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How come people portray nursing so negatively on here?

Posted

Specializes in Case Manager. Has 4 years experience.

It seems like a majority of the threads are about how BAD nursing is and not how good it is. I'm currently a student and chose nursing for the following reasons.

-Job security

-Well compensated (to me at least; I have never made over $8.50 an hour)

-Flexibility

-The fact that your job actually makes a difference.

I don't get how a job you have to get a degree for can be so negatively portrayed. It can't be THAT bad, can it?

People come here to vent. When things are going well, they don't feel the need to express themselves so much. They are happy doing other activities. This board is free therapy for many.

NurseFrustrated

Specializes in Med-surge, hospice, LTC, tele, rehab.

Yes, unfortunately it is that bad. At least being a hospital nurse is that bad. There may be other nursing jobs outside the hospital that are better though. I've only ever worked in the hospital. I am looking for different jobs at the moment. I was like you when I was a nursing student...excited, hopeful, thought I could make a positive difference. I was disillusioned quickly though. It's something you won't understand until you are a nurse.

I agree with the aptly named NurseFrustrated. I got tired of staff nurses making comments about "the real world," as a student nurse. But I was doe-eyed, hopeful, enthusiastic and a perfectionist as a student. We had the time to be, and hopefully the instructors to back us up. No time for disillusionment just yet. The truth is, when you set for yourself a very high standard of care and have a good work ethic, finding that you're never able to meet your own standards is very very depressing to say the least. Not to mention the backstabbing and cruelty from management, co-workers, doctors, patients, family... etc..

Spikey9001, BSN, RN

Specializes in Case Manager. Has 4 years experience.

People come here to vent. When things are going well, they don't feel the need to express themselves so much. They are happy doing other activities. This board is free therapy for many.

This is understandable... but it seems like people use therapy A LOT on here!

link51411

Specializes in Critical Care, Cardiology, Hematology,. Has 5 years experience.

Nursing is a job and people love to complain about their jobs. nursing is hard im often tired i do not live the "swt life". However, I enjoy what I do, as soon as I get really upset with my job it seems like i have a husband call the unit to thank me or a letter from a family member to let me know how much they appreciated everything i did for their mother. it is what you make it people seem to get such an experiance from a mission trip or giving their time at the nursing home or church but as soon as you get paid for it people start complaining. Nurses that complain all the time most likely would complain about any job that they had. ive done yard work, taught tennis and golf, been a waiter, bar tended and its the same everywhere. heck my dads a successful surgeon and complains about his job. stick to it and have a good attitude and yes you can make a difference. its more so the lifestyle that i think they are upset with. they work, go out and drink, sleep around, dont get married, get a couple STDs along the way, maybe take some diet pills which trash their hormones because they dont have the self restraint to not eat Mackers (Micky Ds) and or get some sort of physical fitness in the day. Id be upset with my life/job also.

EmergencyNrse

Specializes in Emergency Medicine. Has 17 years experience.

I find many new grads or students come to whine & complain.

-They were looking for the "brass ring" and thought nursing was just

drinking coffee and giving shots.

-They thought everyone was going to get 50.00/hr to start.

-That there is a shortage of nurses and jobs would fall in their laps.

The reality:

That this is a JOB. You have to work really, really HARD to be good.

Nursing school isn't easy either.

There is a reason experienced nurses are paid more and you have to pay your dues.

Oh, I know I'm just scratching the surface here but they are just a glimpse of what I read from those trying to make it. Nothing worthwhile comes easy. They just wish it

was different...

Orange Tree

Specializes in Medical Surgical Orthopedic.

It's a LOT harder than it seems when you're a student. I still love what I do, but I really had no idea what I was getting myself into.

Nursing is a job and people love to complain about their jobs. nursing is hard im often tired i do not live the "swt life". However, I enjoy what I do, as soon as I get really upset with my job it seems like i have a husband call the unit to thank me or a letter from a family member to let me know how much they appreciated everything i did for their mother. it is what you make it people seem to get such an experiance from a mission trip or giving their time at the nursing home or church but as soon as you get paid for it people start complaining. Nurses that complain all the time most likely would complain about any job that they had. ive done yard work, taught tennis and golf, been a waiter, bar tended and its the same everywhere. heck my dads a successful surgeon and complains about his job. stick to it and have a good attitude and yes you can make a difference. its more so the lifestyle that i think they are upset with. they work, go out and drink, sleep around, dont get married, get a couple STDs along the way, maybe take some diet pills which trash their hormones because they dont have the self restraint to not eat Mackers (Micky Ds) and or get some sort of physical fitness in the day. Id be upset with my life/job also.

I'll start with the word "complain" and go from there - I won't say we don't gripe, but a lot of the posts I see are not necessarily complaints, they're stories from disheartened nurses who wanted to get along with their co-workers, do right by their patients, and having staffing that allows for the care they intended to give.

