How to Stop the Mass Nursing Exodus?

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Hi. My hospital is currently up for magnet renewal,  but we're losing staff constantly. I've even said myself that I can't do another COVID round, but it's here, and I'm still there while my co-workers are leaving and we're having to train staff that have never worked in acute care, because that's all we're getting. I've heard it's the same in many places. I'd like to gather some ideas on what it would take for you to stay, if you left.

Here are some things that pushed me over the top during our last covid surge, and some ideas on how the hospital might could help. 

* Having to transport an extremely sick covid patient to radiology because they were on over four units of oxygen while leaving four extremely sick patients on the unit that would not be looked in on or get their medication on time during the 40 minutes that we would be off the unit.

IDEA: I don't know how else to fix this one but more nursing or RT staff. We're already working short though. A resource nurse to help those that are drowning, or to transport when a nurse is required would help. 

*Trays left outside of covid rooms for 45 minutes when the nurses and techs are in other rooms and our covid patients who are already isolated and sad getting cold meals. 

IDEA: Hire more kitchen staff and TRAIN one of them to don and doff and deliver covid meals. 

*Full trashcans everywhere with isolation gear, in the hall, in the rooms, etc.. I try to empty them when I can but I've always got due and overdue medications and really don't have time to slow down. 

IDEA: Hire more ancillary staff to clean

If you left your nursing job, what would it have took for you to stay? 

"Nursing is not a difficult job IMO and 50/hour is 100kish which is just outlandish for the level of work required."

Just wow.  Prepare for crucifixion.....

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33 minutes ago, GordonGekko said:

$50 an hour for an associates degree?  Ummmm I don't know about that.  The $15/hour fight is nonsense.  We need to eliminate minimum wage altogether and let the invisible hand of the market work.  Read up on Thomas Sowell.

Nursing is not a difficult job IMO and 50/hour is 100kish which is just outlandish for the level of work required.

 

$28 an hour was amazing at the time as my previous job as a Paramedic I was making like $13/hour.

I can see now, you will have trouble keeping employees as you seem driven to keep wages down. WE are definitely worth 6 figures a year, those of us working full time in this nightmare.

And good luck not hiring obese or others. IF someone can prove discrimination, they will for sure.

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5 minutes ago, maji2002 said:

"Nursing is not a difficult job IMO and 50/hour is 100kish which is just outlandish for the level of work required."

Just wow.  Prepare for crucifixion.....

$100,000 is a lot of money.  $60,000 is more than fair for the level of work required especially considering most jobs are 3 days a week/36 hrs.

Specializes in MSN, FNP-C, PMHNP, CEN, CCRN, TCRN, EMT-P.
1 minute ago, SmilingBluEyes said:

I can see now, you will have trouble keeping employees as you seem driven to keep wages down. WE are definitely worth 6 figures a year, those of us working full time in this nightmare.

And good luck not hiring obese or others. IF someone can prove discrimination, they will for sure.

Im working full time in this nightmare.  My ER isn’t really any different than it was prior to Covid.  16 hour waits in the lobby, hallway beds, 3 day holds in the ER, full 5-6/1 patient ratios including ICU level patients.  That has been going on since I first started working there in 2010.

11 minutes ago, GordonGekko said:

Im working full time in this nightmare.  My ER isn’t really any different than it was prior to Covid.  16 hour waits in the lobby, hallway beds, 3 day holds in the ER, full 5-6/1 patient ratios including ICU level patients.  That has been going on since I first started working there in 2010.

You are part of the problem.  Just because things haven't changed much for you and you are willing to accept low wages and unsafe patient conditions, you will perpetuate the status quo.  Sounds like a nightmare on a good day for the patient, and yet you are satisfied.  Says a lot about how you care for patients.  What you described is sick.

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15 minutes ago, GordonGekko said:

Im working full time in this nightmare.  My ER isn’t really any different than it was prior to Covid.  16 hour waits in the lobby, hallway beds, 3 day holds in the ER, full 5-6/1 patient ratios including ICU level patients.  That has been going on since I first started working there in 2010.

So what are your employees worth to you then?

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9 minutes ago, maji2002 said:

You are part of the problem.  Just because things haven't changed much for you and you are willing to accept low wages and unsafe patient conditions, you will perpetuate the status quo.  Sounds like a nightmare on a good day for the patient, and yet you are satisfied.  Says a lot about how you care for patients.  What you described is sick.

The wages aren’t low.  Nurses are compensated very well.  It’s why so many people switch to this profession later in life.  You really are part of the problem where people think their services are worth more than they are.  
 

Nurses are being compensated very well throughout this pandemic.  Look around at the contracts available.  I already work 80hrs/week and have been thinking of picking up a little more as a regular RN bc the wages are so high right now.  

9 minutes ago, SmilingBluEyes said:

So what are your employees worth to you then?

Depends on supply and demand.   What are people willing to work for?

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11 minutes ago, GordonGekko said:

Depends on supply and demand.   What are people willing to work for?

Low wage employers are discovering that now...how do you think it's going? Turns out lots of people aren't willing to risk illness to work in a low wage job that doesn't cover living expenses with no benefits and no job security.  Go figure. 

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4 hours ago, GordonGekko said:

$100,000 is a lot of money.

Not these days...

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Please stay on topic: How to Stop the Mass Nursing Exodus?

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If we are to stay on stopping the exodus, this is much broader than COVID is then. At least I think so.

Thank you.

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On 8/19/2021 at 11:33 AM, GordonGekko said:

The wages aren’t low.  Nurses are compensated very well.  It’s why so many people switch to this profession later in life.  You really are part of the problem where people think their services are worth more than they are.  
 

Nurses are being compensated very well throughout this pandemic.  Look around at the contracts available.  I already work 80hrs/week and have been thinking of picking up a little more as a regular RN bc the wages are so high right now.  

Depends on supply and demand.   What are people willing to work for?

Well we will see as supply becomes less, so demand should go up. Therefore your ridiculous idea of 100K wages (in most markets) becomes less viable as time goes on.

100K Is NOT a lot when it comes to the risks taken to be a nurse, especially these days. Demand will way outstrip supply. In some markets it already does. Are you in an overage market?

SO my question still remains unanswered. What is a good nurse worth to you should you indeed go into business?

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