Ethics Violation-Would you remain silent or challenge the system?

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Today I was labeled a "whistleblower and tattletail because I, along with numerous other students, witnessed a table of individuals cheating on an exam in our Anatomy and Physiology class which is a major pre-req into entrance into the nursing program. One of the individuals completed the exam and recieved it back, and took the test back to the table where she distributed all the correct answers to them, in which they in turn proceeded to change all their previous answers. In absolute boldness, one of the girls said quite loudly, "what is the answer to the last one?", and the first individual read off the answers to her. The proffessor does not proctor the exams. He simply hands them out and grades them as soon as you complete them, and then hands them back with the right answers corrected in. He does not wait until each student has completed the exam to pass out the results. Nor does he cruise the classroom to make sure that everyone is done before begining a new lecture. I felt that this was a major loophole that obviously a table of students had taken advantage of. In his syllabus he states that SUSPICION of cheating will result in failure of the exams.

Because at least 15 other students witnessed the cheating as well, we held a brief meeting about the issue and I told them I would address the professor since I was sitting next to the students and saw the entire situation. After class myself and another student asked to speak to the professor in confidentiality. The accussed students had caught wind earlier that they were going to be outted and had actually stuck around in the classroom to see who the individuals were. After they left, I told the proffessor what I and the other students had witnessed. He shrugged his shoulders nonchalantly and told me there was nothing he could do since he didn't see it happening and that next time I would have to tell him while it is happening. He also stated "and if they cheated on the last exam it didn't help them much because they made a 55". They recieved a 98 (which is an A) on today's test that they cheated on. The proffessor regarded me with an "I could careless" attitude and proceeded to pack his things. He did not ask me any questions about who else was involved, raised no concern that he is passing CHEATING students with an A into a highly competitive medical program who are in direct violation of the Colleges Code of Ethics. As I left with the other student, we noticed that the accused were actually waiting on us to leave and procceeded to follow us and threaten us for telling on them. They cautioned that I had better mind my own business and continued with verbal harrassment to the point I had to use profanity to stop them from FOLLOWING ME TO MY CAR. This incident has been brought to the proffessors attention by more than one occasion and he has not taken any steps in changing the testing process.

There is going to be a pending investigation involving the students and the facult member who is now KNOWINGLY aiding them in their attempts to fraud the system. Nursing is a limited access program and is based solely on a point based system. Only sixty of 250 students are admitted each fall and to think that a group of UNQUALIFIED individuals are cheating their way to an open slot is a dissapointment to the College's Mission Statement. We do NOT NEED THESE TYPES OF PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF THE PUBLIC'S HEALTH! These are not leaders, these are not nurses. How would you feel if the doctor who was about to diagnose you had cheated is way through medical school? We have got to crack down on academic dishonesty and stop allowing it to continue because it's easy to turn the other cheek. How would you feel if you sacrificed work and family to dedicate yourself into getting into the nursing program, only to find out that there weren't enough slots, and the people who got in CHEATED their way in.

I am sorry for the detail but it is the only way to explain the severity of the situation. As professionals in the field who have worked very hard to get where you are, what would you have done?

Specializes in home health, neuro, palliative care.
And, I agree with another poster, your classmates can consider themselves extremely lucky that I wasn't in the class with them, because I would have stood up and embarrassed them in front of God and everyone.

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I can understand what a struggle this must have been for the OP. Many of us grew up thinking that "snitching" is a bad thing, but this is not grade school, this is one of the most important things any of us will ever do. As nurses, we must be held to a higher standard.

People do what works for them. When someone cheats and gets away with it, he or she will be more likely to did it again in the future.

I know someone out there still disagrees with me. So here goes my last attempt to try to get you all to understand. Let's think of a possible real life situation.

For ex: Sally, an only child, has just experience the 1rst death in her family. Sally lost her only parent who was her father. She remembers her father being extremely proud of her for going back to College. She's going through the grieving process as well as experiencing financial problems. Sally has 3 kids and the kids' father doesn't help to support them. Two of three kids she have are experiencing trouble at school academically. The reason why she didn't study was b/c she was busy helping them with their homework. Although Sally is currently working full-time to meet ends-meet, she has recently received threat of an eviction and 3 red letters saying some utility will get cut off or car repossessed. She cheated but after she got the answers she went back over the test to understand the material. She cant justify the cheating but right now shes at a time in her life when she could loose everything. She could loose her car, house, fuure, kids and mind.

Let's say the cheaters were expelled b/c you reported that incident. She was expelled and lost her Faith. Was it worth that woman's children quality of life. Was it worth her living the rest of her life struggling to take care of herself.

Prioritize: Is reporting the cheaters for a pre-req test that important?

Wow.... so what you're saying is "as long as there's a good reason...." :confused: You'll always be able to justify lying or cheating to yourself. And it just tends to snowball.

So to answer your question... yes it is important to report ALL cheaters. I don't care what the "excuse" is or not. It's wrong and that's part of the problem with today's socitey. We can always try to blame things on others when, in reality, it's our own actions that have caused the problem in the first place.

