ICU RNs running CRRT?

Specialties MICU

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Hi everyone,

I'm curious to know if any ICU RN's out there are currently practicing in an ICU where they are called upon to do CRRT at the bedside. Currently, all HD/CRRT/SLED are done by HD RNs in our hospital, but there is an initiative to train ICU RNs to do CRRT (only). We have been told that the ratio for this assignment would be 1:1...

Just curious to know anyone's experience with this. Thanks in advance!

We do CRRT on my ICU. We set up and run it in it's entirety, based upon a set of preprinted orders. It's always 2:1, but they try to gmake your second patient fairly stable, although one that will remain on the unit so you won't have to have an admission. We have to take a class in it first, and be "checked off" before we can take a CRRT patient. I personally love doing it.

In our ICU's in my area, the pt is 1:1 and only the ICU RN can run the machine. The patient is usually very sick with multiple drips and ventilated so I do not see how an non ICU RN could run that machine while changing the settings to keep the pt stable.

Specializes in critical care.

CRRT is always 1:1 on my unit. What would you do if you were stuck in your other patient's room (perhaps elbow deep in a Code Brown) while the machine is alarming? As if the d*mn thing doesn't clot off enough already... :sarcastic:

Good afternoon,

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Thanks

Specializes in Interventional Cardiology, MICU.

Level I Trauma Center with 23 Bed MICU (my unit), CRRT's are run by our RN's as throughout the other units. HD are run by the HD RN's.

13 bed high acuity MICU at a level 1 trauma center and we run our own CVVH. Usually it's a 1:1 but with the fancy new machines we have, unless it's a super busy pt, they are starting to pair it. HD is still run by dialysis nurses though.

Wow I wish we could do these patients 1:1, we still have a patient load with CRRT. I've even see 1:3 with CRRT. I know that it sounds ridiculous, but it is true. No respect for nurses in this ICU. One day they will understand that this is unsafe practice; and we are a magnet hospital.

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Wow I wish we could do these patients 1:1, we still have a patient load with CRRT. I've even see 1:3 with CRRT. I know that it sounds ridiculous, but it is true. No respect for nurses in this ICU. One day they will understand that this is unsafe practice; and we are a magnet hospital.

3 to 1 with CRRT!? Very unsafe. One day it may cost a patient their life. BTW such staffing is not only NOT a suprise in a Magnet hospital, it seems expected and normal to me.

Specializes in MICU/STICU.

I work at two facilities, a level 1 trauma and a smaller community hospital, and in both units do ICU RNs run their own CRRT. The only difference is that in the smaller hospital, HD RNs are called to set up the machine/do filter changes while in the TICU we do it all. Always a 1:1.

Specializes in MICU.
RNs run CRRT on my unit, a 28 bed MRICU. These patients are only 1:1 if they are maxed on 3 or more pressors, have multiple blood products running, or some other special circumstance depending on how short staffed we are and which supervisor is on that shift lol. We can also have an open bed with CRRT, which gets a bit annoying if you get a sick admission or something is going bad with your CRRT patient.

I was also under the impression that all units had RNs running CRRT. The only thing we don't do is change the sets and do initial setup, that the HD nurses do

This is is our situation exactly in the level one trauma center I work at

Specializes in ICU, IR, PACU, CCRN, NE-BC.

Currently, ICU nurses run the CRRT machine. We use the NxStage One. For intermittent HD the dialysis nurse runs it.

The ICU RNs are responsible for the CRRT machines. We are "supposed" to take classes with the machine before being allowed to staff a bed with CRRT - however - that doesn't always happen. The patient's are always 1:1 with it. Regular 3-4 hour HD is done by HD RNs.

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