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  1. by bigjim
    Jan 31, '08
    Joined: Sep '07; Posts: 137; Likes: 158
    Quote from ranchwife
    Wow!!! After reading a few of these postings, it is now loud and clear why Montana cannot recruit and retain good, experienced nurses!!! I am an LPN with 14 years of experience in ER, Med/Surg and Geriatrics and am only making a little over $16 an hour!!! Course, they say that "what ya lack in pay, ya make up for just getting the privilege of living where ya do"...yeah, but the pretty scenery does not pay the bills and put food on the table!!


    Which is one of many reasons I'm looking at being a CRNA. There's a posting on gaswork.com right now, rural Montana, 25 hour work week with 5 weeks paid vacation, signing bonus, $170-200k per year.
  2. by bigjim
    Jan 31, '08
    Joined: Sep '07; Posts: 137; Likes: 158
    Quote from AnamariaR
    Hehe.I have a 7 years of experience and a payment $6/hr.Its great to work in Croatia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    How much do things cost there? Like, how much would the average person spend on rent/food/etc?
  3. by bigjim
    Jan 31, '08
    Joined: Sep '07; Posts: 137; Likes: 158
    Quote from propofool
    This seems to be a unique phenomena, In my opinion, that nurses are so willing to publicly proclaim their earning potential. Of course it is normal to wonder, but less than professional to discuss publicly

    Horse puckey.

    Why do you think management does not want people to discuss their salary? It's because there is such a wide range of pay for people doing the same job. Hospitals do often have a pay scale for certain jobs, so the variation may be less in some places, but it's there. Often this really creeps up on people with a lot of seniority, who work somewhere ten or more years only to find that the people they are training make as much as , or more than, they do.

    When I was a computer guy I worked for a large national company, and on my team here was the pay that three of us had, which we discovered one day in casual conversation:

    Company Employee (another guy named Jim) $32k year
    Agency Contractor (me) $52k year
    Independent Contractor (Sean) $80k year

    Same job, same schedule, same skill set. 50k per year difference. And the high guy made almost triple what the low guy made.

    How do you think companies get away with that? They keep the applicants uninformed, or they hire from within and bring people up from low-paying jobs and their pay never catches up. When they have to hire from outside or go to an agency (this was during the tech boom and techies were hard to come by), they had to pay more, but even then the agencies got a big cut.

    Knowledge is power. If you want to keep all the tools in the hands of the management, then don't read the discussion. But if I'm going to battle, I prefer to go armed (in this case, with information).
    Last edit by bigjim on Jan 31, '08
  4. by 2bNurseguru
    Jan 31, '08
    Joined: Jul '06; Posts: 98; Likes: 29
    Quote from bigjim
    Horse puckey.

    Why do you think management does not want people to discuss their salary? It's because there is such a wide range of pay for people doing the same job. Hospitals do often have a pay scale for certain jobs, so the variation may be less in some places, but it's there. Often this really creeps up on people with a lot of seniority, who work somewhere ten or more years only to find that the people they are training make as much as , or more than, they do.

    When I was a computer guy I worked for a large national company, and on my team here was the pay that three of us had, which we discovered one day in casual conversation:

    Company Employee (another guy named Jim) $32k year
    Agency Contractor (me) $52k year
    Independent Contractor (Sean) $80k year

    Same job, same schedule, same skill set. 50k per year difference. And the high guy made almost triple what the low guy made.

    How do you think companies get away with that? They keep the applicants uninformed, or they hire from within and bring people up from low-paying jobs and their pay never catches up. When they have to hire from outside or go to an agency (this was during the tech boom and techies were hard to come by), they had to pay more, but even then the agencies got a big cut.

    Knowledge is power. If you want to keep all the tools in the hands of the management, then don't read the discussion. But if I'm going to battle, I prefer to go armed (in this case, with information).
    Why did you quit computer for nursing? Are you happier or do you have any regrets?
  5. by jessiern
    Jan 31, '08
    Occupation: RN med-surg Joined: Dec '07; Posts: 628; Likes: 463
    OMG...please don't laugh or have pity.

    Small town hospital in south Alabama; starting rate of 17.50
    I work med-surg, and I float pretty routinely to ICU. Trying to make that home.
    I have about a years experience.
  6. by jessiern
    Jan 31, '08
    Occupation: RN med-surg Joined: Dec '07; Posts: 628; Likes: 463
    Quote from Emmanuel Goldstein
    Exactly. Some years ago, a former manager with a ton of experience left her position and returned to the bedside as an hourly employee because she said with the number of hours she put in on a salary calculated to less per hour than new grad (not yet licensed) PNs were making.

    As a traveler, my pay has ranged from $25 to $35 per hour. My company does not pay sick time or vacation. No work, no pay.
    Our manager just did that about six months ago. Went to night shift.
    My husband is salaried manager of his department, and say very often he wished he had pushed for hourly. Lately he's been at work 60+ hours since a PT had to live.
  7. by bigjim
    Jan 31, '08
    Joined: Sep '07; Posts: 137; Likes: 158
    Quote from kikuyu
    Why did you quit computer for nursing? Are you happier or do you have any regrets?