Specializes in Maternal - Child Health.
So it's okay to bend rules only if its planned in advance. I think according to Law Premeditated murder would give a more harsh charge than someone who reacted out of passion.

Ignorantium Argumentum: There is no evidence that any of the cheaters had any extenuating circumstances that prevented them from being prepared for the test.

There is no evidence that there wasn't any cheaters with extenuating circumstances that prevented them from being prepared for the test.

So facilitating a visit between a critically ill new mother and her infant is akin to pre-meditated murder?:confused:

I simply can't continue a rational argument in the face of such disordered thinking.

I'm done.

I can understand why someone may not want to be a 'whistleblower' these days. The type of person who could cheat with no pangs of conscience may also become violent with no qualms. HOWEVER, this still doesn't excuse cheating. I have been a patient myself and I certainly wouldn't want someone caring for me who can easily cut corners. Furthermore, if someone thinks a person who cheats in school is suddenly going to become Mr. or Ms. Perfect Nurse in the real world, please contact me. I have some oceanfront property in Kansas I can sell you for a really good price!

So facilitating a visit between a critically ill new mother and her infant is akin to pre-meditated murder?:confused:

I simply can't continue a rational argument in the face of such disordered thinking.

I'm done.

The point being made was that there is no evidence that there wasn't any evidence of extenuating circumstances that prevented them from being prepared for the test.

EX:

Sally didn't plan to cheat but since the opportunity presented itself and the professor could careless WHY NOT? Besides everyone else is doing it. A voice in her head is saying," God I know this is wrong, but I promise I will go back and study this material so I can understand it later" Right now she is worried about more important issues at hand.

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

Sally didn't plan to cheat but since the opportunity presented itself and the professor could careless WHY NOT? Besides everyone else is doing it.

And as Grandma used to say "if everyone else jumped off of the bridge, would you?"

There is no excuse for cheating, whether it's planned or not. So because someone didn't plan on cheating, then that makes it ok (whether the professor cares or not)?

Let's not forget that some schools have an honor code. (whether the professor "cares" or not) If someone can't live up to an honor code, then how can anyone expect them to abide by the laws of the SB, and policy and procedure of the facility they work for.

If you didn't receive your pain medication, and you found out your nurse documented that they gave it to you, i highly doubt that knowing about the circumstances in the nurse's personal life will amount to a hill of beans when you're laying there in pain.

The point being made was that there is no evidence that there wasn't any evidence of extenuating circumstances that prevented them from being prepared for the test.

EX:

Sally didn't plan to cheat but since the opportunity presented itself and the professor could careless WHY NOT? Besides everyone else is doing it. A voice in her head is saying," God I know this is wrong, but I promise I will go back and study this material so I can understand it later" Right now she is worried about more important issues at hand.

She should listen to the voice in her head and not cheat. Why? Because it is wrong. No extenuating circumstances.

steph

Specializes in Looking for a career in NICU.
I know someone out there still disagrees with me. So here goes my last attempt to try to get you all to understand. Let's think of a possible real life situation.

For ex: Sally, an only child, has just experience the 1rst death in her family. Sally lost her only parent who was her father. She remembers her father being extremely proud of her for going back to College. She's going through the grieving process as well as experiencing financial problems. Sally has 3 kids and the kids' father doesn't help to support them. Two of three kids she have are experiencing trouble at school academically. The reason why she didn't study was b/c she was busy helping them with their homework. Although Sally is currently working full-time to meet ends-meet, she has recently received threat of an eviction and 3 red letters saying some utility will get cut off or car repossessed. She cheated but after she got the answers she went back over the test to understand the material. She cant justify the cheating but right now shes at a time in her life when she could loose everything. She could loose her car, house, fuure, kids and mind.

Let's say the cheaters were expelled b/c you reported that incident. She was expelled and lost her Faith. Was it worth that woman's children quality of life. Was it worth her living the rest of her life struggling to take care of herself.

Prioritize: Is reporting the cheaters for a pre-req test that important?

That's silly. Saying that you can justify cheating because if you don't you'll lose your house and car? How is cheating on a test going to help her pay her bills that are IMMEDIATELY DUE? It doesn't!

Tests do not test your ability to understand the material, it tests your ability to be able to RECALL it with accuracy and use the information you learned and put it to application.

You can't cheat on the state boards, so you can't cheat in school.

I just wonder how many slots are taken up every year with students who cheated their way through pre-reqs only to drop out because they can't cheat their way through clinicals....when someone else that didn't cut corners should have taken their place.

There is NEVER as justifyable reason to cheat. Ever!

I went to a school that very often tested the integrity of students, as we had an extremely strong honor system. The Dean would drop a $100 bill randomly on campus in the morning, and was always able to go by and pick it up at the end of the day. No one dared touch it.

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Sally didn't plan to cheat but since the opportunity presented itself and the professor could careless WHY NOT? Besides everyone else is doing it. A voice in her head is saying," God I know this is wrong, but I promise I will go back and study this material so I can understand it later" Right now she is worried about more important issues at hand.

I've been given the oppurtunity to do cocaine and heroin but that doesn't mean I did it. Just because oppurtunity knocks doesn't mean you have to answer.

