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Group One Blacklisting in Texas

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Hello to everyone! I was recently placed on the legalized loophole blacklist entitled "GROUP ONE." An HCA facility has retaliated against me for being a whistleblower. I have a lawsuit against them and it's been going on for a little over a year. Anyway, i would like to know if anyone would like to join me in putting a stop to this type of employer abuse. Many careers have been ruined over this group one entity. If your boss submits your name and negative comments regarding your termination, no hospital in DFW will hire you unless they are desperate. In the event that you do get hired you will be treated like crap and will be under constant surveillance. Isn't there a nursing shortage? Let's do the math...nursing shortage percentage? total amount (%) of nurses on the blacklist and blackballed? hmm...curious? me too. I will be fighting this by myself or with all of the nurses out there who have been a victim of this type of retaliation. All the nurses in Texas should fight against this regardless if you are on this list or not. Things could change for you tomorrow. These hospitals are bullies and sometimes it takes just one person to get the ball rolling...I guess I have hired myself for the job. This abuse is so ridiculous and makes me embarrassed to be a nurse in Texas. If you are a bad nurse...dangerous...incompetent that would be a legitimate reason to have issues finding employment or having this information on your group one report. The State Board will handle your situation. In my case, because i refused to resign my director was forced to terminate me. He gave me the option to resign and NOT be placed on group one/blacklisted. He also stated that if he had to terminate me then he would have to submit the reasons for my termination on a group one report/therfore being blacklisted. This is career suicide and you can say bye bye to working at any hospital here in DFW. The point is that this service is used maliciously by employers and has spiraled out of control. Please share your experience with group one or employer threats regarding group one.

roser13, ASN, RN

Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho, ASC. Has 17 years experience.

You say that you were terminated because you were a whistleblower - what reason did the facility give for your termination/blacklist?p.s. There really is no nursing shortage, so there is no incentive (from that perspective) to end Group One.

classicdame, MSN, EdD

Specializes in Hospital Education Coordinator.

have you sought the advice of an attorney? There is a whistleblower act for nurses in Texas.

Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma. Has 40 years experience.

There is no nursing shortage right now and that is why employers get to get away with this kind of behavior. HR department do this everywhere just not so openly. I would seek legal advice...if you don't sign here you' be reported here..... Isn't it Texas that won't hire overweight nurses??? I thought everything's bigger in Texas. :rolleyes: It an employer's market they can pretty much do as they wish......this is just another shinning example of why I am more convinced that nurses nationwide need to join together like police/firefighters and teachers.

Has the Nursing Shortage Disappeared?

Has the Nursing Shortage Disappeared?

there is no nursing shortage right now and that is why employers get to get away with this kind of behavior. hr department do this everywhere just not so openly. i would seek legal advice...if you don't sign here you' be reported here..... isn't it texas that won't hire overweight nurses??? i thought everything's bigger in texas. :rolleyes: it an employer's market they can pretty much do as they wish......this is just another shinning example of why i am more convinced that nurses nationwide need to join together like police/firefighters and teachers.

has the nursing shortage disappeared?

has the nursing shortage disappeared?

it's not "texas" which won't hire overweight nurses, it's one hospital in texas which won't hire a nurse with a bmi at or over 35.

you are right, there is no nursing shortage in texas in general, though i can't speak to rural areas or some of the smaller towns which may have more difficulty attracting qualified candidates.

HouTx, BSN, MSN, EdD

Specializes in Critical Care, Education. Has 35 years experience.

Hold on there Skippy - Group One participation is confined to the DFW area, so it's doubtful that nurses in any other part of the state would be interested. I'm certainly not in support of it - it just feels shady to me; like it should be illegal from a restraint of trade standpoint or something. If I have been accurately informed, Group One is used for all health care employees - not just nursing staff, so it may be a good idea to garner wider support from everyone who could potentially be affected.

Texas has very strong legislative support for health care whistle-blowers as a result of the Winkler County case - which was ultimately decided in favor of the nurses in question. So - if the OP's termination was in retaliation for justifiable whistle-blowing, there is ample legal recourse... which it seems that is already in progress since there is already a lawsuit in effect.

Esme, HR departments don't fire people, Managers and supervisors do. HR is only there to manage the process and make sure the paperwork is taken care of. Question- what makes you think that teachers, firefighters and police officers have a nationwide labor organization??? If they are employed in an organized labor (union) environment, the contract is always locally negotiated. If you are referring to a professional organization, nurses already have one.... its called the ANA. Are you a member?

nurse2033, MSN, RN

Specializes in ER, ICU.

Can you give some more information about Group 1? Who owns them? Are they private, public? What is their purpose? Thanks!

nurse2033, MSN, RN

Specializes in ER, ICU.

