If You've Ever Given Birth... - page 3
Okay, ladies...I have some questions here... I'm an OB nurse. I deliver babies for a living. I have never personally given birth or ever been pregnant. So here's my question....in all honesty,... Read More
Mar 28, '02Hey Heather, believe it or not, people were born before NICU. Birth is a natural thing, and sometimes it's not.
My old Italian friend named Caesar was said to have been cut out of his mom's uterus. Imagine giving birth before Caesarians? Many mothers must have died. Today, we don't think about it much.
I'd go ahead and have another baby if I were you, for the reasons you mentioned. My mom had my bro and sis, waited 9 years, and then GOT IT RIGHT by having me!!! Of course my bro and sis are okay, but I was my mom's best and most informed effort !! She said I came right out - the easiest birth.
Mar 28, '02State of mind, state of body, social-state etc. etc.
All these things count when in labor.
And your personal painlevel and tolerance.
I lost a baby in the 30th week and hardly noticed, because I was so shocked by everything. It should have hurt, because the babyboy was pretty big already (35 cm, 1500 gr), but it hardly did.
I am always amazed between the differences between Europe, well especially the Netherlands, and "overseas".
Women can have whatever painmedication they want and need, but it is very seldom used.
Same goes for the C-section-rate, very much lower here.
I know for a fact, that in private-hospitals (you know the "Hilton" like ones) the C-section-rate is much, much higher as in "normal" hospitals here. Interesting, isn't it?
Take care, Renee
Mar 28, '02Originally posted by mario_ragucci
Hey Heather, believe it or not, people were born before NICU.
Mar 28, '02a friend of mine told me her interpretation of delivery while i was pregnant, and boy did i laugh, note-that was before i delivered!
she said pushing the head out felt like "good diarrhea". i'm not sure any diarrhea is good, but i guess knowing the worst is out was where the "good" came from! but i love that analogy!
as far as birthing center vs. hospital, it it were me i'd choose a hospital-with a first baby you won't know how your body will do, quick delivery or not, ect and you'll have less to worry about if something would go wrong. i had a pretty comfortable stay in the hospital, but there's lots of things i'd choose differently the "next" time! i had tough back labor after being induced, but walking and sitting up helped a lot, but also caused my contractions to slow (?) so i struggled through them that was probably the worst pain. after i had a wonderful epidural:d it was more of a sharp pressure feeling. people who have completely natural childbirth are amazing, but i didn't care if i was one of them-i still got the same end result anyway-a healthy 8 pounder!Last edit by Lausana on Mar 28, '02
Mar 28, '02Did anyone see the episode of "Murphy Brown" where she had the baby?
That's how it was for me both times. This was before epidurals and most likely before MOST of you were born. My kids are 34 and 31 !!
The 2nd was a 42 week baby and I had the pit drip. Hmmmmmm.
Anyway like some one said, NO body's experience will be the same as yours. I encourage you to get connected with an OB you like and trust and make a plan that will work for you. Good luck when you do decide to have that baby.
Mar 28, '02Originally posted by Lausana
She said pushing the head out felt like "good diarrhea".
Mar 28, '02Originally posted by ERNurse752
There's a hospital in my city that has a separate birthing center up on the L/D floor. Pretty cool...all the benefits of a birthing center, midwife, jacuzzis, and all...
But with the advantages of being right there in the hospital at the same time.
Mar 28, '02Originally posted by OBNURSEHEATHER
Hey Mario, believe it or not, infant mortality rates were higher then too. Would you take that chance with your child?
Way to go Heather!
Mar 28, '02Originally posted by Susy K
Way to go Heather!
Mar 28, '02Yes, I want to have a level 3 NICU available BECAUSE I know what ugly things can happen!!!
If you can deliver at a hospital with a level III NICU *AND* a birthing suite, that would be excellent.
And like I do at baby showers, I am relatively mum when it comes to describing L & D pain.
You know just as well as anyone that every woman is different and will have a different experience and you won't necessarily have the birth you planned.
Well, I want to wish you luck, but I'm not sure what for. Conception maybe?
Mar 28, '02First child, wanted to have the perfect, natural experience, but baby was big, and was breech. Midwife said well, you can try it Linda, but if you get the baby halfway out, and the head won't come out, we can't shove the baby back in. I opted for the C-section. THAT was the miserable experience. So much pain, and since I nursed, they wouldn't give me anything stronger than Tylenol. Next child, I opted for V-Bac, and I will NEVER EVER understand WHY any woman would WANT a second C-section if there were any choice about it.
Second child V-Bac. NO Drugs whatsoever. IN and out of false labor for 2 days, backaches and mild cramping. I was dilated 4cm and going no where, so they broke membranes, and not much happened, then they used the pitocin. Now I may be the only kook on the planet that actually liked the pitocin. I had such wimpy weak contractions before that, with the pit, I finally felt like I was making progress!! Very hard strong cramps, lasted a short time each contraction, I was able to breath thru it, and refused pain meds. When her head was delivered, there was a minute where I thought I may not live thru the pain, but it was very brief. My husband said Linda, look you can see the head, but I could not look b/c to see AND feel the pain was too much for me. I closed my eyes, another push, and she was out, then I was talking a mile a minute, feeling high as a kite on endorphins, and my neighbor was my roomate later, we stayed up talking until 4am about our experiences. I got right up after she was born waled to the BR and peed, felt great, SOOOOOOO much better than the C-section.
I can honestly say, you DO forget the pain, it is temporary. You will be OK. If you and the baby are OK, that is all you need to know.
Mar 28, '02Love the BAMs .
