HELP! I got dismissed from my nursing school

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The school is a private school and this is what happened.

It was my last day of clinical (and last 6 months) and I was supposed to shadow a nurse in the emergency fast track (basically a department dedicated for non emergency care). When I was put there, there were no patients around because the department just opened. So what we did was just talk and after a while she started working on her paper work. This lasted for a good 20 minutes until our first patient arrived.

Unfortunately at this point, I was very tired and I came inside with the patient. Everything was fine, I told the patient I was very tired because I stayed up the night before working on a paper and that today was my last clinical. After that was done, the nurse again started working on her paper work. Again, I just sat there for like almost 10min.

Finally she got up, ready to give a shot to the patient, and I immediately followed her but she told me to stay. After this, she came back and that was the end.

We sat for another half hour doing absolutely nothing. I even went to every patient room to look busy and went to the bathroom to clean it but still I had a great deal of free time. I sat on my chair again, and again started looking very tired. After the shift finally ended my nursing instructor came down to relieve me.

Unfortunately, the nurse told my clinical instructor what happened. My clinical instructor was furious, and a long story short she than told the dean. And then during my clinical evaluation they failed me.

I still don't understand why. I was tired, that was all. They forced the nurse to write a report about what happened, and by force I mean the dean calling that nurse several times for nearly 2 weeks until the nurse finally wrote the report.

Under why I failed it stated because of inconsistencies in performance, and paper work. However, all my paperwork was fine. I passed with everything with at least B's. The same applied to performance. I argued and argued but no avail.

Last week the V.P. of academic affairs gave me my final appeal decision which was that the nursing committee decision stands. Her final decision is "had the POTENTIAL to put patients as risk".

This doesn't make sense. If I wanted to, I could have just told the nurse I am feeling very fatigued and I need to leave. We as nursing students have every right to do that if it may endanger a patient. But obviously that was not the case because I chose to observe that day rather than having a patient assignment, as did others because it was the last day.

I am furious. I want to sue under breach of contract, (nothing states I cannot come to clinical being tired) and being arbitrary and capricious in their decision.

Any advice?

What do I need to prove to win?

Please help.

Additional details

  • All charges against me have been false. From paperwork to performance (have weekly clinical evaluation forms that state I was performing well. I passed all paperwork as wel.
  • I was in the ICU earlier that morning, without incident. Under the watch of many medical personal. No one complained.
  • The nurse report stated "his eyes were closing, nodding off, and jerking himself side to side to stay awake". It does not say I fell asleep. Allegations which the department said I did.
  • I have other nursing students who wrote for me stating that they observed others being extremely tired to clinical. And displayed similar behavior themselves. But no consequences, because obviously it was a onetime thing. (Just like my incident).
  • I was never warned, it was out of nowhere. Previous landmark decisions in court have stated that students are entitled to be told of their inferior performance, in order to improve. I was not told this. And again documentation states I was progressing well.
  • Nothing is objective. Nobody say me physically sleeping. It's one nurse assumption that I was very tired. The school is interpretating the incident as me putting a patient in danger. Impossible seeing that I had no patient assignment.
  • I was merely an observer.

I haven't read through this entire thread, but something I haven't noticed thus far is any mention of a gender issue. Something I would encourage the OP to consider is the nature of the postings thus far... by gender. I suspect I may invite some criticism for this comment, but I think it may be prudent to give some thought as to whether or not you may be caught in the midst of some gender bias. Obviously, nursing is a female dominated field. Some of our female colleagues appreciate the male interest, and what they bring to the profession, others probably don't care one way or the other, and then there are others that deeply resent the male "intrusion/invasion." What I wonder is what kind of a role any of this may have played in the situation you currently find yourself in. After you (the OP) carefully assess this dimension of the matter you may want to reassess whether nursing is really the calling you feel led to pursue. Again, I would encourage the OP to evaluate the spirit and nature of the responses he has received thus far, and decide for himself if he thinks gender bias may have played a role. btw... some men also have their issues when it comes to welcoming women into traditionally male dominated careers. Just a thought.

Specializes in ER/Ortho.

We were told at the beginning of our program that we need to get enough sleep the night before clinical. Its really hard because we have to pick our patient out the day before, and do a mound of paper work. Anyway, we were told if we come to clinical, and nod off or even look like we might they will send us home, and it will be considered an absence. In addition if they hear that you have not slept at least minimal amount of a few hours they will send you home regardless. Your only allowed to miss one clinical day so if your tired more than that your screwed.

This isssue with being dismissed from clinicals etc.............

This may not be a simple act of our replys as "eating your young"

You must understant that as clinical instructors we carry . When a student does wrong, therefore I do wrong. Clinical locations are getting harder and harder to obtain. If you or one of your students screw up, you have lost that clinical site for the entire program. It is not easy being a clinical instructor, there is some hostility out there from the floor nurses, and if they don't like you, you lose the site for the program.

If the OP does happen to still be checking out this thread consider this option; if you have successfully completed 3 semesters, check in your state and see if you can sit for the NCLEX-PN. Then you could work as a nurse while you decide where to go from here and when you go for your RN again you won't have to "start all over"...just a thought...:nuke:

Noah, the guy fell asleep. And after declaring that he nad always been prefect in clinical, he said that he had been spoken to at mid-term for having been late three times.

I don't believe this is gender bias. I believe this is person with attitude and a cavalier approach to clinicals bias.

Specializes in Medsurg/ Psych.

