Shooting at nurse's college in Tuscon, AZ??

JMP · Oct 28, 2002

after everything that has happened lately in the US- especially the sniper incident surely the old- it is people that kill people not guns must finally die. That argument is so tired. GUNS kill people. Guns are weapons. Yes, other things can be weapons also. But even the most hard lined must understand that people WHEN THEY HAVE ACCESS to guns will use them to KILL.

If you can not see it, look at the facts. Look at Great Britain and Canada and then look at the US and compare death stats related to guns. The facts don't lie.

LasVegasRN · Oct 28, 2002

Do we have any students from that school on this board??

JMP - most crimes involving guns are committed by people who illegally obtained guns. What difference would it have made??

Q. · Oct 28, 2002

So should we ban kitchen knives? Afterall, they are a weapon and can be used to kill people. What about ammonia, matches, string, etc and other common chemicals that can make a bomb?

There are numerous other reasons why America is more violent that Canada or Great Britian. I don't think guns are the sole reason NOR the sole solution.

renerian, BSN, RN · Oct 28, 2002

This is a sad day once again for mankind, the victims, their families and the students.

renerian

Cascadians · Oct 28, 2002

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/777315/posts

Major shooting at nursing school in Tucson AZ

Lausana · Oct 28, 2002

Why would someone feel it necessary to wear their gun to take midterms? Something was not right to begin with. I hope it's a wake up call for students who can't get a grip--For pete's sake if you are that stressed out-TAKE A SEMESTER OFF!!! Surely someone must have noticed something leading up to that? :confused:

Personally, I don't care whether someone handed him a loaded gun on his way into class, he killed innocent people-- THAT is the issue at hand.

OB/GYN NP · Oct 28, 2002

I just happened to be in the car and heard this. Was getting ready to post a new thread when I read that someone else beat me to it! You guys are on it! Anyway, NPR is now reporting that there have been bomb threats on campus as well? They've closed several campus buildings in response. Regardless of how you feel about gun control, let's focus on the loss that the families of these students and/or professors are feeling. I will be in prayer, and for those of you who believe in prayer, I hope you will join me. May God bless these families in this terrible tragedy.

JMP · Oct 28, 2002

If everyone in the US insists on keeping guns at their beckon call...what is the solution? Or is there one? Manditory gun control is one solution but..... there are SO MANY illegial weapons in the US that it would have to be a major undertaking.

So much money would have to go towards it..... it would have to be seen as a major health promotion issue- safety vs violence.

Solutions? Everytime this issue comes up, people tend to wave the flag and state it is there RIGHT to have guns and shoot them. So, then..... what is the answer? Has no one thought about this issue other than Britians and Canadians? I think in retrospective maybe the time to attempt to solve the problem has come and gone. Too late.

So now what? It is not my problem, I live in Canada. But, it troubles me none the les, since the US is our neighbour. So what is the solution or is there one?

adrienurse, LPN · Oct 28, 2002

JMP, honey. You're preaching to the choir here. I am SO anti-gun. Anti-gun mentality is embedded in the Canadian consciousness.

GUNS ARE FOR KILLING

Hell, I thought nursing was immune to this sort of thing! This saddens me so much!

Agnus · Oct 28, 2002

If guns did not exist this person would have found another way to attack. Knives poision you name it. Boobie traps etc.

The bottom line is he did not belong in a nursing program. The good thing is he isn't any more. The REALLY bad thing is there are some others who aren't nurses any more either.

Maybe he went into nursing looking for help. More than one person has been drawn toward helping professions because they needed help.

I morn with all of you. God Bless you my Brothers and Sisters in Nursing.

PennyLane, RN · Oct 28, 2002

The point about guns is it's sooo much easier to pull a trigger than to overtake someone, get out your knife, and start slashing. Especially if there are other people in the room to intervene. Of course there are other ways to kill someone, but how many murders are committed by guns in this country?? Over 300 a year in my city alone. It's a good point to compare murders in the UK or Canada to the U.S.

I personally believe that all guns should be banned. I'm sooo anti-gun. Guns DO kill people. It's an impulsive, quick thing to pull out a gun and pull the trigger. It takes a lot less than to attempt to kill someone by strangulation or whatever.

Q. · Oct 28, 2002

Originally posted by Mel D
Guns DO kill people. It's an impulsive, quick thing to pull out a gun and pull the trigger.

I'd like to point out that what you mentioned above (impulsivity, pulling the trigger) are human characteristics and not the characteristics of a gun.