The assumption that the "complaining" nurses would complain about any job is just asinine. On the contrary, much of what is bothersome to many nurses is that we aren't given the opportunity to do as great of a job as we wanted to do. There are various reasons for this, but the point remains - it's not the hatred of hard work that gets many of us down. Sure, we all know nurses who would rather sit in the dictation room and read a magazine or file their fingernails than answer a call bell, but those aren't the nurses you're reading "complaints" from on here: these are hard working, caring individuals who want to help and do the right thing, and can't stand that the often fall short because of circumstances beyond their control.

And your assertion that these nurses are all trampy, slovenly Big Mac toting couch potatoes who drown their sorrows in Bacardi is just plain offensive (not to mention absurd!) I'm sure I needn't defend that statement, as others will follow suit.

nursynurseRN

Specializes in TELEMETRY. Has 12 years experience.

It seems like a majority of the threads are about how BAD nursing is and not how good it is. I'm currently a student and chose nursing for the following reasons.

-Job security

-Well compensated (to me at least; I have never made over $8.50 an hour)

-Flexibility

-The fact that your job actually makes a difference.

I don't get how a job you have to get a degree for can be so negatively portrayed. It can't be THAT bad, can it?

Well lets just say that you really do work for your money..... most days! it is not ALL negative but a lot of it is

NurseFrustrated

Specializes in Med-surge, hospice, LTC, tele, rehab.

Nursing is a job and people love to complain about their jobs. Nurses that complain all the time most likely would complain about any job that they had. ive done yard work, taught tennis and golf, been a waiter, bar tended and its the same everywhere. heck my dads a successful surgeon and complains about his job. stick to it and have a good attitude and yes you can make a difference. its more so the lifestyle that i think they are upset with. they work, go out and drink, sleep around, dont get married, get a couple STDs along the way, maybe take some diet pills which trash their hormones because they dont have the self restraint to not eat Mackers (Micky Ds) and or get some sort of physical fitness in the day. Id be upset with my life/job also.

No, actually that's not true. I HAVE had jobs in the past that I've liked. I don't complain about every job. Maybe you work in a good unit. If so, good for you. The unit I am currently on is terrible. I have stuck with it for a year. I have tried good attitudes. That doesn't work in a toxic environment. Yes I am looking for another job as we speak. And no, I can't just quit. I have bills to pay. I don't know what the rest of your post is implying. That people who have terrible nursing jobs sleep around? Eat McDonald's all day? Are you kidding? Did I misunderstand? :confused:

funny... you sound exactly like me BEFORE i entered nursing school... you even have the same reasons including the feeling like our job makes a difference..

In my honest and humble opinion, it all depends where you end up working that either makes or breaks you. You can either really love your job or really hate it.

I think you may end up being one of the disillusioned

-Job security

-Well compensated (to me at least; I have never made over $8.50 an hour)

-Flexibility

-The fact that your job actually makes a difference.

To me, this is backwards. Job security is not as "secure" as you think it is, and if you read many of the posts on here, people are fearful of losing their job for honest, simple mistakes, lack of resources or as a result of lateral violence. If you look in the blogs, over the summer a seasoned RN wrote about the experience of job-hunting in middle age. Also check out the hundreds of posts from frustrated new grads who can't find a job.As for compensation, I agree with you there, having a similar background of pay scale. But, those that are well compensated are also well-educated (CEUs and higher degrees aren't free) and well-experienced. Flexibility depends on how flexible YOU are; want to have days off, don't mind working holidays when the rest of your friends and family enjoy their federal 9-5er holidays off? For people that aren't used to Christmas just being Wednesday, it can get old pretty quickly. As for your job making a difference, that is my personal #1. And I don't need to save a life, make a miracle diagnosis that 12 MDs missed, etc. I just need to know that someone in a bad place had a little less of a bad time because I helped them. I have 4 aunts who all counseled against my going into nursing. They were from the era of lots of poop, less resources, less respect and little pay. I can SMELL the hospital when I take an exam, I can feel the lighting and hear the sounds when I study. I changed my life to pursue this career, and I'd do it for less than the $24.25! (Aunt J would die) starting hourly rate in my area; but I deserve to get paid.

Here's my caveat- I am a student and graduate this December. So my attitude might change after I've been working for a while. If I can get a job............

This site is a good resource for nurses and also a place for nurses to vent. When I have had a bad day at work I love to look back at post to know that I am not the only one. It's hard to talk about it to ppl who are not nurses bc most of the time they don't understand just how stressful your job is. If it wasn't for this site, I don't know that I would have ever made it as a new grad. It felt so good to come to this site and see I wasn't the only one. I almost quit my first year out of nursing school. I have now been at the same job for 2 1/2 years and have adjusted fine. In my 2 1/2 year as a nurse I have learned that nurses work very hard in a very stressful environment. Sometimes no matter how hard you work at the end of the day there is a pt, NA, Dr, family, or someone upset with you. A lot of pts who deserve the TLC from nurses don't get it bc of the pts who take up all of your time for non sense. I honestly feel nurses are over worked and underpaid. The real world of nursing is a lot different from nursing school. Yes the demand for nurses is high, but a lot of times as a new grad unless u go through a new grad program, it is hard to find a job without exp. Also, from one specialty to another, without exp it can be a lot more difficult than one would think to get hired. I recently told my husband "nursing is not as rewarding as people think it is." With fewer pts, decreased workload, more help, etc. I could possibly give a lot more of my pts the TLC that I would love to give and that I know they deserve. As a new grad I hated it when ppl questioned why I wanted to be a nurse or tried to talk me out of it. I wish I knew then what I know now. Good luck.

