Traumatized by nursing - advice needed

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Hi all,

I apologize in advance for the long post, but I am devastated right now and need some guidance. While I have never been a big poster here, I have been an avid reader of this forum for over 5 years. Those who know me will appreciate the irony of my story.

I am a new grad (May, 2004). Nursing was a dream of mine for as long as I can remember. When my children were old enough, I started to consider nursing school. I read everything I could, made a web site to share the information I found and sought to encourage others. I even wrote a book and was hired to write a weekly advice column for nursing students and potential nursing students (very ironic...). Once in nursing school, I set up a mentoring program, pairing alumni with interested students. I organized a peer tutoring program. I held game show challenges to help junior students through the bewildering first semester. I coordinated the junior-senior "buddy" program. I was passionate about nursing and wanted to support others on the same journey however I could.

I did very well in school, but knew that the real learning was to be had after I graduated. Great grades do not automatically equal "great nurse." Great nurses become so only with experience. Knew all about the stages of reality shock, nurses eating their young, yadda, yadda, yadda. But the idealist in me held out hope that a positive attitude, a willingness to ask questions, a willingness to jump in and try, and a desire to learn would be...well...helpful at least.

First job out of school: I went to a large metropolitan teaching hospital and worked on the pediatrics unit weekend nights. Horrid. While I was blessed to have a great mentor/preceptor, I dreaded going in every shift. I spent most of the week recovering physically and emotionally before heading back in again. It was so stressful, I had six MS attacks in 6 months. Never called in sick until the end...just carried on as best as I could.

My second day off orientation, I was floated to the NICU - the NICU! "Oh, they'll only give you feeders and growers - you'll be fine." Yeah...no orientation to the unit AT ALL - we did computer charting, they did paper charting. Their equipment was different. Their protocols were different. Their patient acuity was higher (obviously). I asked the charge nurse for a brief tour of the unit at least before diving in...but she was busy. I was stuck in a side section separated by a WALL from the rest of the unit by myself - no other staff there - with 3 NICU babies getting complicated (to me) drips. Again I asked for help - charge nurse said she would be over in a minute. She came over 6 HOURS later, and of course I had done everything wrong, not having the first clue about NICU. I just thank God the babies didn't suffer any harm. Scared the crap out of me.

Anyway, the rest of my stay at that hospital was horrible. More floating to NICU, with a devastating near-miss. I did not have the option to NOT float, so I started calling in sick on nights when I was going to be floated. On my own unit, I was given patients whose care needs were way above what I felt comfortable or even remotely competent with (i.e., chemo patients without having had any chemo classes, etc.). My self-confidence dropped and dropped and dropped. Each week was worse than the last and every day my license was on the line.

Then, out of the blue in December, I received an e-mail from the manager of a hospice where I had done a clinical rotation. Hospice has always been my nursing dream - I love everything about it. She wanted to hire me on, said they loved me during my rotation and that I had a great future there. I was so excited - here was a way out of the hospital and into a job where I could be the nurse I had always hoped to be. I called my preceptor from that rotation to tell her the great news. She told me that she no longer worked there, and said, "Don't do it...That hospice will use you, burn you out and drop you." Did I listen to my mentor? No...

So, I quit my hospital job - didn't even work out my notice, which I have never done before - but I was terrified that I would lose my license - so unsafe there! On I went to hospice, heart filled with joy and elation. I should have listened.

I received all of 2 days of orientation, riding around with another nurse, and then was handed my caseload and sent out on my own. On my own, out in the field, with just 6 months of nursing experience under my belt. Can you see the disaster waiting to happen? I asked for support, help, guidance - anything - but my supervisor, manager and peers were all perpetually swamped and not available. I tried my very best, worked as hard as I could, researched every diagnosis, all the appropriate interventions and tried to expand my knowledge fast enough to be able to meet the needs of my families. It just wasn't enough.

Friday, my supervisor called me in for an afternoon meeting. I asked what was up - she said, "I would rather talk to you in person." Not good...not good at all. As I feared, I was being asked to voluntarily resign. She said she knew I had tried really hard, but I didn't yet have the confidence or strong personality needed for being out alone on home visits with no support. She felt bad that I hadn't received a decent orientation, but they just didn't have the time to do that. They needed experienced nurses who could hit the ground running. Of course this makes sense - obviously! But then why did they seek me out and hire me in the first place? I should have seen the red flags, but I was so excited about hospice...

I am devastated. What do I do now? Where do I go? I shudder at the thought of going back to a hospital setting - I am still traumatized from my first job. In fact, my confidence in my nursing abilities is so low right now, I am terrified to start again. I cannot get a reference from my first nursing job, and I am not so sure on the second, either. Any guidance or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I just don't know what to do, and I am broken-hearted. :crying2:

Steph

I have been a nurse for 30 years and have certainly been in your situation many times. Somehow I made it through and managed to become a well respected nurse.

