"I think I made a mistake" ... 30 y/o Dies after Attending COVID-19 Party

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A San Antonio doctor says a man in his 30s who thought the coronavirus was a “hoax” died from the disease after attending a COVID-19 party.

Dr. Jane Appleby, chief medical officer at San Antonio’s Methodist Hospital, says lately she’s been hearing about COVID-19 parties, which young people allegedly attend to see who gets infected first or who can survive the virus.

“One of the things that was heart-wrenching that he said to his nurse was, ‘You know, I think I made a mistake.'"

In its entirety: 'I think I made a mistake': Young man from Texas dies after attending COVID-19 party

It is imperative that we take all of this seriously.

On 7/14/2020 at 12:16 PM, A Hit With The Ladies said:

No more mask mandates. If you want to wear a mask, wear one. If you don't, don't. FREE COUNTRY. It's not that hard.

I am actually curious: what is the objection to wearing a mask in public?

As a general rule, we do things or don't do things all the time that are in the interest of public health and safety. Granted, covid-19 is a novel virus and our understanding of it is evolving. However, if the current evidence supports wearing face masks to prevent transmission, why is it so unacceptable to wear one?

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2 minutes ago, Simonesays said:

However, if the current evidence supports wearing face masks to prevent transmission, why is it so unacceptable to wear one?

Because we don't surrender our civil liberties based on the "current evidence". The current evidence says tobacco and alcohol are bad for you. Doesn't mean we go full-blown ISIS on those who partake in public health "vices". If you want to wear a mask, great, if you don't, that's on you. This is the American way. Live free or die.

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13 minutes ago, /username said:

Ah yes, staying away from fox to only post sources even more biased and editorialized. I'm sorry that I assumed you could have a discussion in good faith.

OFF TOPIC

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15 minutes ago, juniper222 said:

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It’s really not though.

you made assertions regarding Managment and information related to this pandemic. You were asked to cite sources. You then cited some of the most partisan sources that could be found. One of them has blatant partisan supporting (and truth ignoring) lies on its own home page.

citation of sources is a basic in healthcare. It’s not even a stretch to know the sources should be as neutral as possible. Yours were the opposite of that.

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57 minutes ago, Nurse GreenBean said:

It’s really not though.

you made assertions regarding Managment and information related to this pandemic. You were asked to cite sources. You then cited some of the most partisan sources that could be found. One of them has blatant partisan supporting (and truth ignoring) lies on its own home page.

citation of sources is a basic in healthcare. It’s not even a stretch to know the sources should be as neutral as possible. Yours were the opposite of that.

And you're absolutely right. Learning to identify a reputable source is something that is surely needed in many schools these days.

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Is there ANY evidence that these stories are not true? I think you are just avoiding the facts to deflect because it does not meet your tiny view of reality. Why? because Dr. Fouci is perfect and can see far into the future right?

It's a laugh that you claim my sources are biased when the lot of you cite biased sources. Oh but they tell the truth because they told me that.?

Any attempt to show Dr. Fouci is not perfect is met with scorn. That is not the way of an science minded individual and is dangerous thinking. What's next, arrest anyone who disagrees with you?

Dr Fouci HAS made some mistakes. It's not the end of the world because someone points it out. Don't so thin skinned.

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2 hours ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

Because we don't surrender our civil liberties based on the "current evidence". The current evidence says tobacco and alcohol are bad for you. Doesn't mean we go full-blown ISIS on those who partake in public health "vices". If you want to wear a mask, great, if you don't, that's on you. This is the American way. Live free or die.

Actually, that is a false comparison. Tobacco and alcohol only hurt the user -- not other people who may come in contact with the user. And there are restrictions on the use of both tobacco and alcohol when the effects might hurt others. For example, it is illegal to drink and drive. And it is illegal to smoke in some public places -- and individual establishments (e.g. restaurants and schools) can ban smoking within their facilities.

We also have laws mandating seat-belt use, stopping at intersections where there are stop signs, and all the other traffic LAWS that people obey willingly (usually) because they understand the need to keep people on the road safe.

There are also LAWS in health care that people obey in the interest of Public Health -- such as laws related to the dispensing of controlled substances -- and the need for people selling their services as nurses and physicians to be licensed, etc.

So it is simply non-factual to say that we as a society don't have laws that curtail our behavior and limit our choices in order to protect the public. We have many such laws that people accept and follow every day.

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12 minutes ago, juniper222 said:

Is there ANY evidence that these stories are not true? I think you are just avoiding the facts to deflect because it does not meet your tiny view of reality. Why? because Dr. Fouci is perfect and can see far into the future right?

It's a laugh that you claim my sources are biased when the lot of you cite biased sources. Oh but they tell the truth because they told me that.?

Any attempt to show Dr. Fouci is not perfect is met with scorn. That is not the way of an science minded individual and is dangerous thinking. What's next, arrest anyone who disagrees with you?

Dr Fouci HAS made some mistakes. It's not the end of the world because someone points it out. Don't so thin skinned.