Some nursing programs are like little fiefdoms, run by little tyrants who enjoy putting the screws to certain people. I went back to my alma mater where I had earned a BFA in 1981. I had an emotional attatchment to this school and figured since I had a Batchelor's degree I should go ahead and get another. It was a very difficult time for me. My husband was unemployed. My sons were 6 and 10. We had moved from Northern California to the Mississippi Gulf Coast just so I could go to school, and then get a job to support us before the money ran out. It was VERY hard for me. I became physically ill at the thought of failure. The stress level was so intense. My performance was effected to the extent that I often struggled to keep it together during clinicals. The instructors saw I was a mess and went for the juglar. I joke now and say, "I had a 5"10' blonde up my butt for two semesters." But it was awful. At the end of the second semester, I was called in by an instructor and told I was out of the program. A nurse on a floor where I was gathering information for a clinical the next day said I was "huffy and in a hurry." Which wasn't true since I made a point of being professional; I mean, I had on the lab coat and the dress shoes! I didn't argue with the faculty. The worst part was going home to tell my husband. There was so much riding on my getting a license and a job. It was the worst day of my life. For the whole summer, I moped around not knowing what to do. I worked like a dog as a tech on a tele floor at the hospital on the night shift. I got to know some nurses who had graduated from the ADN program in town. Then one day it occured to me, go apply and see if they'll let me in. They did. I had to start at the second level. The program cost 1/4th what the BSN cost. Even with repeating that semester, I was way ahead financially. I got a wonderful enducation and graduated only six months late. Now, my husband got his job back, I've been working as a nurse for two years, and we are better off than we ever would have been if I had given up. The moral of the story is: If you want to be a nurse, go find a program, get in, graduate and get your license. Don't look back and don't be bitter.

The best revenge is living well. :yeah:

Let's face it dude, you ****** up. Unless you kiss their ****, and suck it up; as a male you are history. I had a clinical instructor, over 25 years ago, tell me with 4 hours to go in a clinical that I was failing. After having my peers write letters that I had done everything they had done and threatening to sue the *****, she passed me. Women run this profession and always will, it sounds jaded and and ***** but it's just the facts.

Specializes in LTC, Psych.

I too am a little shocked at some of the snarky posts. But I suppose we all have our opinion, which is helped shaped by our own life's experiences.

I don't think you've mentioned the entire story, but let me play devil's advocate anyway.....

Why did you feel the need to tell your patient that you were so tired? Were you having a conversation that made the topic come up? I've shared with patients before certain personal details to let them know I in fact do relate to whatever it is they are talking about. I feel that doesn't take the focus away from them, but rather helps establish a personal connection. So many patients often feel nurses are "perfect", that we aren't real people with real problems, and therefore, couldn't possibly understand what they are going through.

Secondly, I get the whole tired and unsafe thing. But what about the nurse who's working while dealing with a migraine? Or the one who's going through a divorce? What about the nurse whose teenager just ran away? The one who was recently diagnosed with a disease? Their parent/spouse recently died? Are these nurses in any better shape emotionally & physically to care for patients? Not everyone is able to check their problems at the door.

If you have told the whole truth and nothing but the truth, you got a raw deal. Yes, you behaved inappropriately and not making immediate ammends and acknowledging your mistake probably cost you a lot. A firm reprimand with remediation should have sufficed. If it's one thing I have learned in school....it's the smell of poo on the end of my nose. I am humble and my instructors are always "right". Yea, it forces me to back down on my convictions, but in the end, I will graduate.

I wish you the very best. Try to stay positive and keep reaching for your goal.

Noah, the guy fell asleep. And after declaring that he nad always been prefect in clinical, he said that he had been spoken to at mid-term for having been late three times.

I don't believe this is gender bias. I believe this is person with attitude and a cavalier approach to clinicals bias.

Yeah that.

Those of you who are complaining about the snarky comments--did you notice this part of the guy's story? That he had already been reprimanded? That his performance in clinicals had previous left something to be desired? That he actually sent another student to confront his clinical preceptor? Do you think he really got canned from a program, out of the blue, because he looked a little tired on his last day of clinicals? Seriously?

I haven't read all the previous comments and I'm not sure anybody has mentioned this but- dude what were you doing staying up for a paper? that sounds like procrastination to me. I have clinical in the afternoon and I force myself to have a coke or something to keep me awake and alert if I didn't get enough sleep the night before.

Anyways, what is done is done. I don't think you really have legal recourse so I suggest re-applying to another school. If this new school asks you why you did not finish at the previous school tell them you were in disagreement with their clinical policies end of story.

For the future, be super nice and amicable to any nurse/tech you are working for/with/under because friendliness goes a long way.

You are totally correct, if a person is an *******, people can't wait until that person mess up to terminate them, however, if that person is nice and sweet and try to get alone with everyoney, then people will go out of they way to help them to be successful, thats way it s important to learn how to work with different kinds of people. Just the fact that the people want to sue, because they made a mistake tells all about a person charactor.

Specializes in telemetry, med-surg, home health, psych.

No. 1- You had no business discussing your "tiredness" with the pt.

you should have splashed cold water on your face and kept your mouth shut....last day, should not have been a problem...but we all make mistakes so don't let this stop you....

Now.....take the semester over again and leave this alone.....

just my .02

Good point aloevera..

I am anticipating my last day of clinical in 101 ..I think I would be SOOO excited that its the last day ...and maybe a little sad (more excited though lol)

I think this topic has been :deadhorse

I think had he said ..yeah man i screwed up ..this topic wouldve ended a long time ago, but his arrogance just adds fuel to this thread.

Anyway gobble gobble everyone :hrnsmlys:

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