have a hard time finding jobs at other places.

Uh, yes, I read you were in Houston. I was merely stating the job market in CA is different because it was very impacted. You are still wrong. LPN's are not being phased out and yes they do work in those positions. Of course a new grad is not going to be a DON or charge nurse. That's a no brainer. No matter what field you go into, you need experience before going into management.

What are you doing to make yourself stand out in interviews. Seriously? It's very easy to sit there and say oh they didn't hire me because of my education. That is what people tell themselves to deflect the blame somewhere else. If your hospitals aren't hiring LPNs or ADNs then go get your education. Having more education is not a bad thing. But I guess it's easier to get on the internet and blame everyone else and not taking any responsibility. I did read your post and I don't need to be scolded on my response.

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No one here is blaming that they dont get a job at the wanted hospital because of education. You can not be an LVN here and hope to get into a major hospital anywhere in the medical center. Some have put ADN but prefer BSN. The ADN that are lucky to get hire have experience. I think the OP doesn't have that much experience. The only hospital here that I know that hire ADN are Memorial Hermann, St. Joseph, and a few other small hospitals. My friend whom got into a hospital in the medical center was lucky. Her mom knew the charge nurse that was working there. Kindred and smaller hospitals are the only ones accepting ADN. Indeed.com or monsters listed LVN for small facilities. The LVN are even having a hard time finding jobs. I work in my previous facility where 70% LVN. THey told me they hated their jobs, but the only reason they stayed was because it was so hard finding jobs at other places. Some have to drive nearly an hour. Some have been applying for at least 6 months. My other classmate whom is in here late 30s landed a very good job. The reason was that she had a bunch of experience as a secretary in the hospital and she was in the army. Just believe what you want. When I mean LVN being phased out, I mean from working in the hospitals that they want to work at.

The only reason the other LVN are finding jobs is because of experience. The op I believe is referring a newly ADN. Good luck finding a job here in Houston without knowing someone, prior working experience, or just lucky.

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I understand what you are all trying to say, I will take these comments seriously and will go for BSN instead...

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i have this eerie feeling you might be right.

For example,years ago many nursing homes in my area still hired Lpn's. The employment ads would say "Lpn's and Rn's apply".

But i noticed a few yrs ago that i started seeing "Rn's only apply here" for ltc facilities.

What changed? The supply of Rn's.

Adn's are going get the jobs held by lpn's yrs prior.

But then,it could go the other way too.

Some employers might not want to pay an Rn for what an Lpn can do for less.

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Specializes in ER.

It depends on your area. I think the 85% is if the facility is aiming for a magnet status. Some hospitals are not aiming to get magnet status anymore. I have noticed that hospitals are starting to prefer BSNs and not paying for further education such as a MSN for a floor nurse. My previous employer had a policy that would allow them to pay for a MSN but they stopped offering the tuition reimbursement beyond a BSN.

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Where I live Diploma schools are still alive and well. I can think of 6 of them within 50 miles of each other. The best one is attached to a top 10 US News and World Report University/Hospital System. It's super competitive and those RN's really know their stuff due to so many hours of lecture, demanding clinical instructors, reams of patient paperwork and rigorous simulations.

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Specializes in ER.

I think in my state we only have six diploma schools.

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Specializes in Nurse Scientist-Research.
I think in my state we only have six diploma schools.

Yea, in my (very large) State there is one. Most of the diploma grads I've met are from Canada, and I think those programs were phased out there.

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Specializes in ER.

There are a lot of diploma graduates in the area but they are experienced nurses. We used to have lots of diploma schools.

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