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This is really not to put any profession down but I've dreamed of being a nurse for soooo long, now only to discover that before entering my LVN program, I have to get the CNA title first! I am horrified of having to do some of the tasks described! This is not whaat I dreamed of all these years, I was thinking more along the lines of changing newborn diapers, not old folk diapers! CAN ANYONE BRING ANY CONSOLATION?
Well I never said I didn't understand why people commented as thay did. I just feel my honesty was misunderstood! It is possible to be an outstanding nurse without making LTC a living, fine if you find it rewarding, remember different strokes for different folks... it just doesn't seem like it's for me! Sure I will be a better nurse for it in the long run, but I cannot see myself having to change "briefs" ok, not diapers, all day long. I feel my best contribution as a nurse would be in another department. Thanks to all the responses, no matter how harsh. It has opened my eyes, but I'd still rather be in L&D or somewhere else... sorry for the BRUTAL honesty if it offended anyone!
ROFLMAO...
Honey,
Sweetie,
Kiddo.... lemme tell you something.
I have been a CNA for five years and am now working my way through nursing school. I have done SICU, CVICU, Postpartum, Labor and Delivery, Breastfeeding Education, Burn, and Pediatrics.
Guess what?
THERE'S ALWAYS POO. It's the great leveler. (Honestly, what do you think happens when a woman squeezes an 8 pounder right past her colon???)
And if you are getting your LPN and NOT continuing straight on for your RN? You can forget about working in the nursery! You can forget about working in L&D. Those jobs are few and far between and the hospitals are getting rid of them. Guess where you get to work as an LPN... either LTC, or in the hospital in Med/Surg or Burn Med/Surg. Possibly Psych... where, not only will you deal with poo, you will have it FLUNG at you.
For those posters who don't think it's necessary to get your CNA to become a nurse, well, yeah, that's true. But boy has it been helpful to have all of this experience. I spent my first set of clinicals answering basic questions for my fellow students because they had no hospital experience.
As a CNA you also get to watch the nurses and decide what kind of nurse you want to become. I had one nurse in antepartum scream at me because I didn't have a bed changed. She informed me that changing beds was not in her "scope of practice". I reminded her that EVERYTHING in MY scope of practice was in HER scope of practice!
I hate snotty nurses who think they are above the dirty work. The smartest, best clinicians I knew would always jump in with everybody else. And in the ICUs, almost every CODE BROWN I attended would have several RNs assisting along with me!
To the OP: if you ever end up in the labor & delivery department, you will be cleaning up stinking adult poop. Laboring women are often defecating and pooping all over the table during lady partsl births without even being aware of it, and it will likely be your job to clean it up. In addition, L&D departments tend to have an earthy, unpleasant smell due to the smelly placentas, old blood, lady partsl secretions, etc.
It was not my intention to be graphic or offend any person with this post. I was merely relaying my observations from time spent in the L&D departments during clinical rotations.
I Was A Cna In A Ltc Facility For A Few Years Before I Went To Nursing School And I Worked As A Tech On The Med/surg Floor. I Think The Experience Really Helped Out In Nursing School. You Can Learn So Much About Patient Care And Usually There Is Always A Wondrerful Nurse Who Remembers What It Was Like To Be In School Who Will Give You Advice And Try To Teach You Something.
Take Your Cna Course, Go To Nursing School And Follow Your Dreams!
In nursing, everyone has some task or other that isn't up there on their list of favorites. Including changing briefs. My suggestion... if you find something that you notice you'd rather not do - to the point of spending more time finding someone else to do it, rather than do it yourself.. then force yourself to do it. Get good (and fast) at it. Do I love cleaning up poop? Course not. But I do it, and I do it well and quickly. Patient appreciates it, and it's overwith. Then I'm not worrying about it anymore, because it's done.
For the poster who said "that why they have CNA's, right?" in reference to why nurses don't change briefs.. um NO. We have CNA's because patient care and nursing has required ever more paperwork, JACHO tasks, etc that has taken nurses from the bedside. All of this stuff is in the RN scope of practice, but cannot be in the CNAs. CNA's do much basic care that allows RNs, then, to meet requirements for documentation, accredidation (sp?), etc. The other alternative would be to lower the ratios to allow nurses to do it all, and to facilities, hiring CNAs is cheaper.
Make no mistake - every single thing in a CNAs scope of practice is also in an RNs scope. And the bottom line is patient care.. ALWAYS.
I think that we have been harsh on EACH OTHER. The original poster stated that she didn't realize that she had to change poo as a nurse. Another CNA who stated that she enjoyed her patients for the most part, but hates certain aspects of it. Bottom line is that they are being honest with their feelings whether we like it or not. Nursing does ask that we look into ourselves and see how we feel about certain situations or clients. We have to be honest with ourselves also and know that even as incumbant, caring nurses, we do not walk around 24/7 being so 'nurseier than thou' that we have a halo around our heads and harps in our hands with each person that we encounter. Venting is therapeutic and helps us to cope. Maybe the original poster realized that nursing is not for her. Or, maybe she may decide to be a nurse that is a bit more removed from most of the dirty aspects of the job. We have nurses that go high up the food chain in order to avoid changing crap. ANd, my brief experience as a nurse has shown me that at times, we may have a person that is a staunch advocate on one thing, but intentionally negligent in another. Not saying that anyone here is this way because we don't know each other...but I have seen those change poo and then decide not to give pain medication because it became too involved.
All I am saying is that let's just tell people who feel like this the real deal and not assume that this is a person that is not compassionate. It may be because they were not placed in the situation to extend themselves, yet, or realizing just how far that extension sometimes goes.
it is kinda unpleasant of course, dealing with POOP n all but reality is... its part of nursing... but just the thought that you're helping them out and makin them feel better is what matters most... juz imagine they are ur family members.. ur grandparents...maybe even think.. this pt could b you someday.. u would want someone to take care of you and clean u up...they are embarassed enough that ur gonna hav to do it for them... because at one point in their lives.. they were able...now tell me.. what made you dream to be a nurse?
chadash
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One thing CNA work can do is build character. That's not such a bad thing.