They Think I'm Working Christmas?? - page 6
Ok so where I work they apparently don't tell the staff what they're working Christmas because they don't want to hear the moaning...(?). Well that has annoyed me already, but I had calmed down... Read More
Dec 22, '06Occupation: Lackey Specialty: 12 year(s) of experience in LTC, Home Care, Medical Offices, Plasma ; Joined: Oct '05; Posts: 29; Likes: 5hey yall,
my last real nursing job was ltc, our staffing person put up a sheet before the end of october, for us to bid for our holiday shifts. we also knew before thanksgiving what our holidays were for that season. no one grumbled... and we all had a chance to plan.
Dec 22, '06Occupation: case manager, BCCCP Specialty: 22 year(s) of experience in med-surg,sa,breast & cervical ca ; From: US ; Joined: Oct '06; Posts: 139; Likes: 60That is just unacceptable. It's not enough time to rest between shifts and more than anything I find it insulting that they would expect you to do this last minute. Why doesn't your DON cover the shift if they are in such a bind?
I have no problem working holidays given proper notice & proper $$, however our schedules are up 1-2 months in advance at all times, not just holidays. I did have similar experiences when I worked in LTC, but my current motto is "have license, will travel". They need you more than you need them..
Hope you stay home & have a wonderful holiday with your family.
Dec 22, '06Joined: Oct '06; Posts: 228; Likes: 113I think people whine entirely too much... if its your regularly scheduled hours you work... it'd be another scenario if it was forced overtime or something, call me crazy but without your employer you wouldnt have a home to go to and have family over for christmas... so missing out one year to give back to your employer and even more importantly your patients shouldnt be reason to cry.. and as far a finding out three days in advance we also get our schedules about 5 days before the next schedule is up due ot the fact that in the past people whined so much i think its a good thing... less whining means less of a headache for me
Dec 23, '06Occupation: Paramedic Specialty: 23 year(s) of experience in Peds Cardiology, Peds Neuro, PICU, IV Jedi ; From: US ; Joined: Jul '05; Posts: 1,084; Likes: 466Just tell them you won't be there...that's not enough rest, besides the fact that whomever did the schedule was a total and complete idiot.
What stinks about the whole thing is that we work in a business that is 24/7/365, and it has to be covered...it just sucks that some of us end up on the short end of the stick when it comes to holidays.
I'm so sorry this has happened to you.
And to that completely insensitive person who thought you whined too much...we'll be sure you're on the schedule for every major holiday from now until 2009...perhaps by then you'll figure out why exactly it's important to others.
I hope it all works out.
workin' the 25th :spin:
Dec 23, '06Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 38,771; Likes: 16,374Wow am I lucky. They post the prior year's schedule===who worked what holiday. And THEN they ask for volunteers to sign up for the holidays. If you don't sign up, they pen you in for a holiday you did not work the prior year. We also have the option to split shifts, which dayshift often does. That way, people are only working 7 hours on a given holiday, if they so choose.
Most of the time the slots fill up pretty quickly and early-on, like in early November. It's helpful seeing the last year's schedule too, cause we know whose turn it is to do what.
Works for me, nobody whines either. It's very civilized and fair.Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Dec 23, '06
Dec 23, '06Joined: Aug '04; Posts: 9,279; Likes: 4,302I'd tell them to take me off the schedule Monday or not see me Saturday or Sunday, because I'd quit right then and there, effective immediately.Last edit by UM Review RN on Dec 23, '06
Dec 23, '06Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 38,771; Likes: 16,374Quote from SharonH, RNoh so right.I admire a good work ethic but you give your employer way too much credit. The relationship between an employer and employee is a business relationship: You give them labor and they pay you in return. You owe them nothing more than that and you certainly do not have to "give back" to them at holiday time. And giving them credit for having a home to go to is just wild. They don't own you and they do not have the right to hold you up until 3 (or 5) days before the schedule comes out while they decide when they can use you.
Dec 23, '06Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 38,771; Likes: 16,374Quote from mercyteapotYou know, every time someone lets a hospital get away with this, they empower the hospital to do it again and again. I am all for the OP not letting them get away with it. This attitude that we owe our employers something more than an honest day's work for an honest day's pay is nonsense. The honest day that jodyangel will be working ends at 7 am Christmas Day. She doesn't owe this hospital her health or sanity just because they are so kind as to allow her to 32 hours within a 52 hour period, over a holiday weekend no less.
