I need help and Im between a rock and a hard place - page 2
An icident happened a few months ago , and I need advise on what to do, and how much further I should carry this issue... I was in the Operating Room when a Dr that I was working the case for ,... Read More
Aug 12, '02Occupation: Critical Care Joined: Aug '00; Posts: 2,629; Likes: 20Zoe,
Good for you for obtaining a lawyer. This type of behavior goes on because no one steps up to the plate and stops them. I encourage you to continue your legal process. The hospital won't take action unless it hits them in the pocketbook which is just what you have an opportunity to do. good luck and keep us posted.
Aug 12, '02Occupation: Retired Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience in Corrections, Psych, Med-Surg ; From: US ; Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 2,246; Likes: 48The first thing I noticed was the "just" part of your username. Along with the other suggestions above, you might think of why "just" is there, what it means, and maybe thinking of a new name. Like "ItsmeZoe" or "" or "ItsKickButtZoe" or something else with a little punch to it. Best wishes, I know it's a tough situation.Last edit by sjoe on Aug 12, '02
Aug 12, '02Occupation: Critical Care nurse Specialty: ICU/CCU/MICU/SICU/CTICU ; Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 1,046; Likes: 69Hi Zoe........ Oh how I can relate to the attitudes of doctors in the OR....... I used to work in the OR and dealt with the same thing on a daily basis until I finally stood up for myself........
You are doing the right thing, and dont apologize for doing it. The docs in the OR all have a complex that I think they took a class in, matter of fact one of the surgeons I worked with was asked if he took a "God-complex 101" class in med school.....
The administration of that hosp HAS to do something about the harrassment of the docs, otherwise they will continue to do it. The hosp that I worked at wound up instituting a harrassment policy because of attitudes like that and one doctor even lost his privileges there for awhile.
Nurses and surgeons have to work together in an OR, not against each other. The anesthesiologist should have said something to the doctor as well beings that the patient was still awake. Then he had the nerve to follow you to the RR and the mgrs office was totally unacceptable.
Fight for what you believe in and evidently that is being a patient advocate and being a professional!
Aug 12, '02Joined: May '02; Posts: 1,022; Likes: 64((((((((((ZOE))))))))))
You are doing the right thing to get a lawyer and sue the pants of that doctor! I am so sick of abusive physicians! I would pursue it legally and I would also report him to the State Board of Medical Examiners. I would also see if the facility where you are working has an Abusive Physician form and complete one for each incident. I would also complete an incident report asap. Best of luck to you in pursuing this!! It is just a shame that no one else has ever stood up to this bastard in the past. Docs like this should not be permitted to continue practicing until they have their personality disorders successfully treated.
Aug 12, '02Occupation: Special Populations Paraeducator Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 166; Likes: 6If he's done it before, then to you, he'll do it again. he obviously thinks he's king almighty. Had the hospital done something about it then when he was reported you wouldn't have had to deal with it. Go ahead and meet with your attorney and follow thru. That was HARRASSMENT. And he was wrong. Don't let it slide because he'll just continue doing the same thing to other nurses. God Bless.
Aug 12, '02Joined: Mar '01; Posts: 230; Likes: 4You did the right thing here, don't worry about the other Doctor's or anyone else, you were correct when you stated that you "expect professionalism!" I wish there were more nurses like you. Myself included. I am getting better but it is hard to stand up alone in some cases. I admire you!! Good-luck to you, and thank you.
Aug 12, '02Occupation: RN, Elderly Mental health Joined: Jun '01; Posts: 3,115; Likes: 51I presume the hospital has a legal duty to provide a safe workplace, and they have not done so, with documented incidents not acted upon. Rather than you being a traitor, think on how they betrayed you, by not taking action before. The hospital may well have liability in this too! It sounds a fairly toxic place, especially if the other nurses "set you up" Go get them!
Nil Illegitimi Carborundum (Don't let the B******s grind you down!
