Major venting about some CNA's - page 4
First, let me say that I am not venting against all CNA's or even most...I've been one myself. I know how hard they work. I applaude the good ones. My problem is the majority of the ones at... Read More
Dec 8, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 1,614; Likes: 2Originally posted by mattsmom81
I can relate Maggie. I took a temp job at a LTC once to find similar circumstances...CNA's ignoring patients, sleeping, watching videos, and eating.
Dec 8, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Sep '00; Posts: 735; Likes: 3Originally posted by mario_ragucci
MattsMom, What do you have against a CNA that eats? I agree that ignoring PT's and sleeping and watching TV is wrong, but please don't deny a CNA a basic need to eat. I don't think that is critisism coming from an RN. Everyone knows that, in order to do work, you must eat. Would you expect me to come to my job and have enough glucose on board for >8 hours of running up and down the halls, lifting PT's and thinking? I eat when I get hungry and it don't matter...I'm gonna eat. Don't expect me to eat some quick white bread sandwich or some silly power/candy bar during breaks. Lol, I'm just going off, but seriously, don't fault a working person for eating. How else can you get glucose onboard?:kiss
You are so funny. You crack me up!
Don't tell me you are one of those CNA's that eat, really!
Dec 8, '02Occupation: RN in a LTCF and loving it! Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience in Geri, psych, TCU, neuro--AKA LTC ; From: MN, US ; Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 1,080; Likes: 47Hey on our Noc shift, we have to go and make toast for the night-owl sundowners. Don't deny us the joy of sitting down with them and eating our toast and cocoa...
BTW, I was just questioned by my DON re: an LPN sleeping on nocs. Well, she must have known not to do it while I was there, cuz I had nothing to tell the DON. Our CNAs on nocs don't have time nor balls to sleep on the clock. We know how well we have it!
Dec 9, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 5,673; Likes: 159Good grief. Some posters are so dense. Did some truly totally miss my POINT??? Or just being antagonistic???
THE PATIENTS WERE BEING IGNORED. The CNA's priorities were movies, sleeping, visiting and eating and they took BREAKS from this routine to make their q 3-4 hr patient rounds.
CNA's here that think the above is OK need to get a clue or get out of healthcare. Do the rest of us a favor please.
Dec 9, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Sep '00; Posts: 735; Likes: 3Sorry Mattsmom,
Just trying to bring some levity to the dense.
Dec 9, '02Occupation: Staff education coordinator Specialty: 4 year(s) of experience in LTACH, CCU, ICU, M/S, ECF ; Joined: Dec '02; Posts: 40; Likes: 2Michelle,
Thats crazy!! I am currently an stna at a nh agency and a SN getting ready to grad. First of all let me say that if the hosp. told me to check BG at 5:30 and you said at 6:30, first thing i would do is ask why to cover myself. In this case D/T timing of breakfast and insulin it would be understandable for safety. I cannot believe that first of all she told a pt. to shut up and then you!? Why does she still have a job?
Now as a STNA i have dealt with nurses that are demanding, one in general, will ask us to take a resident to their room to give insulin, this nurse is very capable of pushing a wheelchair, BUT that is not the worst, when she is done and back on her way to the lobby she will duck into a room and tell us "I"M done so when you can get MRS. whoever out of her room and bring her back to the lobby???!!!! Now that is rediculous! But in your case that isn't terrible request. I would definately go over the big guys' heads a long time ago!!!
Dec 9, '02Joined: May '01; Posts: 365; Likes: 1This is a very interesting thread!!
I'm interested how defensive some post get.
Years back when staffing was better....I didn't see the defensiveness.
Maybe we're diverting harsh feeling on the wrong people. Maybe we should look at staffing and less on defensiveness on to one another.
Dec 9, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Nov '99; Posts: 2,950; Likes: 619My mantra: The [B] only[B/] person's actions, attitude, or words that I can control are my own.Last edit by Agnus on Dec 24, '02
Dec 10, '02Occupation: L.P.N. in LTC Specialty: med surg,homecare,hospice ; Joined: Aug '00; Posts: 4,682; Likes: 4,824Originally posted by chicory
Mario..that's tissue fluid coming out. Try sticking another place on the finger, or a different finger. If you still get tissue fluid, let the nurse know and you can get a venous glucose to send down..the reading would not be accurate from just tissue fluid.
Dec 10, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 2,065; Likes: 48Originally posted by nurs2b
hehe.. Its not that hard when the nurse comes up to me and says "Can you go ahead and get that CBG, I know its early but I am going downstairs for awhile"... So I am not assuming anything
Dec 10, '02Occupation: CNA Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 485; Likes: 15Mario...I think she means they are eating at inappropriate times, like not on their scheduled breaks but when they are supposed to be taking care of pts.
Dec 10, '02Occupation: CNA Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 485; Likes: 15"another good reason for only allowing nurses to do such tasks...."
Dec 10, '02Joined: Dec '01; Posts: 2,865; Likes: 15hmmm I'm going to post what I'm sure will ruffle some feathers , but so what , feathers are meant to be ruffled on occasion.
Just as people post and share the opinion that RN's as a profession need to better their image and stop being bullied and victimized the same can be applied here....
its not about bashing CNA's or any other member of the health care team . Its about practicing your best within your scope of practice. For example , our unit has RN's and RPN's and the RPN's do not have to do many of the tasks that the college of nurses has decided is within their scope of practice to do ...so why do they not want to do the work to keep their skills fresh ? because there is a registered nurse there to do those tasks of course. Some RPN's amaze me , they do what is in their scope of practice, always try to gain knowledge and work as a team , others cannot be bothered, show up to work, wash a couple patients and figure their day is done by 2pm.
its a frustration thing, in any area of work when you see people who are not pulling their weight its frustrating and vent worthy!
whether it be a lazyass RN who passes the buck constantly or an RPN who documents "RN INFORMED" for every single intervention - informing the RN is not the only intervention practical nurses are capable of for the record.
I've been equally disgusted by the action or lack thereof of some RN's as well as RPN's
so its not a prejudice against a certain group of people ,well maybe it is , maybe its a prejudice against people who refuse to do the work that they were hired to do.
I can understand the frustration of everyone, including CNA's who get dumped on by nurses who figure the CNA is there to do every task....
and the flipside where its like a registered nurse is asking for a favour when she asks a CNA or an RPN to attend to a patient calling on the call bell because she is busy trying to get IV access on someone who is circling the drain quickly or on the phone taking a novel of drs orders , most of which to be done stat..
so in this game we call health care there is more than enough frustration to go around for everyone
the key thing to remember is that no matter how much we pi$$ and moan , there are patients who need us to get our act together to improve their lives!!