Dec 23, '06Occupation: Staff Nurse; Now Rstricted Duty Specialty: Psych, Med/Surg, Home Health, Oncology ; Joined: Oct '03; Posts: 3,014; Likes: 346I'd leave that place in the blink of an eye.
They are being totally disrespectful by putting up a schedule 3 days ahead of time.
Where I work, we know all of our Holidays. The Holiday's off are the opposite of this year. Also, the night shift Holiday is the nite before the Holiday----so I am nite shift, so since my Holiday off this year is Christmas, I am off 12/24. I have known that for the last year.
Our Holiday schedule for the year is like carved in stone. Unless you get someone to switch with you, you work it. And if you get someone to switch with you, you MUST get it in writing & both parties must sign.
Our normal schedule comes out 3-4 weeks ahead of time. Plus, we actually do our own schedule & then she approves or moves things around.
We have some rules---no PTO time from 12/01 thru 01/15.
Even during the year, we can only take 3 weeks unless we get approval.
But, like I say--we all know our Holiday schedule & that' what matters.
Dec 23, '06Occupation: "Exploring my options" ;) Specialty: 30 year(s) of experience in Alzheimer's, Geriatrics, Chem. Dep. ; From: US ; Joined: Apr '03; Posts: 11,245; Likes: 8,515Quote from redwinggirlieYou are already working Christmas. At least in my facility, the night before is a paid holiday as the majority of the hours worked fall on the holiday. Is that not the same elsewhere? Seven hours of your shift are on Christmas Day. Don't work. Don't answer the phone. Call in sick today. AND MOST OF ALL...
Have a Merry Christmas!
Except that places often won't pay holiday pay if you call out the day before or the day after (which doesn't even apply here since all 3 shifts are ON holidays...)
She could at LEAST have scheduled her 11-7 rather than 3-11 so she could nap. I'm grateful for a paycheck but not for a rotten deal like that
Dec 23, '06Joined: Apr '05; Posts: 29; Likes: 2Quote from mercyteapotDamn right! And with the way the tables are turned these employers need to learn that the nurses command the advantage with there being huge shortages, and more and more shortages to come. So listen up employers, you need to keep us happy, not the other way around.You know, every time someone lets a [nursing employer] get away with this, they empower the [employer] to do it again and again. I am all for the OP not letting them get away with it. This attitude that we owe our employers something more than an honest day's work for an honest day's pay is nonsense. [snip]
If you stand up to them they soon back down..Last edit by Zizka on Dec 23, '06
Dec 23, '06Occupation: Registered Nurse Specialty: 8 year(s) of experience in ICU, psych, corrections ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '03; Posts: 1,163; Likes: 465It stinks that no facility I know of counts Eve as a holiday, either Christmas or NY. I guess the good part for you is that you can have an early gathering and/or church attendance on Eve and you will have either C Day or C Night free, depending on when you sleep.
This year is going to suck for us because I have to work 12/23 (7pm to 7am) and 12/24 (7pm to 7am), then my hubbie has to work 12/24 and 12/25 (6am to 7pm). This means we will not even see each other or be together with the kids the day before or the day of Christmas. So we are celebrating it this morning (12/23) and today will be our Christmas. Then the kids will head over to their grandparents Christmas Eve and on Christmas morning, they will exchange gifts with Grandma and Grandpa.
I'm bummed because Christmas has always been a very special holiday for me and one I looked forward to all year because of the sense of togetherness. But what can you do? The holidays I'll have worked this year will be 4th of July, Christmas Eve, New Year's Eve, and New Year's Eve day. I managed to get Thanksgiving and Christmas Day off (I did not want to work the night of 12/25 because it's for regular pay....if I have to work at all on Christmas, it will be during the shift that gets paid holiday pay!).
Melanie = )
Dec 23, '06Occupation: retired Specialty: CCU,ICU,ER retired ; Joined: Dec '02; Posts: 720; Likes: 687at our facilty we did this: wrote down five of the holiday season starting at Thanksgiving which of the holidays you wanted off the most. the holidays are Thanksgiving,Christmas Eve, Christmas Day,New Years Eve, and New Years Day. The schedule was started in late Oct, Then rated them 1-5, 1 being the most important. you were assured you would get C-eve or C-day and either New year eve or NY day, or Thanksgiving. There was always some nurses that would work one of the shifts. I would always work any of the New Years holiday if not both. and there wer some nurses that would work the thanksgiving and so on and so on. Our schedule always came out 2 months before the holidays. I hope you can understand my statement. it sounds confusing but works very well.