I moved to San Angelo TX 2 years ago, and here, I have had nothing but trouble. I am not doing anything different, but, it seems that I am always breaking some rule that I didnt' know about. Even with a fair orientation, seems like something always comes up. Talking to other nurses in the area I am appalled by what I hear. In this area you don't get more than one chance at anything. No counceling, no chance to improve. YOu make one mistake and you are fired. Oddly, most of the hospitals and nursing homes are offering big sign on bonuses due to the nursing shortage.....go figure!

Anyway, nursing is just hard and it is harder in some areas of the country than others. I am so sorry to hear of your bad experiences so early in your career. Do find a place that offers a good orientation. Ask around. Check with different hospitals, but you need a good orientation right out of school.

Good luck and I feel you can find something where you will be comfortable.

kcsun3,

I live in the kc metro area and too am a registered nurse. I work at HSSH in Overland Park. It is a short stay hospital with about 20 in pt. beds. We see a variety of orthopedic, pain, plastic surgery pts. who stay an avg of 1-3 days. The nurse/pt ratio is relatively low, about 3 pts. It is low stress compared to the bigger hospitals. We currently have openings on both days and nights. Check it out at hssh.org. You can file an application online. I can give you more info if you are curious :) Let me know if I can help you. Nursing is a wonderful profession and it would be a shame to lose another nurse to burnout because of a bad experience. Good Luck!!

You mentioned an interest in teaching - what a VALUABLE and INSIGHTFUL experience for you as you move forward to teach new nurses in the future. It stinks you had to go through it the way you did - similar things happened to me in my first two jobs right out of school - the third one however was a charm! (and had a 3 month orientation which helped tremendously)

So many nursing professors are so far removed from the whole concept of eating the young - I have had a couple tell me they didn't believe the whole thing really existed!

You will be an invaluable resource to your future students!

Hi Steph, sorry to hear of your bad experiences,I agree with many of the replies recommending a strong clinical background in basic med surg before taking on a specialty.I truly don't understand why a specialty would hire someone with no experience. A specialty means just that, you need to have the basaics before going to a specialty unit.As a nure, you need to br mindful of the fact that you probably wouldn't want to be cared for by a nurse in a specialty with no experience, it's not fair to you, your coworkers or the patient. It is too bad that alot of nurses don't like the idea of doing medsurg for a year, but it is the foundation that you need.

I can't think of anything that comes close to a year of med surg in terms of pure experience. Almost any job you can get outside the hospital would be easier if you had a solid foundation. I am afraid if you did start something outside the hosptal, i.e, office nursing, public health, etc. you will never gain the skills you really need to succeed. Maybe I am wrong, but I have done home health, and while it has been said it is "easy", I am here to dispute that. You need every bit of your assessment skills. You are going into a home with NO back up. You need to be confident that if you hear rales on your little old lady, and call the doc for a lasix order, that she really needs it. You must rely on your skills or you will miss some subtle signs.

I have worked dialysis, again, a stong background in med surg will help you pick up changes before they become life threatening. Of course, with ER, ICU, PACU etc,. you must have a strong base to support you.

I guess it depends on your long term goals. If you would be happy being an office nurse for the rest of your life, then by all means, bypass the foundation and move on. But this is your best opportunity to learn. All new situations are scary. I have been a nurse for 31 years and have worked in a variey of settings. I have been traveling for almost 5 years and am apprehensive at the beginning of EACH contract. It is not unusual to question yourself, that is healthy. But don't run away from the many opportunities nursing can offer, because you are afraid of failure or you don't want to do hospital nursing. Maybe you need to consider it "paying your dues", sort of an internship.

Are there other good hosptals in your area that you can check out that may have better orientations. Teaching hospitals are usually pretty good at offering good ones. Good luck. I may be all wet and others may have better solutions, but I just don't think you can beat a good med surg base.

I would like some imput if you could. I am going for my first interview later this week. I just learned that there will be a drug adminstration test and short written exam. I went and let them know I need special arrangements since I am a disabled student. However I worry that I will not be considered for the post of newly qualified nurse when they see I need to use a caluculator. I know in law they shouldn't do that but judgeing from my past experience with nursing education I have little faith in any system. Have you ever come across this in your 31 years of nursing and if so what advice can you give. I really believe I am one of the best newly qualified for the job. I have really high marks. etc. Thanks. :rolleyes:

AT every interview I have ever been to they have GIVEN you a calculator to do the test!!!!!!!!! In a nursing unit you are EXPECTED, and need, to keep a calculator in your pocket!

hi, thanks for the message but Im not steph, IM artis.

Hi Steph, sorry to hear of your bad experiences,I agree with many of the replies recommending a strong clinical background in basic med surg before taking on a specialty.I truly don't understand why a specialty would hire someone with no experience. A specialty means just that, you need to have the basaics before going to a specialty unit.As a nure, you need to br mindful of the fact that you probably wouldn't want to be cared for by a nurse in a specialty with no experience, it's not fair to you, your coworkers or the patient. It is too bad that alot of nurses don't like the idea of doing medsurg for a year, but it is the foundation that you need.
Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

Here is some advice that may help: Try to find a hospital that has an RN residency program in various areas. Some of the bigger hospitals DO have these. These residency experiences are a wonderful way to "break into" hospital nursing. Classroom teaching combined with mentored, on-the-job experience is the way to go any new grad, if she or he can find such a program.