    I didn't exactly quit computers, they kind of quit me.

    I got laid off right before 9/11 when the tech bubble popped. I lucked into a good-paying job teaching computers in a technical school and kept that until the end of 2006, but the technical job market in Michigan is awful now. There are so many fewer jobs, and they pay a lot less than they did before.

    My experience was in supporting the domestic car industry, which is slashing jobs and capacity as fast as it can. No going back there.

    I'm not a nurse currently. I'm an EMT and in a Paramedic program, then will do the Excelsior bridge to RN and either do PA or CRNA (still doing a bunch of shadowing to see which one I like best, but some kind of midlevel practice is where I want to end up.

    I'm at the beginning of my medical career, but I like it very much so far.
  8. by facetiousgoddess
    Jan 31, '08
    Occupation: changes every minute Specialty: subacute/ltc ; Joined: Dec '07; Posts: 86; Likes: 117
    LPN
    subacute/ltc
    3 years experience
    $26/hr per diem
    and never lacking for work.....the phone rings constantly

    makes me really glad I'm not the scheduler...
    now thats a thankless job

    Tres
    who just took the month of January off.....because I can......
  9. by SDS_RN
    Feb 1, '08
    Occupation: RN Specialty: 2 year(s) of experience in CNA, Surgical, Pediatrics, SDS, ER ; Joined: Dec '07; Posts: 361; Likes: 218
    I work in South Dakota and started out @ 18.50 1.5 yrs ago, now up to 19.33. Only .80 cents noc differential and no weekend differential no sign on bonuses. There is not a lot of demand for nurses where I live but the two bigger cities here have quite a few positions open. I believe at our facility we cap out at $28/hr then it's pretty much nothing unless you get cost of living raises. We really don't have a leg to stand on for increasing our wages. Our facility also has the attitiude that nurses are a dime a dozen so they don't have to offer competitive wages or bonuses. Good thing I work with decent people and enjoy taking care of people otherwise it would not be worth it.
    My aunt who works in ND for that last 25 years makes about $30/hr went to interview in Aberdeen Sd and they offered her $27.50 for 25 years of experience. Of course she did not take the pay cut and she would have maxed out at $28 anyway so it would have been a bad move. One hospital in SD has several locations in different towns but I believe that their payscales are all the same. Sorry sooooo long.
  10. by Woodenpug
    Feb 1, '08
    Occupation: challenging Specialty: MPCU ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '05; Posts: 735; Likes: 616
    S/E Michigan
    24/hr new grads
    20/hr gn's

    I like this thread, the salary sites seem to be inflated.
  11. by lindarn
    Feb 1, '08
    Occupation: RN Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 2,030; Likes: 5,935
    Quote from millerernurse
    I work in South Dakota and started out @ 18.50 1.5 yrs ago, now up to 19.33. Only .80 cents noc differential and no weekend differential no sign on bonuses. There is not a lot of demand for nurses where I live but the two bigger cities here have quite a few positions open. I believe at our facility we cap out at $28/hr then it's pretty much nothing unless you get cost of living raises. We really don't have a leg to stand on for increasing our wages. Our facility also has the attitiude that nurses are a dime a dozen so they don't have to offer competitive wages or bonuses. Good thing I work with decent people and enjoy taking care of people otherwise it would not be worth it.
    My aunt who works in ND for that last 25 years makes about $30/hr went to interview in Aberdeen Sd and they offered her $27.50 for 25 years of experience. Of course she did not take the pay cut and she would have maxed out at $28 anyway so it would have been a bad move. One hospital in SD has several locations in different towns but I believe that their payscales are all the same. Sorry sooooo long.
    So much for the "nursing shortage". It is really an oversupply of nurses do to the short amount of time it takes to become a nurses. Lengthen the programs to a BSN, and make them wait for the next graduating classs. Look at PTs and OTs. People are breaking down the doors to get into these programs, and they out earn up by at least double, if not triple. It is truly supply and demand.

    Even the economic experts are puzzled as to why nursing salaries have actually DECREASED IN A TIME OF SUPPOSED NURSING SHORTAGE.

    It is easy to figure out when one calculates how many new grads are coming out of school each year. All they are doing is replacing the experienced ones who leave in disgust. Nursing has become a revolving door career, with no "reward" for the work that we do. It will remain the same until something in the equation changes. Insanity is expecting a differant result with the same behaviors.

    Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
    Spokane, Washington
  12. by hermance67
    Feb 1, '08
    Joined: Jan '08; Posts: 28; Likes: 4
    here is some for upstate new york and one for mass. i live 7 miles from mass border.

    albany medical center 20.50 RNI
    Columbia Memorial hospital 21.50
    Berkshire medical center Massachussetts is 26.00

    plus shift diffs/and weekend diffs.
  13. by anonymurse
    Feb 1, '08
    From: US ; Joined: Jul '04; Posts: 1,071; Likes: 1,013
    Less than they're making over at the other major system in town. But I figure there must be good reason they have to pay more over there. TANSTAAFL.

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