Published Jul 21, 2004
TexasPoodleMix
232 Posts
I have been skimming through some posts and it seems as though lots of nurses get fired for no reason or because someone from management has it in for them (for lack of a better term). What my question is is this a common thing, do nurses run the risk of getting canned for no reason ?
I am planning on going into nursing and this disturbs me pretty bad !
Thanks in advance.
Brickman
129 Posts
Keep in mind that these post are from the person who was fired. I have never met anyone who thought that there was a legitimate reason for their termination.
I haven't been reading names, etc. just skimming. thanks for the reassurance !
Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN
12,126 Posts
It's possible that someone's telling the compltere truth about getting fired, just keep in mind though, there's 3 sides to every story.
RN4NICU, LPN, LVN
1,711 Posts
You also have to keep the larger perspective. What may seem like a lot of people here on the board is actually pretty rare when put into the nationwide pool of 2.7 million nurses.
txspadequeenRN, BSN, RN
4,373 Posts
This is exactly why I have been at my job for years. I have been there longer than all managment so they tend not to mess with the old-timers. But I sure have seen them pick apart the new nurses,god forbid you make one little error in paperwork.
Sheri257
3,905 Posts
Yeah, you always have to put message boards in perspective. If you solely rely upon this board, everybody in nursing also seems to hate their jobs. Then, if you look at other boards involving other professions, everybody else in non-nursing professions seems to hate their jobs too.
The internet is often a forum for the disgruntled to vent, but it doesn't always present an accurate picture of the entire population. Complainers are always going to yell, and post, the most.
And, as previously stated, since when does anyone admit that a firing was their own fault? Rarely.
Jailhouse RN
156 Posts
No, you have to do something to piss management off. A poor work ethic and attitude will help turn management against you. No you will not just be fired on a whim.
Then, if you look at other boards involving other professions, everybody else in non-nursing professions seems to hate their jobs too.
Very, very true !
mattsmom81
4,516 Posts
In an employment at will state someone can be fired for any reason or no reason at all...except of course they cannot violate discrimination law.
Nursing is one of those jobs where they teach us very high ideals in school, then turn us loose in a system that makes us accountable for all these lofty goals but doesn't give us what we need to accomplish it. Speaking out honestly about poor working conditions has gotten lots of nurses fired and I've observed it frequently over the past 20 some years..and yes it happened to me once too. My own fault? Yeah I guess I should have just shut up and taken the abuse, like nurses have done for generations.
There's good and bad to nursing...and nurses who are not 'yes men' to the CEO's bottom line plan are generally not rewarded. It took me 10 yrs to figure out the CEO didn't want the same things I did...although he SAID he did. Someone here had a tagline which was so right on target...amazing how being a good nurse was so at odds with being a good employee.
Sorry to sound bitter / jaded, but the above has certainly been MY career experience. I'm still in nursing, so its not sour grapes rather an honest asessment from my life experience. Those of you who haven't run into this kind of stuff should consider yourselves fortunate, IMO. It's fairly well known in my parts with anyone who's been a nurse awhile.
Forewarned is forearmed so lets not sugar coat things for those considering nursing as a career. Just because someone was fired doesn't mean they are not good nurses.
barefootlady, ADN, RN
2,174 Posts
Thank you MattsMom, I too have seen much in my over 20 years of nursing. I do think that management often develops the Us vs. Them attitude with employees who are vocal about problems that could be solved easily but are low priority on administrative totem pole. Like after hour drug deliveries, poor staffing, mandated overtime, etc. If a nurse rocks the boat, is not always a team player, then given enough time they can find a way to get rid of her/him. The policies in many hospitals are just vague enough to allow for this type of activity.
leslie :-D
11,191 Posts
In an employment at will state someone can be fired for any reason or no reason at all...except of course they cannot violate discrimination law.Nursing is one of those jobs where they teach us very high ideals in school, then turn us loose in a system that makes us accountable for all these lofty goals but doesn't give us what we need to accomplish it. Speaking out honestly about poor working conditions has gotten lots of nurses fired and I've observed it frequently over the past 20 some years..and yes it happened to me once too. My own fault? Yeah I guess I should have just shut up and taken the abuse, like nurses have done for generations.There's good and bad to nursing...and nurses who are not 'yes men' to the CEO's bottom line plan are generally not rewarded. It took me 10 yrs to figure out the CEO didn't want the same things I did...although he SAID he did. Someone here had a tagline which was so right on target...amazing how being a good nurse was so at odds with being a good employee.Sorry to sound bitter / jaded, but the above has certainly been MY career experience. I'm still in nursing, so its not sour grapes rather an honest asessment from my life experience. Those of you who haven't run into this kind of stuff should consider yourselves fortunate, IMO. It's fairly well known in my parts with anyone who's been a nurse awhile.Forewarned is forearmed so lets not sugar coat things for those considering nursing as a career. Just because someone was fired doesn't mean they are not good nurses.
thank you for 'coming out'...as i too was fired for whistleblowing on pt. conditions...which got my facility a few citations and deficiencies. and if you don't have a contract or union, they can pretty much fire you w/o cause.
it's a hard lesson to learn since you don't want to stop doing the right thing but don't want to be fired for it either....even though i would do the same thing all over again.
leslie