If no residencies are available, try to find a unit that has a solid orientation program. Ask the right questions, like "How long is orientation"? (I would say minimum 3-6 months intensive orientation is optimal for most units) . "What does it include?" "Who does the orienting; do I get partnered with one or two RN's, or does it rotate around a lot"? (rotation can be a bad deal, some RNs are NOT interested or good at mentoring new nurses). Ask to see an orientation checklist, if they have one available to you---it will help you see what is expected for you to know before you are "on your own". Ensure "floating" is not part of the deal, while you ARE in orientation. That can be very disruptive. Just asking the right questions can make a manager/charge nurse understand you take this very seriously and will not be trifled with or cheated when it comes to proper orientation.

NETWORK, NETWORK, NETWORK! Ask around and find out from friends or aquaintances who offers a decent residency/orientation and has fairly decent staff ratios. Remember, chronically understaffed hospitals will tend to do what was done to you----"pull" you into units in which you have no business working, and set you up to fail. They are likely to have very abbreviated and inadequate orientation/residency programs, for reasons that are, by now, painfully obvious to you.

Whatever you do: Do NOT GIVE UP!!!! You can find a better situation and will feel better when you do. I am sorry about your horrible experiences so far. It's enough to make anyone want to leave nursing forever, isn't it?

Good luck with your graduate studies, and follow your dreams. I am sorry you were done so wrongly that first few months. I hate to see good people turned away from or traumatized in their new nursing experiences. HUGE HUGS.

Specializes in Prof. Development, New Grad. Residency.

I can't say I agree with Hellllo Nurse, that this is the way nursing is everywhere. I agree with some of the other posters, Steph, that you should hang in there, find a hospital with at least 12 weeks of Orientation, because, considering your 2 terrible experiences, you were not given a fair chance. I coordinate Orientation at my Level I, community hospital. I agree that, if you can get into a Residency program, even though you are technically not a new grad, that would be the best. But, 12 weeks minimum, in med-surg, low pt. ratio. 1-2 Preceptors--no more- while you are on days; same thing on off-shift. Don't think it can't happen. It is not that common, but you should feel comfortable asking lots of questions; make sure they stick to what they tell you. Be honest about your experiences. Ask yourself what you don't like about hospital nursing, and then decide if it was just the bad experiences, or the shift work, or what.

Perhaps you have found something already, but please do not give up on hospital nursing, or especially yourself! :rolleyes:

Steph,

Many, many of us have been through similar situations. I hate to say it, but what you describe is pretty much how nursing today is.

This is why the California Nurses' Assoc is so active in trying to change things. This is why there is a nursing "shortage".

When I read posts from some of the many people on this site who have good careers in business, computer science etc., who are planning to leave those fields to go into nursing, I groan. I feel that many of them will be where you are now, and will really regret giving up their current jobs for nursing.

I've been a nurse for 12 years. If you really want to stay in nursing, my advice is to be really tough. Do not let any employer or manager push you around. If you are promised an orientation, insist on getting the full orientation. Absolutely refuse to work otherwise. This business does and will continue to chew up and spit out nurses.

IMO, the only way to make it is to be very assertive, and stand up for yourself at all times and in all situations.

Good luck to you.

To the original poster:

I cried when I read your post because i thought you had read my mind. I graduated in July of 04 and then waited to take my boards and passed in January of 05. Anyways I was so excited to work as a RN and when I was hired at my first job at a children's hospital to work in the NICU-well how could I pass that opportunity. I loved the idea of working w/babies.Everything seemed so great because I was told I would have 5 months of training and a bunch of classes. I was also told that after my 5 months if I still was not comfortable that they would extend my training. Once i started working at this hospital, I quickly realized that management was bad and that most of the fairy tale I was told during my interview was that-a fairy tale. The nurses love to eat their young, especially on the day shift. I had several run in's with some nasty nurses-that even told me that I was not tough enough to be a NICU nurse. I started to believe them and it started to bring me down alot and my self esteem went out the window. Then when I realized that day shift was not for me and that I preferred the people on nights, the manager refused to let me go to nights and then proceeded to tell me that I better be ready to be on my own after orientation because there was no more money to spend on me for training. After that lovely statement, the rumors being spread about me and other stuff, I decieded I had had enough. I can only take so much.Maybe I should of seen the red flags w/the amount of turn over the unit has had before i got there and while I was there.

I am now at another NICU and still feel such a lack of confidence in my self as a nurse. I still don't even know if I have what it takes to be a NICU nurse. I have even questioned if I should stay in nursing. The last job left a bad taste in my mouth.

Even though I am not a young 20 year old, I too was very green in regards to how nursing is in the real world. I was shocked to see how cut throat it is and how unsafe it can be to the point where you worry if you are putting your license on the line.

I also now regret NOT making myself do a year of med-surg nursing. Maybe I needed to do that first? Who knows because when I talk to friends that did med-surg they quit those jobs after 6 months because they hated it.

Anyways I am so sorry that you had that bad experience but I am glad to know that i am not the only one.

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