Can you give some more information about Group 1? Who owns them? Are they private, public? What is their purpose? Thanks!

OK I did a quick search, they appear to be background check company that focuses in health care. Therefore they would have a financial interest your reason for being fired so they can sell that information. I'm guessing that if a company uses their services they would also be required to report on terminations, but that's just a guess. Otherwise, what incentive would your employer have to tell them? Maybe they get a fee for doing so. Let's hope this company doesn't go national. Have you contacted them? I'll bet they would be required to tell you what they have in your file. That way, if it was incorrect, you could apply to amend the information. I would grip my teeth and give them a call and see what your options are. I agree that this sucks, good luck.

thanks for all the replies. at this point group one is a dfw metroplex nightmare . it's not just nurses, but healthcare employees across the board...so that is correct. good advice about trying to reach more healthcare employees and not just nurses.

the following is just a little info from their web-site:

[color=#c0504d]topic: group one services[color=#c0504d]http://www.gp1.com/

[color=#c0504d]"group one services is a consumer reporting agency" operating under the legal authority ofthe federal fair credit reporting act ([color=#c0504d]fcra[color=#c0504d])."

this provides employers the ability to share information on former employees through a third party reporting agency such as group one." blackballing!

[color=#c0504d]"founded by the dallas-fort worth hospital council in 1988 to meet the healthcare providers' - and only the healthcare providers' - constantly changing needs in the areas of criminal background checks, salary surveys and employee termination data." blackballing!

[color=#c0504d]1. [color=#c0504d]we serve healthcare employers exclusively.

[color=#c0504d]2. get instant access to applicant work history information provided by other clients upon termination and accumulated through primary verification." blackballing!

"do i have to give termination information? no, but it is important that facilities receiving termination information participate in a reciprocal relationship with our other employer clients."

and this is their (the employer's) smoking gun! do what we say or else we will put whatever we want to on your group one report!

i still can't believe how many nurses in texas have not heard of this entity??

hca healthcare employers are the main offenders without a doubt. if an employer wants to "get rid of you", they give you two options:

:thankya:1. if you resign, we will not "group one" you.:up:

2. if we have to terminate you, then we will "group one" you. :down:

the phrase "we will group one you," is one that employer's use in a threatening manner to intimidate the employee into a resignation. if the employee does not comply with the resignation process/suggestion then the employer will seek vengeance to ruin the employees' career via group one services. the healthcare employers can submit any retaliatory comments/statements regarding the reasons for the employees' termination. it is within their power and judgment to provide this data whether it is true or false. therefore, if your manager does not like you, he or she can blacklist you . this is an abuse of authority, unjust, and career suicide for a healthcare employee . i do not believe that ruining the careers of healthcare workers was the original intent of group one services. what i do believe is that healthcare employers have found a loophole via this particular system that has enabled them to hold their employees hostage to administrative and political bullying tactics.

i have researched this quite thoroughly and if you have any questions just "holler" :w00t: as we say in texas!

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roser13, ASN, RN

Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho, ASC. Has 17 years experience.

I'm still wondering what the official cause of termination was, as given by your employer.

Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma. Has 40 years experience.

It's not "Texas" which won't hire overweight nurses, it's one hospital in Texas which won't hire a nurse with a BMI at or over 35.

You are right, there is no nursing shortage in Texas in general, though I can't speak to rural areas or some of the smaller towns which may have more difficulty attracting qualified candidates.

You are right....I misspoke. I meant to say "isn't it in Texas". Nationwide there is a surplus with some areas less effected than others.

Nurse SMS, MSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care; Cardiac; Professional Development. Has 9 years experience.

Too many smilies. Can't read that.

Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma. Has 40 years experience.

Hold on there Skippy - Group One participation is confined to the DFW area, so it's doubtful that nurses in any other part of the state would be interested. I'm certainly not in support of it - it just feels shady to me; like it should be illegal from a restraint of trade standpoint or something. If I have been accurately informed, Group One is used for all health care employees - not just nursing staff, so it may be a good idea to garner wider support from everyone who could potentially be affected.

Texas has very strong legislative support for health care whistle-blowers as a result of the Winkler County case - which was ultimately decided in favor of the nurses in question. So - if the OP's termination was in retaliation for justifiable whistle-blowing, there is ample legal recourse... which it seems that is already in progress since there is already a lawsuit in effect.

Esme, HR departments don't fire people, Managers and supervisors do. HR is only there to manage the process and make sure the paperwork is taken care of. Question- what makes you think that teachers, firefighters and police officers have a nationwide labor organization??? If they are employed in an organized labor (union) environment, the contract is always locally negotiated. If you are referring to a professional organization, nurses already have one.... its called the ANA. Are you a member?