You have the oppurtunity to cheat every time you walk into a classroom. Are you going to take that oppurtunity everytime because it presented itself? If you cheated because you are a single mom working two jobs with three kids and you don't have time to study, odds are you don't have time to go over last weeks assignment PLUS this weeks assignment.

Oh I forgot- ALL my utilities are on shutoff. I have no $$ for christmas, and I now have over 40 grand worth of med bills from last couple of months. i can't even afford to drive to see my daughter in college 2.5 hrs away!

Still not cheating!

I don't think anyone is on a high horse here. I think we just live by different standards than you.

I read a post of yours Reebok which you were asking which professors were to be avoided and seems like maybe you look for an easy way out a lot of times.

Also, you blame sally's cheating consequences on someone else- where is the accountability in that? She knew the consequence just like the speeder that got a ticket. A friend always told me never do anything unless you are willing to face the music and do the time for the crime. This seems to be the part you are not understanding.

I am glad to see most everyone on here has integrity.

Cheaters never win and winners never cheat!

I'm sorry to here about your financial difficulties. You stated that you dont believe that anyones on a high horse but right after that statement you put You live by a different standard than I. (huh, could that be PRIDE)

How were you able to live by a different standard than I? Was it a personal choice? Before you were $40K in debt, how was your child hood? Did your parents guide you in the right direction? Are did you grow up moving from foster home to group home, being abused, misguided?

Everyone doesnt have the luxury of having parents to instill values in them. A child that's been abused and poverished may come to look at the world as every man for himself. Simply just trying to survive. That doesn't mean they lack ethical values for cheating on a test. They may see the professor's attitude and say well if he doesnt care why should I. Im gone make sure i study in nursing school though.

As far as I'm concerned Sally saw there was no consequence to the cheating b/c the professor (authority) didn't care. Sally was willing to face the music. When? When she had all ready planned to study harder b/c the comprehensive final exam was sure to come soon. Why shouldnt the tattle teller feel partly responsible when she's the one seeking for a harsh consequence. Trust me no one could make it through SUSON by cheating. If its not directly involved with potential patient harm or school reputation dont bother reporting. Trust me, I think the Nursing school staff are competent enough to weed out the individuals who cant handle it.

The easy way out: Let's say 2 freshman love biology. One takes professor X. The other takes professor Y. It's possible for both students to come out learning around the same amount of material yet one of the freshman now dreads biology and the other still loves biology. Plus one freshman has a C in the class, the other an A. Why b/c one professor has a different teaching style. X is strict having a quiz every class, essay test, etc. Y is more involved with Lab and relates more to students in real life situations interactive, plus makes jokes during class. Both students have other classes and a social life maybe even a job. If both come out learning around the same amount of information. Why put up with the unnecessary stress?

Specializes in Cardiac Care.
She should listen to the voice in her head and not cheat. Why? Because it is wrong. No extenuating circumstances.

steph

Ditto. Every school I've attended had provisions for students with difficulties or "extenuating" circumstances. Not one of those provisions ever included the choice of willfull and intentional academic dishonesty, which is what we call cheating.

Making mistakes is something entirely different.

Specializes in ER, ICU, Infusion, peds, informatics.
the point being made was that there is no evidence that there wasn't any evidence of extenuating circumstances that prevented them from being prepared for the test.

ex:

sally didn't plan to cheat but since the opportunity presented itself and the professor could careless why not? besides everyone else is doing it. a voice in her head is saying," god i know this is wrong, but i promise i will go back and study this material so i can understand it later" right now she is worried about more important issues at hand.

sigh......i'm almost at a loss for words here.

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[color=#483d8b]you may be making the point that extenuating circumstances may have existed. we are trying to make the point that it doesn't matter.

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[color=#483d8b]if one is having personal problems that are causing one to have difficulty putting in the time needed to study for classes, the correct response is to go to the instructor/professor/dean and see what can be done. cheating isn't the answer.

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[color=#483d8b]#1: you are an rn on a busy post-surgical floor. you get a patient back from surgery, it is your 7th patient. physician orders are for vs q30 min x2, then hourly x4. you don't have time for this, so you check the vs at 0, 30min, and 2 hrs. you "make up" the 1hr vs. the patient's vs are stable, and there is no apparent harm. is this ok?

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[color=#483d8b]#2: you are an lpn in a busy ltcf. you have 40 patients to give am meds to. your third patient is cranky and refusing her meds. you try to coax her into taking them, using all the tricks you know, but she is closing her lips tight and shaking her head. you don't have time for this; you have about 150 more pills to give out and 45 minutes left in which to give them. so, you just sign off the meds, throw them out, and move on. it was just colace and a bp pill anyway, and her bp is always fine. you'll make sure you check it later, and if it is high, you'll find a way to get that pill into her. is this ok?

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[color=#483d8b]your posts seem to have a "the end justifies the means" kind of tone to them. that is a very scary attitude to have in nursing. we have peoples lives in our hands. just because there is no obvious harm done does not mean that the patient didn't suffer.

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