Okay, my $0.02 worth, please excuse any omission of med terms, another crazy day at work, house is a mess, and Martha-you-know-who isn't available at the moment, but I had to visit site.
First baby, water broke, had pit, no pain meds, no childbirth classes, I remember pulling on the side rails when the contractions hit, had him 7 lbs. 4.5 oz, 20 hrs later and forgot about all the pain it took to get him here except for the epis, I remember that pain very well.
Second baby, 4 hrs labor, first contraction hit, called doc, we lived about 20 minutes from town at that time, dropped first baby (6yrs at the time) off at mom's during which water broke, and then it seemed like I had no sooner got to the hosp when I told them "he's coming NOW!!!" and he did at 8 lbs. 13.5 oz
Third baby, placenta previa, started bleeding (at the time thought it was a lot, would now describe as sat pads x2), spent 8 weeks in hospital, then ended up having emergency C-Sect, they put me in OR and tried to break amniotic sac so I could have her natural, didn't work, used general anesthesia, she arrived very healthy at 8 lbs. 4 oz.
After the first two I was up OOB right after they took me back to my room. With the C-Sect I thought she was crazy for wanting me to move much less get out of bed, on the bright side no epis.
Same mom 3 entirely different labors.
Contractions to me felt like an ocean wave just like the wave on the monitor strip (only in no shape or form as relaxing as the ocean until that monitor line heads south). The wave begins to form - start feeling the pain, wave grows - pain worsens (kind of a clutching pain, wave reaches peak - pain at it's worst, wave rolls onto the beach- pain ebbs. Then of course as labor progresses you have Hurricane Force waves......LOL
A friend of mine had her first baby in 45 min from water breaking to mad dash across city to hospital, never felt one single contraction.
I would have loved to have an epidural but the thought of having a needle in my back gives me a "near syncopal episode". To this day if I have to assist with a tap in er I do my breathing exercises coz I get weak in the knees everytime.
To deal with pain I concentrated on slow breathing techniques, you know the one - okay, good deep breath, in through the nose and slowly out your mouth like your blowing at a candle flame but not actually putting out the fire, very good, okay, lets do it again --no thats alright you can keep squeezing my hand --it quit having any feeling in it sometime ago. Seriously though this worked for me.
Of course, as you know, everyone is different with pain tol and each experience is unique to that individual and her babe but I'm sure you will be able to handle it in your own way. As far as where, then if it had been available in my area I would have considered having my babies at home, now, knowing what I do I would be at a hospital....my personal opinion only.
Mar 28, '02As someone said, everyone's experience is different.
My oldest child is 18. I had him when I was 20. I had nausea and vomiting to begin with, thought I had the flu. After a bit of time I was able to go to sleep. I woke up on and off through the night thinking I would feel alot better if I could just get rid of the gas I had. At 6:30a I rolled over in bed and my water broke. Realized the "gas" I had been feeling was mild contractions. He was born at 10:10a. I had about 20 minutes of hard labor. All in all it was not a bad experience at all. Painful at times yes, but once you hold the baby it doesn't matter. I recall a couple things very clearly, one grabbing my legs and having the nurse put them back into stirrups. I distinctly recall telling her if she touched my legs one more time I would kick her across the room. The other was wondering why anyone would need to tell a laboring woman to push, the feeling to do so just comes over you and is overwhelming.
Second child three and a half years later. Had false labor on and off for about two weeks, so I didn't pay much attention to it the night she was born until it became strong enough to wake me up. Knew it was the real thing when I had nausea and vomiting like the first time. From that point on it was just short of two hours. Again it was easy labor. First child was in a military Air Force Hospital. They did not do preps, they asked if a shower would make me comfortable, let drink when I wanted to, pretty much whatever made me comfortable. This child was in a civilian hospital where the nurse was almost personally affronted when I refused a prep. Thought I was out of my mind when I wanted a shower. In any case neither one was difficult labor.
Third child. 9 years after the second. Still figured it wouldn't be much, after all the first two were easy. I was wrong this time around though. Mostly back labor, many hours, water wouldn't break. Doc had to do it, and bless his heart he was fairly new out of school and had all the wet behind the ears, still almost a resident aura about him. He was apologizing he had to break the water, I'm telling him to do it and be done with it. Baby then slips right onto the cervix and dilation stops. 30 minutes later with contractions every 60 to 90 seconds all in my back, he comes back in to tell me he has to slip the cervix around the baby's head and it may be a bit uncomfortable. I remember vividly saying "I f---ing doubt it, JUST GET IT DONE". Poor guy his face turned red, he did what needed to be done and three pushes later I had a beautiful little boy. And while I am crying and holding this most wonderous of creatures the doc is apologizing to me for hurting me. Silly man, he didn't understand that I was crying not from hurt, but from the deepest love a human can feel for another. I cried like that with each of my children's births.
Labor is not a contest in which you can fail. Recall you learned that everyone has different pain levels. Labor is painful, sometimes more for some, sometimes it is different with each child. I would have put money on an easy labor and birth with my youngest. Some women do well without drugs, some don't. I actually felt that I would feel more out of control with drugs than without drugs because pain meds affect me easily. You have to do what is right for you, and that is the only important thing. Once you have that child in your arms whatever pain you had will pale in comparison with the overwhelming love you will feel. You feel incredibly protective of this creature that is so small and unable to provide for itself, and know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you could kill for this child. The pain of labor has no comparison with those feelings. At least that was the way I felt. I took lamaze classes with my oldest, didn't feel the need to take it again. I believe it helped quite a bit.