Someone told me something that upset me today.

[oramar]

A person very close to me(but I won't say who) told me in off hand way that their manager swipes them in and out sometimes, not just the person telling me the story but everyone on the unit has been swiped in by the manager. There are a variety of reasons they say this happens and even though this person would not allow anyone else to swipe them in at the time clock they do allow their boss to do. I told them what everyone knows that doing that is cause for instance dismissal in most facility and it says as much in most handbooks. This person blew me off and said that the boss is in very good with higher levels of management and that would never happen. I told this person they are making a big mistake and next time they should tell the boss they would prefer they not do that. They said it would sound as if they were critizing their manager and they would not feel comfortable telling their manager to stop. Am I wrong maybe, is it OK if the manager swipes you in if they need you to go and do something else at the moment which means you have to leave the clockside?

[Spidey's mom, ADN, BSN, RN]

My ex-husband and the guy who swiped him out got fired for this.

Just say no.

steph

[oramar]

The phrase, "in to good with upper levels of management to get fired", sounds like famous last words to me.

[Reno1978, BSN, RN]

A manager in my old hospital would allow her employees to swipe in whenever they arrived, even if 20 minutes early, and then would alter their IN punch to reflect 6:45. When timekeeping practices were audited, because there was no documentation that these employees requested changes to their timecards, that manager was fired.

[azhiker96, BSN, RN]

If a manager is swiping you in and you're not working, that is falsifying time. However, if we forget/lose our badge, we sign up on a sheet and our CM can clock us in and out.

[attrain15]

Just popped on the website and noticed the thread and how close it hit home. See I have been working at this hospital for almost five years now, a year and a half in my current position as an ICU nurse. A relative of my also works on the same floor as me, and in the first few months I had noticed that he had been punching in this other girl on our floor and vice versa. I confronted him once because I thought it was wrong and feared that he would get caught one day, and lose his job. Well it continued and I turned my cheek, but there was one day when I was running late and I desperately needed someone to help me out. Knowing that this girl has been doing it for quite some time now I called into the unit and asked for her, she obliged and every once in awhile I return the favor. If you are one minute late you are considered tardy and your reputation takes a hit after so many. The point is that after I had done this for her and her I, we became closer and there was trust formed. Not saying that it is the right way to do it because I know that it is wrong, but sometimes you need that one thing that develops trust between two people. Take it for what it's worth

[lpnflorida]

It is not okay for anyone to swipe someone else in at work, and it is true it is instant grounds for dismissal.

[CoffeeRTC, BSN, RN]

I'm going to have to say no on this issue. It is wrong.

If I'm late, I'm late. If they need me as soon as I walk in the door, OKAy...I will fill out a paper exception form if I don't have time to puch.

[lpnflorida]

There really is no good excuse for having someone else punch you into work. We also have a zero tolerance policy for being tardy. Yet, we are not counted as tardy until the clock reads 7 min after the regular punch time meaning if I am to be at work at 0645 I am not considered tardy unless I punch in after 0652. Now I realize if I day after day clocked in after 0645, I would hear about from my manager. I would rather take the hit for being tardy which happens about once a year for me, rather than risk losing my job or someone else losing their job. It is about not only following the rules but my own integrity.

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

The point is that after I had done this for her and her I, we became closer and there was trust formed. Not saying that it is the right way to do it because I know that it is wrong, but sometimes you need that one thing that develops trust between two people. Take it for what it's worth

Cheating your employer is definitely a good way to bond and make friends. It always helps to have someone watch your back and save your butt and lie and cheat for you and visa versa.

Really??

[island40]

I've seen too many people get fired and reported to the state board of nursing for eithic violations- don't do this. Take time later to fill out the paperwork requesting the punch change. Our habits define our character and every time I break with my values and behave without integrity makes it easier the next time to do the wrong thing. (Integrity is a firm adherence to a value set, it does not mean honesty.)

[NurseyBaby'05, BSN, RN]

Am I wrong maybe, is it OK if the manager swipes you in if they need you to go and do something else at the moment which means you have to leave the clockside?

If the manager needs her to go and do something, then said manager should be paying her instead of expecting her to offer her services for free.

As for it being wrong, it is. People like that usually wind-up leaving enough rope to hang themselves.