Why Are So Many Students Worried About Expensive Tuition - page 4
I was reading other threads and I came across students who were accepted to private nursing schools but declined their acceptance because of the tuition.:nono: If nursing is your passion by any means... Read More
Jun 8, '09Occupation: returned nurse Joined: Nov '98; Posts: 7,097; Likes: 5,234Quote from nrskarenrnduquesne university 2 semesters health sciences, $28,423.00. $pitt 15,120.00 and that is just tuition.costs vary around the country. impossible in pa to get bsn for total tuition of $15,000
costs at state universities is $15,000/year tutition plus another $10,000 for living expenses if living on campus
penn state: http://collegecostestimate.ais.psu.e...ate.dll/submit
$15,000/yr tuition only = $60,000 /4yrs
+ $10,000/yr on campus housing = $40,000/ yrs
$60,000 to $ 100,000 4yr bsn degree
private colleges tuition + board :
[color=#2200cc]la salle university $ ~26,000/yr
gwynedd mercy ~ 35,000/yr (only school with 2 asn+2 bsn option eastern pa)
[color=#67989c]holy family university tuition ~ 24,00/yr
community colleges average 3 years to complete prequisites + major:
community college of allegheny county nursing program produces more nursing graduates than any other two-year college in the united states $1,800 - $3,302.40/ 18 credits/yr
rn program course progression.
community college of philadelphia ~ $3,450/yr
delaware county--only dleaware county and chester co residents may attend nsg program ~ $2,045.00 -$3,485.00/yr ( sponsoring vs non sponsoring school district)
Jun 8, '09Joined: May '09; Posts: 196; Likes: 137You're joking, right? Regardless of how much money you can make AFTER school, you still have to pay that money NOW, plus somehow live day-to-day! Even if I am going to make a million after I get out, I still have to front the costs of getting there and somehow survive for the years before I can make ANY money.
A lot of us have to actually pay for tuition, books, lab fees, other school expenses, rent, food, transportation, medical bills etc. The more tuition costs, the more likely it is I won't be able to pay my rent. I got through with only $4500 in total loans. I can start working next month, and other than what the government is going to steal from me, I'll get to keep most of what I make.
Do you think any of your patients are going to care that you went to an expensive school?
Jun 8, '09Occupation: RN, Nurse Manager From: US ; Joined: Jul '07; Posts: 1,517; Likes: 1,475Quote from khiasdestinyThis is the Rochester area. They start new grads out at $22-25 hr. Sometimes you can get more if you have LPN experience. My facility starts new RNs out at $19/hr (LTC). If you look for a job out in the suburbs it is probably $2-3 cheaper. And some facilities at this time have a hiring freeze, although it seems that the hospitals are still hiring. LPNs start at about $15/hr...I'm making close to $18/hr after working 4 years. :wink2:Honestly I didn't know RNs out of NYS start at $22/hr, that is what LPNs over here start with. At New York Presbyterian Hospital-Cornell the RNs start with like $35/hr.
Jun 8, '09Occupation: New York Presbyterian Hospital- Unit Clerk Joined: Jun '08; Posts: 59; Likes: 5Quote from rngolfer53Like any other profession, nursing is also a job used to support the nurse and possibly the nurse's family, so economics matter.
If the would-be nurse already has adult obligations such as a family, older parents, etc, the burden of high tuition may be simply unbearable.
It certainly isn't the job of posters on a board to imply they aren't sufficiently passionate about nursing because they take a look at financial reality.
I never said people arent passionate about nursing if they look at the "financial reality." What I said is if nursing is your passion you would worry about the loans later and do what you have to do to become a nurse. That doesnt make someone not passionate about what they want in life. Some are just willing to make that extra sacrifice, that doesnt make them any less than the other person. I don't understand why people are getting offended and making a lot of sarcastic comments on this thread. I thought this site was made for aspiring nurses, and nurses to come together voice their opinions in a positive way. Some of you are coming across a little too cocky, its not that serious.
Jun 8, '09Occupation: New York Presbyterian Hospital- Unit Clerk Joined: Jun '08; Posts: 59; Likes: 5Quote from fuzzywuzzyI WILL spend my money how I want and your right I don't care who pays high tuition to reach their goals. I was just voicing my opinion. I have my way of doing things and you have yours. Do what you want, you act like I called you stupid for not paying the high tuition. BTW this is just for you>>>Feel free to spend YOUR money however YOU want, but please don't wag your finger at other people. It is none of your business. Why do you care anyway?Last edit by khiasdestiny on Jun 8, '09 : Reason: Error
Jun 8, '09Joined: Feb '09; Posts: 7,636; Likes: 26,310"some are just willing to make that extra sacrifice"
Well, there you go. That may be the clue as to why some of us are responding more heatedly than you may have anticipated. None of us want to be told that we didn't go the extra mile or make the extra sacrifice that someone else felt was necessary to properly educate us in the nursing profession. Most of us (however we got to this point in our nursing careers) feel that we're doing OK. After all, we all passed the same boards, got hired for the same jobs, etc., etc.
Let's face it, the title of this thread (all by itself) sounds elitist. I dare to say that it is the rare nursing student who doesn't have to deal with (in one way or another) the costs of nursing school. Some of us even had to weigh the immediate financial needs of our families against the long-term benefits of our nursing career in order to pay our tuition/books/clinical fees. I'm guessing that you are one of those rarest of students who had no need to consider cost. If that is true, then you might benefit from broadening your sense of the world at large. At the very least, you might consider concealing your surprise when you disclose your unfamilarity with financial realities.