As a matter of fact I am NOT. I find it not beneficial and expensive. I never have particularly liked the ANA. I prefer to belong to my representing speciality the ENA. I have NEVER found the ANA of any particular use as a representative body but that is a personal opinion. I found their driving purpose out of touch and financially driven. I am leaning more in favor of National Nurses United, although I have never been a proponent of Unions.......until recently. I belong to the MNA. But that is a political stance. I don't argue politics nor religion. Where are you a member?

First, I didn't say that HR fired people. I said they gossip about employees/ex-employees that feeds an under ground communication system of gossips about employees and ex-employees. As a manager I have heard these conversations where there is active participation to "black ball" one person or another from one facility to another. Illegal? Yes. Does it happen? Absolutely. I am not saying all HR's participate in this amoral behavior but it does occur and is just as damaging as the Group One's reputation of blacklisting.

Group One just makes it legal.

Police officers nationally support each other and have one order. The Fraternal Order of Police.....and they are unionized.

The National Association of Police Organizations (NAPO) is a coalition of police unions and associations from across the United States that serves to advance the interests of America's law enforcement officers through legislative and legal advocacy, political action and education.

http://www.napo.org/

And the International Union of Police Associations

IUPA

Same as firefighters. They have individual collective bargaining units but they belong to a national organization. You are right.....I am not so sure about all teachers but public teachers are unionized. I believe the Unions are AFT and the NEA.

GitanoRN, BSN, MSN, RN

Specializes in Trauma, ER, ICU, CCU, PACU, GI, Cardiology, OR. Has 52 years experience.

therefore, what was the official cause of termination given to you by your employer at the end :confused:

I'm curious- if the employer offered you the option to resign and you were aware of the ramifications of the alternative why didn't you take it? I don't mean to say you SHOULD have, I'm just interested in your thought process.

I resigned my position to transfer to a sister hospital for which i had already been offered the position. The sister hospital told me to go on ahead and give my 2 weeks notice. a week or so prior to this i had an MVC and missed 2 days. The mgr told me that she needed a "body" not matte what and that even if i did come in and had to leave that i would still be considered absent. The 3rd day i was tardy after the mvc because i couldn't find coverage and could barely move but i called them and told them that i was not feeling well and that i would be late. So this was the final reason that they used against me to give me my 3rd occurence which means "write up" the other reasons were some tardies. Techinically i didn't have to go in for that 3rd shift because up to 3 consecutive shifts equals one occurence. But because i'm stupid I still went in but called in that I would be late. For this...i got written up when I could've just stayed home instead. So since i was "written up" my transfer offer was rescinded. I was written up after I had accepted this other position. The whole reason for my resignation was for the transfer...but my employer decided to take my resignation regardless and then stated that they weren't sure if my transfer would go through. Although the HR respresentatives had already made that determination by discussing my file. So here I am JOBLESS!

@Vespertinas: Are you referring to the whistleblower incident and my option to resign from that particular hospital?

If so well the bottom line for me is that I am not one to be bullied. I knew the possible ramifications but I wasn't going to stand there like almost every other person in this situation and be blackmailed. They committed things such as fraud but worse was the ordering of narcotics without even seeing the patients. They intentionally did not sign the orders and would want the nurses to administer these medications without a signature therefore without a primary physician to take responsibility. The nurses were told to give these medications and then were mandated to place the unsigned orders back into the physicians rack for another physician to assume patient care. UM...WRONG! So as far as i'm concerned i did the right thing. I'm a leader not a follower. Doctors nor suits and ties intimidate me when i know that i am right and everyone else knows that I was right by doing right by the patient. So...I do not regret my decision and I hope that I helped to save a life by speaking up. And all HR's in my opinion are for the employer not the employee. They are there to keep the hospital from getting sued by an employee. If you think that they are there to help you...well let's just hope that you do not have to learn it the hard way. So, yes my name is out there as of course a "troublemaker" or a "whistleblower." I like to think of it more as "I know my ****, " "you can't push me around," and "I will go toe to toe with anyone when it comes to my license and patient safety." I'm actually very easy to get along with. I get along well with all of my coworkers, i have a great rapport with my patients, but in reality all that really matters are numbers and money. OH...this company also labeled literally the patients wristbands with a colored marker to distinguish those with insurance and without... can we say EMTALA violation...you can't do that! So i'm very passionate about this and I won't back down from any of it. I am taking the blows but in the end they will be the one's in trouble and on the news. Just imagine for one second your family member being treated like this. It's really a bunch a ******** and they've got their hands full with me and they know it. That's why they are trying to ruin me but as far as i'm concerned they can BRING IT, because I was born ready. I'm not cocky folks, i'm just passionate and ****** off about how these employers bully US and i'm not going to stand for it any longer.

Thank you for providing some insight. By not resigning and choosing to get blacklisted instead, what do you feel you have you accomplished?