How to call a provider at 3 am

Here's a brief, useful tip sheet for calling any PA, NP, or doctor during the wee hours of the morning. Nurses General Nursing Article

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I've worked nights on and off for about 10 years- I have many stories from calling providers in the middle of the night, good, bad and funny.

Bad story:

My patient status post-GI surgery complains of chest pain at 4 am, I call the intern and no response, CP worsens so I call the rapid response team. I was yelled at for not calling the intern first and wasted rapid response time. After I persisted something was wrong I did a repeat EKG and she was having an MI.

Good story:

After accidentally calling an attending he laughed and said I made him feel young again! He advised me on what to do and asked I pass it along to the intern covering.

Ugly:

Being screamed at for calling an on-call Dr and waking up his baby...

Worst:

When I called to get a med order corrected, a Dr told me "how dare a nurse question a physician's orders"

Here is my simple list of what to do at 3 am

1. Know who is on call. I once paged a surgical attending at 3 am instead of the intern! Luckily the attending thought it was funny and was very kind about it.

2. Have your data ready when you call: Why you are calling, last set of vitals, last labs, I/Os, etc. Don't assume the person you are waking up at 3 am is instantly going to know which patient you are talking about or if they've ever seen the patient

3. Check your orders to ensure you don't have what you already need- PRNs, labs, NPO etc

4. If you're not sure about something check with a more senior colleague, they are a wonderful resource

5. If you are not getting a response from a provider don't be afraid to go up the chain of command, it's there for a reason!

6. NEVER apologize for calling a provider; everyone is on the same team and caring for the patient, it does not matter what time you're calling with patient care concerns

7. ALWAYS repeat back what the provider says to confirm; you can hear some funny things after you woke someone up, I've even had a doctor fall asleep on the phone with me!! It's always awkward if you have to call back 10 minutes later to clarify an order.

8. SBAR- it works, use it, love it, and it cuts down on communication errors.

9. If someone is being inappropriate when you called- screaming, swearing, berating or refusing to call back; report the person to the appropriate person. This behavior should never be tolerated

10. If dealing with the person mentioned above in #9 remain calm and professional and report them to the appropriate management

11. Creativity and problem solving can go a long way on night shift and prevent the need to call anyone. If your patient is constipated and has not GI meds ordered, take them for a night time stroll, give them prune juice, etc. If your patient is anxious, sit down and talk to them for a while. Sometimes talking can go a lot further than any meds. Even if it's asking your patient about their kids or dogs or their job.

Patient care and safety always come first, never be afraid to call the provider. To make everyone's job easier and for the best possible patient care. The night shift is there for a reason. Patients crash on night shift and have unexpected needs, don't feel bad, take care of your patient.

From your friendly neighborhood night shift nurse practitioner

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
I do too although as someone getting woken up all hours of the night I appreciate the compassionate RN who apologizes for waking me. I always say "never a problem!" but appreciate their acknowledging they are waking me up and feel it also indicates they were being thoughtful about the need before they called. I know its my job but just saying common courtesy goes a long way.

I love the original post as well, although I will say that apologizing for calling someone at 3am is the social grease that makes the call go more smoothly. No, you're not sorry (and if you've followed all of the steps above, you shouldn't be) for calling, but you might feel just a teensy bit badly about having to wake someone up from a sound sleep, or immediately after they've gotten to sleep after baby-wrangling, or just as they were falling asleep after being in the OR for 16 hours . . . . It's not a bad thing to start your call of by saying "I'm sorry for having to wake you . . ." It gives them an extra second or two to clear the fog from their brain and understand who they're talking to.

Of course, I did once accuse my father of being a pervert when he called me at noon after a busy night shift (my night shift, not his) and when I didn't immediately recognize his voice, he told me he used to change my diapers. I got huffy and hung up on him. My father thought it was funny and told everyone he knew . . . that story still comes out on holidays even though Dad is gone now.

I love this so much, thank you! I remember calling the attending at 2am for a nonemergent situation but it was something that needed to be addressed asap. He called me back within 5 minutes and I freak out and apologized as soon as he answered. He told me to chill out and that he was in the middle of watching the game (could hear the tv in the background.) I'm super grateful towards those types of docs. Unlike the time where I had a patient that needed to be intubated and transferred to ICU; I called the attending to make them aware (without realizing it was a direct cell phone line so I dialed twice.) He answered the phone and immediately started yelling at me, that I waking up his whole family blah blah and then he put me on hold because someone else was calling him. It was the house doctor on the other line. Thank god I didn't have to finish that conversation. :x

Some great tips, but I do have to disagree with #6. I would HATE to be woken up at 3am (or even 10pm!) if I were on call, so "Hey, I'm so sorry to have to call you this late" is not inappropriate. Yeah, it's his or her job, and responsibility to take call, but it still sucks. Having the common courtesy to acknowledge that working 12-24 hours, THEN having to be on call for another 12 is rough does not demean us.

That said, I get where the OP was coming from.

Specializes in Medical Oncology, ER.

don't call for scd's at 4 am lOl

This was great. Thanks

Specializes in Emergency.

I will use text pages for things like med requests or anything straightforward and leave my number so they can call with more questions. That is typically easier for both of us.

I am not sure how it is everywhere else, but where I work (ER) we do an increasing amount of putting the orders in under the physician's name. Mainly for ER patients but sometimes for admitted patients as well. The order is entered by us but "ordered" by them.

Specializes in med-surg, med oncology, hospice.

I agree with the earlier posts. Other things that I have done before I called the doc in the middle of the night is to try to anticipate what orders he might give to assist him. If I have a newly confused patient, I usually take his O2 sats and if diabetic, a finger-stick glucose. This helps the doc with his dx. Also, when mentoring new nurses to the shift, I state there are 3 times to call a doc-immediately, before you leave in the morning, or leave a sticky note for the doc on rounds. If nothing can be done about whatever, why call at 3 a.m.? If it is more a FYI call, call before you leave. If it is a cover-my-ass call, when I call I let the doc know. If the patient is the one who wants him called when I think it could wait, such as that sleeping med, I tell the doc that also. If you are wanting an order, such as the foley, give the facts first, and then ask. Internists don't like to leave standing orders, like the surgeons do. Internists like to be called. And if your hospital has a rule that the doc must be notified when some parameter (VS or lab) is above or below said number, and the doctor knows about it, get a new order to call the doc on a different value. If he knows that the hct is low, why call him every time? Ask him for a new order not to call unless it is lower than the current value as you 2 work on getting his hct up. Anytime you can save having to call the doc, he appreciates this and knows then that when you call, there is a reason for it-not to just call him.

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).

didn't even read the post but the title got me thinking of a call I made to a Dr, in the wee hours of the morning, He took the call sounded a bit sleepy and I heard a clink sound and the unmistakable sound of a man urinating in the toilet. After we were done speaking I apologized for having to wake him and he said "That's ok I had to get up anyway:roflmao:

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