How Would You Rate Your Pain????

How would you rate your pain???? As nurses, how many times have we asked that? Have you ever really thought about what you are asking and what the answer might mean? Have you ever had to give an answer to that question yourself? Just what does it mean to you? If you've even been forced to use a pain scale, you may have noticed some of its inadequacies. Nurses General Nursing Article

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I was with a friend recently who was awaiting a craniotomy. We were in the OR holding area when the nurse came in and asked him "How would you rate your pain on a scale of zero to ten with zero being no pain and ten being the worst possible pain you could imagine?"

Now my friend has a sense of humor, however at this moment he was definitely not trying to be funny when he tried to give his answer. He was very perplexed.

"What do you mean? How would I rate my pain? I am not having any pain right now. Why are you asking me that now?" he asked.

She showed him the pain chart. You know the one. With all the little faces.

The nurse explained that they would be asking him that after surgery so they wanted to know the number he would give the level of pain he was having pre-operatively. That way they would have a baseline for his pain, making it easier to find appropriate treatment to manage the pain.

Now I don't know about you....but that would be confusing for me too had I not been a nurse. I might think the pain I am or am not having right now has no affect on the pain I probably will be having post-operatively.

We all know that pain is subjective, which makes it difficult for anyone but you to know how you feel. What I might rate as a 5, someone else may rate as a 7 or 3.

The subjectivity of pain may also make it difficult for doctors and nurses to determine whether or not pain medications are effectively treating your pain.

Pain scales are meant to provide a more objective method to measure pain and let the healthcare team know the severity of the symptoms. When asked how they rate their pain on a scale of zero to ten, with ten being the worst possible pain they can imagine, most people will base their answer on the type of pain they have experienced throughout their lifetime. Some people have had the good fortune to not have experienced severe pain. Their point of reference will be quite different from someone who has experienced natural childbirth, kidney stones, nerve damage, etc.

Some people are used to living with chronic pain of a daily basis. If they say their pain is only a 6 or 7, it doesn't mean they are not hurting. Also, just because they are trying to be optimistic and are laughing and joking doesn't mean they are not hurting.

Some people worry that if they don't give the answer that appropriately reflects their pain, they will not get the proper treatment. Therefore, some patients may tend to rank their pain higher than it really is just to assure they will get medication. (Of course we know patients who purposely create or magnify their pain in order to get pain meds. But that is an entire topic all of its own.)

The friend I mentioned at the beginning of this article told me about a video which is a very humorous depiction of one comedian's experience with the pain rating scale. It is quite amusing. Enjoy!!

Emergency Room Humor

After watching this video, I am afraid I might have to stifle a laugh or a smile when asking this question. We all know that pain is no laughing matter. It is real and is difficult to measure.

Viktor Frankl made this statement in his book, Mans Search for Meaning, which aptly portrays the effect of pain and suffering:

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"To draw an analogy: a man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering is great or little. Therefore the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative."

To read more articles, such as When Nurses Cry, and I am Afraid. Please Pray for Me, go to my AN blog: Body, Mind, and Soul

Specializes in Hospital Education Coordinator.

The 1-10 scale is NOT objective. The nurse would like it to be but there is no way anyone can judge another person's pain. Think of the scale as being entirely relative to what the patient says it is. If the patient starts out at "4" and after your intervention is a "2" then the intervention was a success. The next patient may start out at a higher number but it does not matter. All that matters is that you have some way to document that the intervention was a success. The actual number is not relevant. Regardless of what the nurse has personally experienced or observed as a nurse, the scale will NEVER coincide with what the patient is presently experiencing. I believe that is where we mess up. We want the scale to be objective, but the numbers simply mean different things to different people. Example: "down the road" meant a mile or two when I lived in TN. Now I live in TX and "down the road" can be many miles. All relative.

Specializes in Hospital Education Coordinator.

but the patient is not having the same experience as you did when you had a 10. When we give the patient the scale we are asking them to relate to their OWN memories, not ours. So if the worst pain they have ever had prior to this experience was a bee sting it is hard for the patient to imagine, and report, more than that.

Specializes in Adult/Ped Emergency and Trauma.