Jun 9, '09Occupation: RN, Nurse Manager From: US ; Joined: Jul '07; Posts: 1,517; Likes: 1,475Another aspect to consider is age. At 46 I really don't want to be racking up large amounts of debt in order to get my RN. I still have kids to get through school and college. I already have debt from a mortgage and car payments and I really don't want to have to work until I'm 80 - unless I want too.
Jun 9, '09Occupation: volunteer nurse From: US ; Joined: Feb '07; Posts: 533; Likes: 306my tuition/books is running around $3000-4000 a year for my adn which of course is taking 3 years-1 for general ed and 2 for nursing classes, i get some state aid (everyone in the state is eligible-it pays about 50% of tuition at community colleges) and loans.
Jun 9, '09Occupation: CNA Specialty: 3 year(s) of experience in cna in ltc ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '08; Posts: 1,878; Likes: 2,817Quote from khiasdestinyObviously you do care or you wouldn't have made a thread about it, and you certainly wouldn't have done it with such an air of superiority.I WILL spend my money how I want and your right I don't care who pays high tuition to reach their goals. I was just voicing my opinion. I have my way of doing things and you have yours. Do what you want, you act like I called you stupid for not paying the high tuition. BTW this is just for you>>>
I agree with the previous poster who guessed that you're probably not even paying your own tuition.
Jun 10, '09Occupation: psychiatric nurse Specialty: 9 year(s) of experience in Psychiatric ; From: US ; Joined: Apr '03; Posts: 668; Likes: 374I graduated in 2005 with $40,000 in total debt from a Bachelor's in Nursing and what was left over from my Bachelor's in English...and I'm STILL paying it off...and even though my job description says 'this job pays $3700 per month', I only bring home about $2800 after taxes...that doesn't go very far...I started out making about $300 a month less than the hospital nurses (I work outpatient mental health) but I have gotten raises over the past 2 years...and I adore the job, my co-workers, and my patients...I have NO idea when I'll get that loan paid off though...:uhoh21:
This is sorta off topic, but someone else's Hyundai analogy made me think of it...I bought a BRAND NEW Hyundai Santa Fe in 2003...my best friend bought a Chevy Tahoe...she paid a LOT more than I would've paid for any automobile...we each got what we wanted, and in the end they do basically the same thing (go from point A to point B)...but her payments are a LOT more than mine!
Jun 10, '09Joined: Jan '09; Posts: 88; Likes: 34Too many sensible (and a couple of downright hot-headed) posts for me to argue with. But there are a few points I'd like to suggest:
1) Sometimes private insitutions are like Chevys: The price on the sticker ain't the price you'll wind up paying. I'm not suggesting you can haggle with the Admissions & Finance Offices (although I'd love to hear stories of people who'd tried ). But sometimes these private schools are so well endowed that the price they charge gets paid down by the they can get you. And quite often prospective students get scared off before they see the final numbers.
2) I started at a community college. Because I am flat, dead, got-nothin'-broke, I'd basically get a free-ride all the way thru Nursing school. But I'd be trying to climb over the maimed and broken bodies of classmates I'd competed with to get the slot. This fall, I'll transfer to a private school that charges 6-times per credit hour what the community college charges, and I'm going to ring up some serious debt. But my community college classmates are shocked at how little I'll have to pay compared to what they Thought I'd have to.
But...my focus for the remainder of the summer will be to learn the material, question, and even go beyond rote recitation/regurgitation of facts and go into understanding the material. No pressure to get the A or be forced to work at Burger King.
3) The attitude of the Nursing program people is shockingly different. At one place, it's, "If you're fit enough, you'll survive. Maybe." At the new place, it's "If you get here, we'll All work together to make sure you survive."
The o-p contained the phrase, "Quote from khiasdestinyYeah. I'm with you. Maybe it's because my goal is a bit different from other folks...not that I can judge them.. If nursing is your passion by any means necessary you should do everything to accomplish your goal...(and)... Is anyone with me on this?
Jun 10, '09Occupation: Hospice Specialty: 2 year(s) of experience ; Joined: Sep '08; Posts: 686; Likes: 982Quote from khiasdestinyPray tell, what's positive about wagging your iconic finger at those who don't agree with your, I would say very naive, view of how people should conduct their financial lives?I never said people arent passionate about nursing if they look at the "financial reality." What I said is if nursing is your passion you would worry about the loans later and do what you have to do to become a nurse. That doesnt make someone not passionate about what they want in life. Some are just willing to make that extra sacrifice, that doesnt make them any less than the other person. I don't understand why people are getting offended and making a lot of sarcastic comments on this thread. I thought this site was made for aspiring nurses, and nurses to come together voice their opinions in a positive way. Some of you are coming across a little too cocky, its not that serious.
Jun 10, '09Occupation: Office Manager for Small Business From: US ; Joined: Sep '08; Posts: 274; Likes: 116Some of us didn't have to buy our way into nursing school.
I have a 4.0 in all of my pre-reqs and would have to wait all those years on the wait list behind all of those 2.5-ers because you get a spot based on your # on the list and nothing else.
So if going to a private school where they take my WORK and my GRADES into consideration is "buying my way into nursing school" then I'll gladly admit to it.