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Hey everyone I am starting nursing school in two weeks, and I was wondering if they do drug tests before or during the courses. On occasion, some of my friends and I may smoke up for a bit. ... Read More
Aug 14, '03Originally posted by EmeraldNYL
DMR1, I agree with you-- I have read studies comparing the safety of pot with alcohol. Many people die each year from alcohol overdoses, however I don't know of anyone who has died from a pot overdose. I also believe that a person's personal life is just that-- personal, and feel that in most cases drug tests are an invasion of privacy (except for when you have a job that entails being responsible for the lives of others, like a nurse). However, even though I think pot should be legalized (you may want to do a search, there was a thread on this awhile back), the fact of the matter is it is NOT legal yet. Is having some fun with your friends worth possibly getting kicked out of your nursing school and ruining your career? I think not.....
I know you think your a good person, but rules are rules, I wouldn't chance it.
Aug 14, '03
Aug 14, '03I understand what you said about using the "pot" for recreational purposes. However, would you feel comfortable as the patient of a doctor who does the same thing and he is doing surgery on you? Or a nurse who did some the night before and now she is calculating your IV meds? How much is safe? We are talking about peoples lives here!! I don't care if they make it legal or not. The same would go for any medical person under the influence of any substance. I have been a nurse for 26 years. You may want to rethink what is more important to you in your life? Being a nurse or your "recreational drug use?"
Aug 14, '03I know this is not the answer you want, but both schools and employers can test you. There is also the possibility of being busted for it outside of school/work. If this happens, you will have wasted both your time and your money in getting an education which you will not be able to use.
Now is the time to decide which is more important to you and drop one or the other. Harsh, maybe, but that's it. No moral judgement, just facts.
Aug 14, '03Yes, my school tests. Had to pay $50.00 for it. Also any hospital where you are doing your clinicals in has the right to test the students.
IMO smoking pot does not make you a bad person. However, it is illegal, and it is a bad decision. Would you want a person who makes bad decisions responsible for your life?
Aug 14, '03We were surprise drug tested at our orientation and told that we can be tested anytime by either the school or the hospital where we do our clinicals.
As our nursing director stated: "nursing is a drug free career". While I personally have nothing against pot, the fact remains that it is illegal. Would you want to fly in a plane in which the pilot smoked the night before? Sure, he may not be feeling the effects but if it's still in his system - can you be absolutely sure that he is at his most attentive and that there are no lingering affects?
Aug 14, '03Whether or not you think pot ought to be legal, it is not. Schools can test you, employers will and future employers are requiring drug tests as well. If you're worried about what will happen if/when you get caught, don't do it.
Aug 14, '03DMR1- in my program, the hospital where we did clinicals was a drug-free workplace. It was policy to have every employee and student take a drug test before they could even start. We had no warning. The school it's self had a no-notice policy-they could demand a drug test at any time, comply or be expelled. Period. No questions asked.
My advise-avoid it. Stay far, far away- not even in the same house, area, etc. Even the second-hand smoke can put enough in your system to come up in a sesitive test. If you value your education, don't even think about it.
Besides- you'll need all the brain cells you have! (sorry-couldn't help itLast edit by jenac on Aug 14, '03
Aug 14, '03Yeah, yeah, yeah!
It's illegal and they might test you.
One time a employer told me they were going to test me for drugs and I told them, "I smoke pot!" They waived the test and hired me anyway.
What I didn't tell them was that it had been 2 years since my last toke.
Once an employer sent out a memo with checks stating that signing this memo would give the administration the right to drug test employees at anytime and also the right to search their cars in the parking lot. I refused to sign stating I felt this was illegal as it was not a condition of my hire. They threatened to terminate me but a majority of the staff also refused to sign and rather than risk having no staff they dropped it.
As to would you want a pilot or MD or nurse treating you after smoking the night before....chances are that has already happened. Pot has become the acceptable drug of choice for most professionals, even above drinking. Yes you are impaired while you are partaking but there is no "hangover" or the same residual effects as alcohol.
I very rarely smoke anymore but if the mood strikes I may choose to do so. My time, my choice.
Aug 14, '03If you cared about your nursing carreer, you would probably stop smoking pot. Most likely if they detected drugs in your system, they probably wouldn't even accept you. In my state they did various screenings, one was a drug test, well you had to have a physical. Just be careful and think about your decisions.
Aug 14, '03Around here, a drug test is a routine part of a physical exam for work/school. Have you already had your pre-school physical?
Aug 14, '03Originally posted by DMR1
I am starting nursing school in two weeks, and I was wondering if they do drug tests before or during the courses.
On occasion, some of my friends and I may smoke up for a bit. harmless, we BARELY do it, maybe a few times a year. BUT, I'm worried that perhaps I'll get screened and be denied into the program or something....
I don't have a criminal record, or anything like that. I'm just wondering if smoking pot could get you a denial into the course.
You are in denial. Unless you get over your denial and face the facts of life squarely like an adult then you do not belong in Nursing. "harmless, we BARELY do it maybe a few time a year."
I guarentee you will find sympathizers on this board. Whether they agree or not they are in denial as well.
FACT it is NOT harmless
FACT it is ILLEGAL
FACT breaking the law is NOT HARMLESS
I will not provide you information to help you get around the law, nor around school policies so that you can become a nurse.
YOU SHOULD BE Worried. What worries me more about your using is NOT the fact you are using, but is the fact you will not acknowlege that it is not a harmless substance and that it is a Criminal act and there is no place in nursing for people who engage in criminal activity no matter how "harmless.". GET some help if you need to, inorder to get off it. If you don't need help then stop. If you can stop there is no reason for you to be posting such a question.
I know you will ignore me but I could not ignore your question.
P. S. I just went back after posting this and read your subsequent posts. What makes you think Alcohol is harmless? What makes you think it is O. K. to drink and work too?
If if is going to be decriminalized then Why are you worried? I think you already know the answers. Again I could not resist.Last edit by Agnus on Aug 14, '03