I don't know, I've I had that kind of pain talking to AT&T:)

I remember when I was sprout, and my dad had his back surgery, following a terrible accident where he was nearly crushed. I was soooooo worried when he would try to reposition in bed and moan or grunt,...

I would push his PCA button:)

When his doctor made rounds, he would ask,

"...So, how is the PCA doing on your pain?"

Dad would say, "Well, I'm surprised! I haven't had to press it but once to go to the bathroom yesterday. I don't think I've hit it once today."

The doctor looked really puzzled! (Thank God and Science for Lock-Outs!!!:)

It doesn't even make any sense if we think pain number 10 is only for someone screaming, moaning, unable to talk, laugh, etc.. It makes 10 an impossible goal, for lack of a better word, and all the rest of the numbers meaningless.

I always compare my patients current pain to its source and how it feels right now. "If at its worse your back pain is a 10 what number is it now.".... "If the worst your incision could hurt is a 10 what number is it now."...."if at their worst your cramps are a 10 what number are they now," etc. It validates to the patient that yes I am in pain now, yes it hurts a lot, maybe even number 10, but no, I don't have to be moaning and writhing on the bed to validate that it hurts.

Well it doesn't help that we all describe the pain scale differently. If the patient rates based on what the last nurse explained the rating as, but we interpret via our own explanation, how on earth is that supposed to work?

Specializes in PICU, NICU, L&D, Public Health, Hospice.

First...we shouldn't use the FLACC for adults, use the PAINAD instead.

The pain scale works because it allows the patient to give their perspective of the pain, which is the most important part. If the number doesn't seem to match our assessment and observations then we can correlate with chronic vs. acute distinctions, emotional/psycho/spiritual state, and current health status.

Perhaps the person is having a difficult time with their pain because they have little personal experience with pain and could use some help coping. There are nonpharmacologic interventions for discomfort that we might be able to address.

If we don't,cant' ask our patients about their level of discomfort we cannot possibly address it adequately.

Specializes in OB/GYN/Neonatal/Office/Geriatric.

I loathe the "rate your pain" numerical scale. At least with the faces you can kinda relate. Chronic pain is harder to rate, I think, because it affects how you live your life everyday, but you try to push through it. It also is exhausting.

Specializes in pediatrics; PICU; NICU.

Thank you, DSkelton711!

As a person with chronic pain, I think my experience of pain is different than someone who is having acute pain from an accident or surgery. I frequently have days where my pain level is 6 or7 but I can't just stay home & rest because I have to earn a living & "life goes on" in spite of my pain. Therefore, I've learned ways to function in spite of my pain. Obviously, if I have to work when I'm in that much pain, I can't (actually won't) take narcotics for the pain. I usually will take an NSAID & put a heat patch on the area that's most painful. This combination works pretty well for me & will get me through a 10 hour shift. Having this type of pain every day is extremely exhausting. It's been hard for my husband to adjust to how much time I have to spend resting just to be able to do basic things to keep going. It's been hard for me, too, because I used to be pretty active & now I'm very limited in how much I can do. I tend to agree that the numerical pain scale is lacking because people experience pain differently. I'm able to find ways to function at a 6 or 7 but someone else may not have coping skills to deal with the level of pain.

Thankyou so much for bringing that to our attention. Indeed, the tool is almostdegrading toward the patient. Reviewing the pain literature, we have bettertools out. Why don't we have courage and remove old fashioned tools if they don'tserve our patients well. Just because "we always "used this tool? I am so luckyto work in a progressive hospital where we encourage nurse to ask questions andcome back with better ideas. This is a project worth for the EBP council.

Specializes in ER trauma, ICU - trauma, neuro surgical.

I like how the video said the rating of pain scale was stupid.....and then he yelled out 8 so he could get more morphine just for the hell of it. Seems like he answered his own "stupid" question...

Specializes in Hospice, Case Mgt., RN Consultant, ICU.

I never liked asking patients to rate their pain because it is so subjective and I absolutely hate being asked it. I have had neck and back pain off and on since being rearended in 1977. I agree the faces chart is of no help. The pain questions are someone's attempt to quantify a problem with a number which just is not possible!

Thanks for the laughs in the video. I really enjoyed that. It really will be hard to keep a straight face now when I have to ask that question!