Have you heard of this type of grading before?

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So I just found out last cohort 10 people were dismissed from the nursing program ......turns out that in this program they don’t drop you as you go along they wait until the very bitter end (graduation) to tell you that you actually failed the program and can not continue . Is this normal for nursing programs ? Why not stop and talk to a student and give them a heads up ? Why the surprise ? And why 9 students ? Now I’m really worried 

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12 hours ago, Zamzam said:

Now I’m freaking out, is a letter grade on a transcript enough ? 

LOL

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It is the students responsibility to seek feedback throughout the program and keep track of their grades.

a situation like this happened at the local community college but it turns out the students had been caught cheating.

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20 hours ago, vintagegal said:

It is the students responsibility to seek feedback throughout the program and keep track of their grades.

a situation like this happened at the local community college but it turns out the students had been caught cheating.

I read an article recently that cheating has been rampant through COVID because of people testing at home.  I must say, it would be perfectly easy and completely undetectable for our class to be cheating on every single exam, and I’m sure it is happening. 

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On 8/10/2021 at 9:30 PM, Zamzam said:

Yes we do get our grades back each time and a syllabus...... I really don’t understand how they were able to waste two years of their lives without any intervention makes no sense makes me wonder if I’m failing and have no idea about it either ? 

If you're getting your grades back, have a syllabus, and know your facilities grading policy and passing score requirement then you should have no problem in determining whether or not you're passing a course or the program. 

As an aside, it's not the instructor's responsibility to seek out failing students to provide an intervention. The students are adults and, as such, are held accountable for seeking out counseling, advisement, learning interventions, etc. based on feedback received such as grades, final course grades, transcripts, etc. 

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On 8/17/2021 at 8:49 AM, sleepwalker said:

 

As an aside, it's not the instructor's responsibility to seek out failing students to provide an intervention. The students are adults and, as such, are held accountable for seeking out counseling, advisement, learning interventions, etc. based on feedback received such as grades, final course grades, transcripts, etc. 

Yes. My idea is that they knew they failed each individual exam and quiz, but somehow thought they were going to pull out a pass in the course. But the professor doesn’t have to call you mid-semester and give you a warning— you just look at your own grades and have some sense of whether they’re high or low. And if you need a 70 to pass, but you think you have somewhere between 65 and 75 but aren’t sure, you take the initiative to set up a meeting. 

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The advice about keeping track of your grades is reasonable for an adult learner. If you are marginal or have concerns about this issue for yourself, get yourself into office hours every week to keep from falling behind. 

If you’re not one of the ten, then you can’t really know what their status or grades really were. It’s not actually any if your business. I find it beggars the imagination that people suddenly fail at the end completely out of the blue without some history of j-u-u-u-s-t squeaking by in the past.

Nursing instructors are teaching because they want to pass along their knowledge and professionalism to the next generation. Of course, being human, they are individuals and some not so great, just like there are all kinds of high school teachers, loan officers, carpenters, or anybody else. They do NOT go into teaching c a plan to make students miserable. They do take the responsibility to turn out safe entry-level practitioners very, very seriously. 

Fact is that every program has one or more of those marginal students who are not making that goal, and however horrible and harsh it sounds, if they can’t pass nursing school they can’t be nurses. Students themselves are not qualified to make that assessment no matter how often they tell each other “You’ll be an a-maze-ing nurse!”

I know how you feel, really. I’ve been a student, new grad, staff nurse, clinical specialist, and faculty; you are at the beginning of that list. I can promise you that in about 10 years you’ll get it. Meanwhile, find out what you, yourself, need to do and don’t worry about others. 

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The update is they have now changed the grading system they will drop students as they go along. I don’t really understand it since everyone gets their grades back or what they were actually counting ? I guess I’ll never know. 

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7 hours ago, Zamzam said:

The update is they have now changed the grading system they will drop students as they go along. I don’t really understand it since everyone gets their grades back or what they were actually counting ? I guess I’ll never know. 

I don't know which school you're in, but it's very very rare, for me, it's first time I heard it, not to keep the records of their students. If people aren't wondering there was no presentation of their grade during their midterm, quarterly or semester, they really deserved to be dropped after 2 years. I'm not the most intelligent in the corner. However, I'd ask after the first term is ended unless I've never been tested. Or, I'd ask why there is no grading system if it didn't exist.

Are you paying for your program?

I can speculate any experience nurses can train trainees if there was no need for formal education.

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