How does your facility pay for Mandatory education?

[tokmom, BSN, RN]

Scenario: You typically work a 12 hour shift, but are scheduled for a mandatory 8 hour class. You cannot go back to work due to travel time to and from class.

What do you do about the 4 hour loss?

Does your facility pay you for a 12 hour day, regardless?

You eat the 4 hours?

You take vacation time to get your hours?

[Pangea Reunited, ASN, RN]

We don't get paid for time not actual working (or in class). I've never heard of PTO as an option, either. I guess it's like an extended, unpaid break. In the rare cases when this happens at my place, people tend to go to a nearby restaurant to pass the time. My personal strategy is to skip the "mandatory" thing that's scheduled since I worked the night before. If they make an issue of it, then I can skip work instead- their choice. I don't tolerate garbage scheduling like that.

[Dogen]

If the class dropped me below my FTE I would have 8 hours of pay and 4 hours of PTO. Typically, they would avoid this by scheduling me for class on a day I don't work, which is a double edged sword (no PTO used, but lost a day off).

[tokmom, BSN, RN]

If the class dropped me below my FTE I would have 8 hours of pay and 4 hours of PTO. Typically, they would avoid this by scheduling me for class on a day I don't work, which is a double edged sword (no PTO used, but lost a day off).

Yes it is. What sucks is the classes are set days and to move one person around means moving another to accommodate the other. A huge pain in the butt.

[tokmom, BSN, RN]

We don't get paid for time not actual working (or in class). I've never heard of PTO as an option, either. I guess it's like an extended, unpaid break. In the rare cases when this happens at my place, people tend to go to a nearby restaurant to pass the time. My personal strategy is to skip the "mandatory" thing that's scheduled since I worked the night before. If they make an issue of it, then I can skip work instead- their choice. I don't tolerate garbage scheduling like that.

No class, no work. It's total mandatory.

[RNKPCE]

You can either take PTO for the 4 hours or elect to take it unpaid(if you are saving PTO for a vacation or something).

[AJJKRN]

I would get paid my hourly base wage for non-Pt care for anything mandatory. Must be the difference in facility but I don't see how they can get away with not paying you legally for a mandatory class.

[tokmom, BSN, RN]

I would get paid my hourly base wage for non-Pt care for anything mandatory. Must be the difference in facility but I don't see how they can get away with not paying you legally for a mandatory class.

So you get paid your full day regardless?

[mmc51264, BSN, MSN, RN]

PTO fill for the 4 hours

[tokmom, BSN, RN]

I don't understand how a facility can do this? It isn't fair to use vacation to supplement a paycheck that is short due to mandatory education

[lunchboxRN]

We are given the choice between PTO or a 4 hr shift. Like no way am I using my PTO for that!

Some people choose to work a full 3 shifts, plus the class. We are so short staffed right now, it's no issue.

[dream'n, BSN, RN]

I don't understand how a facility can do this? It isn't fair to use vacation to supplement a paycheck that is short due to mandatory education

Not much different than low census days. We either take PTO or go unpaid. Or as others said, we work our 3 days and use a day off for the mandatory education, which will pay us 8 hours overtime.