Brauer

Specializes in Pediatrics.

Well, can I say I'm not here to complain, but instead, praise this career and the rewards it offers over the alternative. I've been an RN for just shy of 5 years now while working on a very busy Pediatric med-surg floor, but previously worked for years doing the typical 5 day, 40+ hours/week desk job which I can say felt pointless and unsatisfying at the end of each day. Now full-time for me is three days a week, which affords me time to enjoy life outside of work instead of trying to cram it in over the weekend, a decent salary, job security, and the opportunity to make a difference in the lives of others which has availed the type of gratification that no previous job had provided. Sure, I have the occasional shift where I want to strangle a clueless resident or crazed family member, or am so slammed that I can't wait for the shift to end; but then, I have 3-4 days off to enjoy my real life while most everyone else is slaving away behind a desk. To me, it's all a matter of perspective and working in an area of nursing that sustains you. If you're burnt out where you're at, try another facet of nursing, or a different hospital. That's another great thing about our profession, the lateral opportunities that exist.

Ok, feel free to stone me for having it so good. :)

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Ayvah, RN

Specializes in Med Surg, Specialty. Has 10 years experience.

Nursing is a job and people love to complain about their jobs. nursing is hard im often tired i do not live the "swt life". However, I enjoy what I do, as soon as I get really upset with my job it seems like i have a husband call the unit to thank me or a letter from a family member to let me know how much they appreciated everything i did for their mother. it is what you make it people seem to get such an experiance from a mission trip or giving their time at the nursing home or church but as soon as you get paid for it people start complaining. Nurses that complain all the time most likely would complain about any job that they had. ive done yard work, taught tennis and golf, been a waiter, bar tended and its the same everywhere. heck my dads a successful surgeon and complains about his job. stick to it and have a good attitude and yes you can make a difference. its more so the lifestyle that i think they are upset with. they work, go out and drink, sleep around, dont get married, get a couple STDs along the way, maybe take some diet pills which trash their hormones because they dont have the self restraint to not eat Mackers (Micky Ds) and or get some sort of physical fitness in the day. Id be upset with my life/job also.

Have you even gotten off orientation yet to be able to know what it is like to be an actual RN on your own? According to your information you just recently graduated and started your job.

For me there is simply no comparison between any of the other jobs I've held, and hospital nursing - where you are in charge of someone's life and don't always have the staff and resources to properly do your job. You can bet I'll make a bigger stink over not having any christmas trees on the unit(this happened) versus running out of paper in my old job, for example. You'd do well to educate yourself on how nurse patient ratio directly affects death rates in the hospital, and maybe then you will see how you need to help advocate for your fellow nurses instead of trash them.

Nursing is just a job that we all punch in and punch out of, just like all other laborers out there. The greatest thing about nursing is only having to work 3 nights a week, and having 4 days off. And when you get sick of that, you can always use your PTO and take a breather. :) It's not as bad as it sounds. just remember, you're just an orderly there to carry out orders. Clock in, take care of business, then clock out; and leave work at work.

I work long-term care and absolutely love my residents. Some of the families are great, others are one big pain in the ass - and I don't mean with legitimate complaints either, but they want one on one care which is not possible. They don't realize and don't care that Grandpa tried to get up 15 times by himself so far this shift setting of his safety alarms which irritated the other residents to the point that one of them hit another one and now there are all the reports to fill out. That Grandpa wouldn't eat this morning and we offered him many substitutes until finally he ate a banana and drank some milk, and he wasn't about to take the meds he so desperately needs. That he whipped out his penis and peed all over his bed and clothing and we just got him changed and back in his chair, turned to take his dirty clothes to the laundry and he stood up and started walking (though he refused to walk with therapy 10 minutes earlier). We got him back in his chair and took him into the day room where he promptly grabbed another resident's Ensure and spilled it all over himself, including soaking his shoes, so we changed him again. So here you come, complaining that he doesn't have his handkerchief in his pocket or his shoes on and we don't take good enough care of him. Do you think he gives a rat's ass if he has a handkerchief or not? I am sorry, but he doesn't even remember what to do with a handkerchief. We try to make sure it is in his pocket because it makes you feel better, but give us a break some days! We have spent more time today with your loved one than with all of the other residents combined, you just weren't here to see it!