Aug 12, '02Occupation: Clinic, HHC, Peds Joined: Jul '02; Posts: 567; Likes: 14Hi Zoe,
Sounds like you already picked your battle and have fought to get where you are at now with this situation. Why stop now? You know you need to do this for the sake of all nurses who have to work with this jerk. Also sounds like a case of cold feet.....you know just as everything is getting ready to hit the fan, the fear and anxiety takes over. You have my support and encouragement. Stand Firm Zoe!!!
Aug 12, '02Joined: Dec '00; Posts: 830; Likes: 64Yes the Dr has done this before as of last count and documentations he has done this a total of 124 times , thats whats documented those are just the outburts and unprofessionalism , on the floor and thru other departments...
He has also done this in another state as well and was suspended and then apparently he came to work at this hospital. In the 3 hospitals in this area he has a total of 124 documented write-ups and no action except one that was settled out of court .
I have yet to find one male write up , all female...
Yes the hospital is responsible for workplace safety and enviroment, that I do know, I have the hospital , because the last person that he did it too that was settled out of court, was at thier facility... (My attorney is the same attorney for that case), and they have well documented proof of the incident and had to settle with a surg tech because he almost broke her arm during a procedure., thier punishment to him - he had to attend an anger management class... nothing else, and the surg tech was a traveler and her contract ended and she was gone...
In my case the hospital gave him a paid vacation because my contract was coming to an end, and they waited out, they didnt know until the supervisor informed them that we had already worked and signed a new contract prior to this incident...
So yes the hospital is waiting it out, the Dr offered me a out of court settlement, but I dont think I want it, I want his license to practice, I maybe asking for too much , but thats what I want...
I dont feel that anyone else needs to tollerate this crap from him , and I think if it hit the news some other Drs that need the OH GOD adjustment would get it , because if there is a first step then there will be pounding feet running to a lawyer for the treatment they have been given...
Aug 12, '02Occupation: RN-i (RETIRED) Specialty: ORTHOPAEDICS-CERTIFIED SINCE 89 ; From: US ; Joined: May '00; Posts: 14,479; Likes: 2,298I guess you were the circulator? Those instruments were battery with a deadly weapon. Police report. The assault is the verbal diatribe.....incident report and if he touched me.........a knee to the cajones as a "reflex action." I once had a doc (resident) pull my shirt tight and remark on my breasts.....reflexively I reached back to where my hand hit his anatomy and GRABBED.
He would not stay in the same room with me for the rest of his five year residency.
Lawyer up kiddo you did the right thing. If a doctor refuses to work with you then that is discrimination and false accusation. Write them up too. And make a note to your lawyer while you are at it.
Aug 12, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 143; Likes: 3Look those docs and nurses who seem to 'judge' you in the eye and say to them :
" And if someone threw a pager at your head or the head of your wife, husband, or child, you would------??????
You appear to be so upset that just maybe you are projecting negative feelings from your coworkers. Not all of them feel the way you think. I, for one, would be PROUD of you for standing strong. Good for you. You are doing the exact right thing.
Aug 12, '02Occupation: retired Specialty: 36 year(s) of experience in OB/GYN,L&D,FP office,LTC ; From: US ; Joined: Jan '01; Posts: 609; Likes: 88Zoe,
Hold your head up high,you know you are doing the right thing. You know who you are.
I know this is very difficult for you now. You really have no control over what anyone else thinks or says. Just because they say or think something it dosen't mean they are right.
It seems to me that you are doing what needed to be done for a while. No one has the right to treat you or anyone else the way you were treated.
I agree with one of the other posters,the hospital will not deal with the situation until they are hit in the pocketbook.
Just my opinion.
Aug 12, '02Occupation: RN Specialty: CV-ICU ; Joined: Oct '00; Posts: 2,343; Likes: 51Zoe, I support you 100%. As a travelor, will this affect your placement for future assignments? Does your company support you? Will they help you with your legal fees? Seems to me that they should be placing you in safe work environments rather than somewhere that you are assalted.......
About the hospital: I guess we know why they need travelors when they let docs do this to the staff; right??????
This doc needs to be reported to the state medical board and if your lawyer knows that there are 124 other complaints against him, he should lose his license. His complaint list is astounding-- why he is allowed to practise is beyond me!!!!!