Eh, I'm going to get flamed for this, but here goes. My supervisor is going back to school for her BSN. She's been in school for about a year now, but hasn't done too many essays or papers. Why not? Because she has the nursing staff doing her school work for her. I have no idea how she manages to pass since different people have different writing styles, but whatever.
I'll admit, I wrote one paper. I'm against cheating and I cringed while doing it, but the "I'm 60, how can my school expect me to learn APA at my age" talk won me over. I have a soft spot for people like that (my mother was the exact same way but never got to finish school) but now my supervisor is asking me to do a whole research project . I need to tell her no, but I'm not really sure how.
I already told myself I will never help her cheat again, but now I need help telling HER that without succumbing to her "I can't do this, I need you" speeches.
Newboy, seriously? You have your MSN and you are willing to put your career/livelihood on the line for this 60-something dishonest, manipulative manager? Does she have something on you? Because that's the only scenario under which any of this makes sense.
A Masters-prepared RN willing to sacrifice their career for a low-level manager?
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LOL...she'd better pray her prof. doesn't check her paper for plagiarism. It's easy to do that now; there are programs that can check for it. If she gets caught, she can kiss that MSN buh-bye.
People actually WRITE the paper. It's a whole big underground business. I read an article about it a couple years ago.
So when you pay good money, you actually get original papers, not plagiarism.
I am curious to know why someone with an MSN is employed in a subordinate position to an RN without the BSN.
She's been a supervisor here for years - way before I started working here. A new DON came aboard so now my supervisor is under a lot of influence to go back to school and obtain her BSN.
Newboy, seriously? You have your MSN and you are willing to put your career/livelihood on the line for this 60-something dishonest, manipulative manager? Does she have something on you? Because that's the only scenario under which any of this makes sense.
A Masters-prepared RN willing to sacrifice their career for a low-level manager?
Very, very sad. And quite unbelievable.
Willing to put my career on the line? No. That's why I said I would never do it again. Unfortunately, I can't change the past. It happened. Do I feel terrible? Yes. All I can do now is say "no" and I've received some great responses on how to do just that.
Where were you when I was in school? I can't recall anyone ever being free and easy with the academic help, but then I wasn't going around seeking others to do my work either. I just hope you can get this resolved without too much fallout.
Specializes in MCH,NICU,NNsy,Educ,Village Nursing.
No sympathy re: APA formatting. There are software programs out there now that do it for you 100% and are 100% accurate.
As someone currently in school, the idea of people cheating to get the same thing I am working my butt off for really ticks me off. I would strongly encourage you to make an anonymous report to her school. This is so disgraceful it is unreal.
Amen! I struggled/worked hard for every jot and tittle in my papers. The thought that this person would find it okay to help, let alone the supervisor think it's okay to cheat is just beyond my comprehension. Whatever happened to integrity? Is the nursing profession void of that now? Sheesh......
Amen! I struggled/worked hard for every jot and tittle in my papers. The thought that this person would find it okay to help, let alone the supervisor think it's okay to cheat is just beyond my comprehension. Whatever happened to integrity? Is the nursing profession void of that now? Sheesh......
I never said I thought it was okay to help her cheat. Obviously it wasn't okay, but what's done is done. All I can do is learn from my mistake and, as another poster stated, hope I don't crash and burn if there's a fallout. I don't condone cheating. I know it was wrong. As for my supervisor thinking it's okay... well, that's her demon.
Specializes in MCH,NICU,NNsy,Educ,Village Nursing.
I never said I thought it was okay to help her cheat. Obviously it wasn't okay, but what's done is done. All I can do is learn from my mistake and, as another poster stated, hope I don't crash and burn if there's a fallout. I don't condone cheating. I know it was wrong. As for my supervisor thinking it's okay... well, that's her demon.
However, your actions spoke louder than your words, by your very actions you were condoning. But, you do seem to have learned...Be ready to face negative consequences and don't be surprised if they're there.
I never said I thought it was okay to help her cheat. Obviously it wasn't okay, but what's done is done. All I can do is learn from my mistake and, as another poster stated, hope I don't crash and burn if there's a fallout. I don't condone cheating. I know it was wrong. As for my supervisor thinking it's okay... well, that's her demon.
There will no doubt be fall-out. I'm just sorry that you are not willing to pro-actively rescue yourself.
. I need to tell her no, but I'm not really sure how.
roser13, ASN, RN
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One last try:
Newboy, seriously? You have your MSN and you are willing to put your career/livelihood on the line for this 60-something dishonest, manipulative manager? Does she have something on you? Because that's the only scenario under which any of this makes sense.
A Masters-prepared RN willing to sacrifice their career for a low-level manager?
Very, very sad. And quite unbelievable.