There is no need or attempt to show that Dr Fauci is imperfect, he humbly admits as much himself. Dr Fauci is intelligent and competent enough to know that he doesn't know everything and is not expert in everything. He's said that out loud, under oath even. Dr Fauci is not the influential person who is modeling and promoting behaviors contrary to public health recommendations.

The issue isn't that Fauci is beyond question, it's that this is not the time for the top expert in infectious disease to get thrown under the bus for the unaccountable president. The American people need humble but scientifically sound voices in Trump's ear.

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54 minutes ago, llg said:

Tobacco and alcohol only hurt the user -- not other people who may come in contact with the user.

Secondhand smoke? Alcohol abuse doesn't affect others around them?

55 minutes ago, llg said:

can ban smoking within their facilities.

Sure, within privately owned facilities (e.g., Walmart, CVS), the owners can say "no mask, no service", if the proprietors so choose.

56 minutes ago, llg said:

So it is simply non-factual to say that we as a society don't have laws that curtail our behavior and limit our choices in order to protect the public.

Those laws cannot infringe on our natural liberties. The ability to breathe unimpeded by a mask or artificial device is one such natural liberty.

57 minutes ago, llg said:

We have many such laws that people accept and follow every day.

Just try locking up millions of Americans who are seen in public mask-less. See what happens.

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3 hours ago, juniper222 said:

https://710wor.iheart.com/featured/mark-simone/content/2020-05-12-Dr-anthony-faucis-15-totally-wrong-predictions-and-contradictions/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/list-Dr-faucis-11-deadly-mistakes-contradictions-including-worst-mistake-delaying-herd-immunity-destroying-us-economy/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/13/Dr-anthony-fauci-repeatedly-downplayed-coronavirus-threat/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/13/mick-mulvaney-Dr-anthony-fauci-was-wrong-about-mas/

https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=q85mdWI92Jg

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/fauci-fun-facts-Dr-faucis-aids-predictions-also-way-off-mark/

https://710wor.iheart.com/featured/mark-simone/content/2020-04-13-watch-a-timeline-of-how-wrong-Dr-fauci-has-been-on-coronavirus/

I'll stay away from Fox News reports just to make you happy.?

Anyone with a functioning brain that can think for themselves should realize that no one is perfect.

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January 2020 Dr. Fauci said, "The risk right now for the American people is low, but that could change."

https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=Lhy2FgkP0Yw

I am not sorry that I do not look to the "Gateway Pundit or Breitbart for medical or nursing guidance.

Regarding the wearing of masks this post was correct that no one is perfect. When it was discovered that people can carry the virus and infect others his advice changed with what we now know. We have since learned that wearing a mask decreases the likelihood of spreading the virus to others by a person who does not know he or she is infected and provides some protection for the wearer too.

Dr. Anthony Fauci explains the purpose of masks and why there's been so much back and forth around the use of masks to prevent the spread of COVID-19.

"Masks are not 100% protective. However, they certainly are better than not wearing a mask. Both to prevent you, if you happen to be a person who may feel well, but has an asymptomatic infection that you don't even know about, to prevent you from infecting someone else," said Fauci. "But also, it can protect you a certain degree, not a hundred percent, in protecting you from getting infected from someone who, either is breathing, or coughing, or sneezing, or singing or whatever it is in which the droplets or the aerosols go out. So masks work." So, why weren't we told to wear masks in the beginning? "Well, the reason for that is that we were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply. And we wanted to make sure that the people namely, the health care workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected."

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Of course, I too believe that we should wear masks. The reason I posted those stories is to show that Dr. Fouci has changed his advice from time to time. There are biased news sources all over the place, and many of them end up redacting stories because of outright lies. It is on both sides of the fence. It is very difficult to discredit a video of a person making certain claims, however. (although some have cut the videos short to keep in only what they wanted.)

When Trump said we don't need to wear masks during that time it was because Dr. Fouci advised so, and yet there are people who claim it is all Trump. Yes masks were in short supply at the time, however, for Dr. Fouci to say publicly that they were not going to help was not the proper course of action. Both Dr. Fouci and the Trump administration have made some mistakes, but that should be expected because we have never been in a situation like this before. After all, hindsight is 20/20 right? A surgical mask will not keep an airborne virus out, but it will help keep infected individuals from coughing it all over the place.

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Texas emergency doctor: State may need stadium-type venue to handle COVID-19 patients

... "Now that we've got so many cases coming up...at least a lot of the patients now are younger and not quite as sick -- but, because of the volume, we have a lot of very sick people too. So, we may have to go to the next phase of opening up something like a stadium," she said...

... Hospitalizations are also reaching record highs, with the state surpassing 8,000 hospitalizations for the first time over the weekend. According to the nonprofit COVID Tracking Project, Texas has more than 9,200 hospitalized patients as of Tuesday.

At least two counties announced that their hospitals had already reached full capacity, NPR reported Wednesday...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/texas-emergency-doctor-may-need-stadium-handle-covid-patients

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