graduation rate

Love-A-Nurse · Nov 24, 2003

we have lost 85% of our original class. i am so thankful i am still in. it is very hard and intense, yet possible to complete.

jenrninmi, MSN, RN · Mar 28, 2004

At my school, down two nursing halls we have pictures of the past, I don't know, 20 years of students that graduated our program. The most recent pictures being of course, Dec 2003. I was shocked to see the decline in graduating students in December! I don't know how many started that class but mine started with 64 students. I didn't actually count the number of graduates from December, maybe when I'm there Tuesday I will, but it looked like 10-20 students. That's pretty scary.

Now, is it true that ADN programs have to pass an exam very similar to the NCLEX in order to graduate? My university doesn't. If this is true, then that could greatly explain the NCLEX pass rates between the ADN schools and BSN schools, meaning how some ADN programs have 90-something % passrates compared to 80-something pass rate for some BSN programs in my state. This is something we have discussed in my last SNA meeting and was curious if this was true with every ADN program. Probably unlikely since it seems every school differs greatly.

Jennerizer, ASN, RN · Mar 28, 2004

We started with 120 & lost about 40 the first semester. Since then pretty much everyone has been passing. Third semester is almost over. They tell us the second & fourth semesters are the toughest (med/surg and advanced med/sure)....so we shall see. Nclex pass rate is around 92%.

I remember at orientation they told us 1 out of 7 drops out. Reality is 1 out of 3 dropped out. Definitely find a few people to study with - if you don't understand something...ASK! It's not worth failing out. I know a few students that failed first semester & are back trying to pass it again.

epg_pei · Mar 28, 2004

...what I've gathered, and what I've observed, there's around an 80-90% graduating rate from our school. And just recently I've learned there's approximately 90% nursing exam pass rate. Nothing gospel here, just rough guestimates. But better than I had expected. Maybe there's hope for me after all :chuckle

RNSuzq1, RN · Mar 29, 2004

I realize that some people drop out for family reasons or they find out Nursing just isn't for them. I'm not in school yet and don't know what my Instructors will be like - but can't help but wonder if maybe some of the people failing aren't getting the proper training/instruction?

Just going by my previous College - I know some Professors/Instructors are better than others at teaching and usually those that are better at teaching have students that do really well in their classes. I know at my children's schools - if there is a large precentage of students not doing well in a particular class - they first look to the teacher and try to find out what's going on, why all the bad grades, etc.

Considering how hard it is to get into Nursing School - seems like those that do make it in should be really well prepared for all the Courses. Does anyone think that maybe some of these schools with high failure rates just need better Instructors - could that be the problem? Just wondering... :uhoh21:

jenrninmi, MSN, RN · Mar 30, 2004

Ok, checked today and in Dec 2003 there were 30 that graduated. I have no idea how many started in that class. I know they accept 64 each semester, but whether or not they actually started with that many, I don't know.

unknown99, BSN, RN · Mar 30, 2004

We starrted with 60, and now in the last quarter, are down to 42.

jenrninmi, MSN, RN · Mar 30, 2004

now, is it true that adn programs have to pass an exam very similar to the nclex in order to graduate? my university doesn't. if this is true, then that could greatly explain the nclex pass rates between the adn schools and bsn schools, meaning how some adn programs have 90-something % passrates compared to 80-something pass rate for some bsn programs in my state. this is something we have discussed in my last sna meeting and was curious if this was true with every adn program. probably unlikely since it seems every school differs greatly.

does anyone know if this is true?

twintoo · Mar 30, 2004

I am in my 2nd semester of a 4 semester RN. We started out with 77 people and we now have 53 (coudl be less because our school actually is at 3 different locations and we telecommute classes so I don't know if the other sites have had any drop out). Of those that are no longer in class one decided it wasn't for her and another one was admitted to the psychiatric ward of the local hospital after she stressed out so badly *from school*. The rest flunked out. This semester there are at least 3 from my school (remember there are 2 other sites besides my own) that *I* know of that are currently flunking.

They do say that our school has a 98% pass rate on the NCLEX. Also, JenRN2BE, in my program we do not have to take any type of special test to graduate. We just graduate and then go take our NCLEX. HTH

Nemhain · Mar 31, 2004

Now, is it true that ADN programs have to pass an exam very similar to the NCLEX in order to graduate? My university doesn't. If this is true, then that could greatly explain the NCLEX pass rates between the ADN schools and BSN schools, meaning how some ADN programs have 90-something % passrates compared to 80-something pass rate for some BSN programs in my state. This is something we have discussed in my last SNA meeting and was curious if this was true with every ADN program. Probably unlikely since it seems every school differs greatly.

Every person graduating from an accredited school (BSN or ADN) must pass the NCLEX in order to be an RN. ADNs take the same exact test to be an RN...the same test.

Nemhain · Mar 31, 2004

oops...sooo sorry jenrn2bmichigan! I misread your question!

to answer your question

I'm in an ADN program and no, we don't have to pass an NCLEX type of test in order to graduate. Also, I'm not aware of any school that does do that. :)

to answer the thread question:

My class started out with 80 and we now have 64 of the original class, but we got 8 people from last year's class that had to drop out or failed the course. I think the school's graduation rate is about 70%. ...that's not too bad.

jenrninmi, MSN, RN · Mar 31, 2004

Every person graduating from an accredited school (BSN or ADN) must pass the NCLEX in order to be an RN. ADNs take the same exact test to be an RN...the same test.

I know they take the same test. That wasn't my question. :rolleyes: My question is that in my state the ADN programs have to take a test similar to NCLEX before they graduate that is comprehensive and includes everything from the previous two years before they graduate. If they don't pass, they don't graduate. Thus leaving the only people that graduated to take the NCLEX exam. This would greatly explain the high pass rate for the NCLEX exam from ADN schools as compaired to the slightly lower scores from BSN programs. I was wondering if this was true in all states.:uhoh21: