Help getting kicked out have a 4.0

  1. Hi all! I am finishing up my first semester of nursing school and received an e-mail that I can not return in the spring because I did not turn in a critical piece of clinical documentation in time. Other students received an e-mail telling them what they were missing on November 2nd. I did not receive the same an e-mail, completed the one thing I thought I needed and turned it in so I thought my requirements were complete. I didn't get an e-mail stating that I was missing anything until December 2nd staying that if I didn't upload TB test results by December 3rd that I would be removed from the program and would have to reapply for the fall semester. A TB test takes 2 days so I did not have the result in time. Do I have any way to fight this?
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  3. by   mimibrown
    Did you forget that it was due? Usually, these tests are required at the start of the semester. I would go and speak with the program director and let them know that it was overlooked and it's being completed now. Can you at least show paperwork of the first step? I don't think they will kick you out for this if you fix this problem asap.
  4. by   rzyzzy
    Quote from CXW11
    Hi all! I am finishing up my first semester of nursing school and received an e-mail that I can not return in the spring because I did not turn in a critical piece of clinical documentation in time. Other students received an e-mail telling them what they were missing on November 2nd. I did not receive the same an e-mail, completed the one thing I thought I needed and turned it in so I thought my requirements were complete. I didn't get an e-mail stating that I was missing anything until December 2nd staying that if I didn't upload TB test results by December 3rd that I would be removed from the program and would have to reapply for the fall semester. A TB test takes 2 days so I did not have the result in time. Do I have any way to fight this?
    You really need more information before you start fighting things.

    In my program, clinical space was extremely difficult to find & one hospital system in particular had onerous requirements - including doing lots of online modules that basically repeated our standard training & health documentation requirements that were set.in.stone.

    I.e. "Proof of vaccines delivered two weeks before the first clinical date, in an envelope sealed with a mermaid's kiss & covered in scented purple glitter". Failure to deliver that data to that particular hospital chain in the form and at the time the hospital required would result in the entire clinical group getting banned from the facility, not just the one person who couldn't get their documents in time.

    If your program is dealing with something like this, no amount of huffing and puffing is going to blow that particular house down.

    The instructor who had to notify students that they couldn't attend clinicals at my school hated that job, but he also made it a point to explain that the process for this one hospital was rigid, inflexible, unfair and irrational.. But we had to comply if we wanted the clinical hours. So, upload the docs, then logout & log back in and see if they're still there. Check every Monday for new required learning modules, even though you were caught up fully last week.

    In some ways it was good practice for the actual practice of nursing today. My current employer has a required training webpage & it even has a handy "countdown clock" that tells you you have "xxx days" before a module has to be completed.. Guess what, modules get added with less than a week to complete them routinely.. So, you have to check every single week for new modules even though you didn't have any scheduled/ required training due for six months last week. It's unfair and irrational. It's also what you have to do if you like the paycheck.
  5. by   brivsac
    Contact the program director and/or whoever is in charge of that area right now and explain your situation and tell them you will submit the TB test as soon as possible. If you already have it submit it now. If not then get the test done as soon as you can, if can get it done tomorrow that would be even better. I was a few days late in submitting an antibody titer for clinical and I contacted one of the faculity members and submitted a petition. It was approved and I wasn't kicked out, so don't assume the worst. They may be lenient, especially since you finished you already first semester
    Last edit by brivsac on Dec 9 : Reason: typo
  6. by   Mergirlc
    Forgive me, but something just doesn't add up here. I know most schools practically require proof of TB test/results for admittance or, at the least, the promise you will get it done by "X" amount of time.

    I can even attest to the fact that when I volunteered at a hospital, I was required to submit documentation of a TB test and the result before I was even scheduled for orientation. This was for a volunteer position.

    Are you sure this wasn't already told to you during orientation when you first started perhaps? I just think this had to have been an oversight on your behalf. Most clinics, hospitals, etc. would require this type of test so it's a bit hard to believe nobody ever mentioned this to you until the deadline.

    Did you check your SPAM folders?
  7. by   ruby_jane
    Quote from rzyzzy
    You really need more information before you start fighting things.

    In my program, clinical space was extremely difficult to find & one hospital system in particular had onerous requirements - including doing lots of online modules that basically repeated our standard training & health documentation requirements that were set.in.stone.

    I.e. "Proof of vaccines delivered two weeks before the first clinical date, in an envelope sealed with a mermaid's kiss & covered in scented purple glitter". Failure to deliver that data to that particular hospital chain in the form and at the time the hospital required would result in the entire clinical group getting banned from the facility, not just the one person who couldn't get their documents in time.

    If your program is dealing with something like this, no amount of huffing and puffing is going to blow that particular house down.

    The instructor who had to notify students that they couldn't attend clinicals at my school hated that job, but he also made it a point to explain that the process for this one hospital was rigid, inflexible, unfair and irrational.. But we had to comply if we wanted the clinical hours. So, upload the docs, then logout & log back in and see if they're still there. Check every Monday for new required learning modules, even though you were caught up fully last week.

    In some ways it was good practice for the actual practice of nursing today. My current employer has a required training webpage & it even has a handy "countdown clock" that tells you you have "xxx days" before a module has to be completed.. Guess what, modules get added with less than a week to complete them routinely.. So, you have to check every single week for new modules even though you didn't have any scheduled/ required training due for six months last week. It's unfair and irrational. It's also what you have to do if you like the paycheck.
    This.

    In nursing school during the "swine flu epidemic" we were all emailed on our student accounts that we needed to receive a vaccine. I didn't check my account until right before returning to school and had to write a paper on the responsibilities of nurses getting vaccinated. Which I did, because I was not compliant. No matter my reasons (I had no moral objection, I just didn't check the school email address while we were on holiday break), I had failed to respond. It doesn't matter that, in the real world, you're not expected to check your work email on days off.

    I'm sorry. You can ask if it's not too late to remediate the TB test but while you're in nursing school...the pressure is all on you. Best of luck.
  8. by   Cora_Ann
    I'm sorry but what does having a 4.0 have to do with it? You forgot to get a TB test and if you have ever done anything in medicine you would know that you have to have that done regardless.
  9. by   ~♪♫ in my ♥~
    Quote from CXW11
    Hi all! I am finishing up my first semester of nursing school and received an e-mail that I can not return in the spring because I did not turn in a critical piece of clinical documentation in time. Other students received an e-mail telling them what they were missing on November 2nd. I did not receive the same an e-mail, completed the one thing I thought I needed and turned it in so I thought my requirements were complete. I didn't get an e-mail stating that I was missing anything until December 2nd staying that if I didn't upload TB test results by December 3rd that I would be removed from the program and would have to reapply for the fall semester. A TB test takes 2 days so I did not have the result in time. Do I have any way to fight this?
    Oh, that sucks. It's quite unfortunate that you didn't ensure that you met the requirements. I'd be quite shocked if they weren't well-documented in your program's documentation.
  10. by   FolksBtrippin
    Send emails with your results and show up in person with results in hand. Apologize profusely to everyone and their boss for your oversight and blame no one else.

    That is the only way to get through this.

    I speak from experience.

    I was threatened with expulsion for failing my Hep B titer. Turns out I'm not immune to hep B and never will be. I still had to act like I was in the wrong until I got the additional documentation that I needed and no one had told me I needed.

    I made it. They let me stay.

    But I didn't piss anybody off, I didn't fight anyone and I didn't make anyone feel stupid.

    Just apologize, apologize, apologize and keep going up the ladder apologizing until you get out of hot water.
  11. by   Kallie3006
    My school gave us the TB and Flu tests each year. Regardless if you received the "reminder" email or not, I doubt that this is the first time this requirement has been brought to you or your classes attention. A lot of the time the clinical sites are the ones that are needing the documentation before you go there because they have the task to first and foremost, protect the patients under their care, and then be a clinical site for students.

    I would try to get the test completed and see if you can still proceed with the spring semester. I would not attempt to place blame on anyone, not would I bring up the email reminders some received etc, this demonstrates blame transfer and in all honesty this was your responsibility to get completed, reminders by anyone is a blessing but not a requirement. Possibly in the future set reminders in your phone for these tests for school that need done annually. You dont get a test completed for school you risk getting removed from the program, you dont get this done for work you will not be allowed to return to patient care until completed.
  12. by   Bumex
    Quote from Cora_Ann
    I'm sorry but what does having a 4.0 have to do with it? You forgot to get a TB test and if you have ever done anything in medicine you would know that you have to have that done regardless.
    this. Doesn't matter gpa if health requirements aren't done.

    Sidebar- Who even cares about a 4.0 from one semester?

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