Bullying or Not? Rant!

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I just started a new job a month ago, and one senior co-worker is outright mean. I do not want to divulge details about where I work but it is in a doctors office setting. I don't know if I am just losing my mind, being too sensitive, or if this is truly bullying. I need insight on how to deal with a co-worker.

Again, I started working at this facility a month ago. The co-worker that normally trains new employees is out on leave but will be back in a month. I haven't met her yet. The nurse that is training me (and another new employee) is downright unprofessional (and that's putting it lightly). Every other sentence involves cursing (and in front of the patients). Management seems to LOVE he. She does do her job well, but it's how she treats others (me included) that gets me.

Let me start off by saying that cussing doesn't bother me at all but I feel there is a time and place for it and at work, in front patients, isn't that time. She also farts, a lot. I am being serious. I know you're probably laughing right now but picture yourself being in a confined space 12 hours a day with this going on. She will just let it rip wherever she is and laughs about it. Again, I get that if you gotta go, go but MY GOSH...every 1 or 2 hours and LOUDLY in front of everyone? At least we do have spray.

Finally, for the part that really has got me upset is that she is very condescending when she trains this other new nurse and myself. She tells us one time how to do something and gets very frustrated if we don't understand it the first time. I'm slow right now with the paperwork (I'm new) but she will literally tap her foot while I'm trying to complete it (it's written). This negative energy that is just radiating off of her prevents me from being able to concentrate on what I'm trying to learn. After I FINALLY complete my paperwork one day, I made a comment that I was slow and sorry. She said, "Well, this is a fast paced environment". That threw me back but I just smiled and said, "Well, I'm new right now but I will get faster." She then rolled her eyes and sighed. Good grief, am I back in high school. I kind of laughed (that's what I do when I get really mad). I think that made her even angrier. She will also whisper to the other coworker constantly and laugh at times when I or the other new nurse says something.

She does constructively criticize us at times but most of the time she lets us know everything we are doing wrong in a very condescending way. The other co-worker that has been there longer than her just does whatever she basically says. A different co-worker told me that this mean nurse has already made 2 other new nurses quit their job and stated that it was a very toxic environment.

When I asked "mean nurse" how I was doing she shook her head and said, "You got to get the paperwork down". That's all she said. I smiled and told her I would and that I'm new. Awkward silence followed.

Why am I still there? I love what I do. It isn't "typical" nursing and it's a relatively low stress job (if that mean nurse wasn't there). I'm also waiting for the senior nurse that has been out on leave to come back. After she's back I can then see how the dynamics really are. I don't feel like I know enough about this job to smart back off to her. I need her for her knowledge. After I feel like I know my job well I will be more comfortable putting her in her place (if she don't put me in my place first).

Thanks for listening to this long rant (it was more like a journal entry) but I also need advice. Being new is hard enough and this co-worker is really getting under my skin.

It sounds that the workplace is supporting her behavior because "she gets the job done". I am not saying that this is right - but it is how a lot of places still operate. And a lot folks from "old school" still think a new nurse needs to proof herself worthy, be "hazed" into the workplace by the means of somewhat degrading or condescending behavior.

Chances that you will change her are pretty much zero.

The only thing that will impress her is if you do your job up to speed and without many mistakes. My impression is that they want people to pull the weight and weed out nurses who can not function in a fast paced environment.

The question is how badly you want that job?

Of course one strategy is to confront her in private - but based on 20 y of nursing in all kind of settings I need to say that it usually backfires.

The other one is get rid of the idea that everybody needs to love and like you - this is a common downfall. I think it is normal that we want to be liked and perhaps even loved - but you go there to get a job done. Be professional, stay out of gossip, learn to do your job very well and grow a somewhat thick skin. If you laugh because you are nervous it is better not to say anything at all and instead just focus on some work. Don't go to work with the frame of "making friends". Perhaps you will make friends with somebody - but chances are you will not. Treating each other with respect is a must though. If she yells at you in front of other people you could say something like "this is inappropriate" and just do your work without going for confrontation to set some boundaries.

It will be easier for you to find a new job with some experience if you can sit it out a bit.

Nutella (love your sn by the way), you hit the nail right on the head. She does get the job done. I LOVE your rational approach to my situation. You have me looking at it in a totally different light. A more logical instead of emotional light.

At my last job (oh how I miss it) all of us co-workers were very tight and we even did things after work. I miss that. I chose to leave because of the wonderful hours and better pay at my new job. The grass isn't always greener on the other side and if I could take back my decision I would. Unfortunately, the job I left was a very sought after position and it is already filled. So, I have to make do with what I have. I had been at that job for many years so being new is very "different" for me.

I love your approach that I need to go there and do my job and forget making friends. Why do I feel the need to be friends with my co-workers? My best friend tells me I need to leave work at work but this is very hard for me right now. I miss being the senior nurse I guess. Being new really, really sucks. Again, thank you. I love your advice.

Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.

If this is a good job then it's a good job with a few flaws. You are not going to change her behaviour with clever responses, trying to be friends or confronting her. It's not your place to judge her behaviour, just put your head down and learn to do the job. Inappropriate laughing or giggling will not help your credibility so learn to curtail it. When in a new job, especially when you have coworkers who are unfriendly and overbearing, it's best to follow their lead. If they're being taciturn, not the time to be bubbly. If they deign to say good morning to you, return the greeting.

Seems like what they really want from you is to show you're serious about getting good at this job. Make that your priority. Once they start to trust you, you may be surprised at how the dynamic changes. Nurse Fartalot might end up being the best mentor you ever had. Or not. It's just too soon to know or care. Good luck.

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
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Everything else, well... (hugs). If soft addressing the issues with the Powers doesn'the produce desired effect after second try, I would start to dust off my CV.

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Specializes in ER, ICU/CCU, Open Heart OR Recovery, Etc.

If someone stands there and taps their foot to get me to hurry up, unless the place is on fire or the patient is coding, I'm going to take my time and do it right. You are new, the paperwork is going to take time to get used to. You can't change her but you can stand your ground.

I wouldn't go out of my way to be civil to someone that can't even be bothered to say good morning. Nodding once in acknowledgement is good enough.

There isn't a good reason to "haze" new people. It's unprofessional.

Others have given some good advice so I will just add that I think you should learn to embrace my favorite interpersonal motto: "Don't mistake my kindness for weakness." I have had to overcome kindness, shyness, and a general temperament that doesn't like to rock the boat in order to stand up for myself and set boundaries with coworkers.

Nutella (love your sn by the way), you hit the nail right on the head. She does get the job done. I LOVE your rational approach to my situation. You have me looking at it in a totally different light. A more logical instead of emotional light.

At my last job (oh how I miss it) all of us co-workers were very tight and we even did things after work. I miss that. I chose to leave because of the wonderful hours and better pay at my new job. The grass isn't always greener on the other side and if I could take back my decision I would. Unfortunately, the job I left was a very sought after position and it is already filled. So, I have to make do with what I have. I had been at that job for many years so being new is very "different" for me.

I love your approach that I need to go there and do my job and forget making friends. Why do I feel the need to be friends with my co-workers? My best friend tells me I need to leave work at work but this is very hard for me right now. I miss being the senior nurse I guess. Being new really, really sucks. Again, thank you. I love your advice.

It is normal human nature that we want to be liked and make friends.

If that happens - ok - if not , also ok.

You cannot please every person but you can try to do your job as good as you can and get respected for that.

If you miss your friends why not call them and go out with them for bowling?

Also, if you feel you need some more socializing to balance out work and private life look into joining some book club, fitness group or such. Some spiritual communities (if you are into that) offer a bunch of socializing stuff.

I am glad that the hours and pay are good !

Specializes in psych.

She needs to get laid.

That's what one of my coworker says about all those who radiate negativity. :lol2:

It's really difficult to work with someone like that, I can only hope that you become friends with other people there and have some allies. When I have difficult coworkers like that, the thing that gets me through is the fulfillment of finishing my work and bonding with my patients and ally coworkers.

I think you are handling her really well at this moment with your replies. The kind of comments she makes, I have observed from some coworker nurses but I am thankful I don't have to work with them directly. You will get the hang of it and do well at your job, and then she will probably still find something bad to say. These people rarely change. What I don't understand is the farting! That is really offensive. We know it's a natural bodily function but that is rude! With malicious intent!

Weigh the pros and cons of working there. If the pros outweigh the cons, then stay as far away from her as possible.

If the cons outweigh it, continue staying there, and maybe search for a similar type of job somewhere else.

You don't want to be miserable at your work... however remember it's work. I'm not sure about where you live but where I live the economy still is HORRIBLE and finding a job is very ​hard (almost impossible really haha).

apparently, the woman you are dealing with was not the 1st pick to train you. i'm sorry you have to deal with her. older nurses are sometimes hard to deal with. hopefully, i'm not one of them. keep your chin up. she's probably a sweety....hopefully...and will be more helpful. hugs.

I would also like to add that I am a very sweet person (and that is also my downfall). One of my nursing instructors back in nursing school gave me very constructive criticism that If I'm not careful, I will be walked all over in my career. I am personable with this "mean nurse". I ask her how her day is and just "small talk". When she sees me she won't even say "Good morning'. Either she really dislikes me or lacks social skills. I have never had this problem before and when I told a few of my previous co-workers this scenario they said, "What, everyone gets along with you." I guess in a perfect world but I am a people person. I am also very self-conscious and haven't grown that "thick skin" yet. Once I know my job my skin does get thicker but when I'm new it's almost translucent.

Oh my your exactly like me personality wise I don't have thick skin so I get trampled a lot for being "nice". My nursing instructor also told me the same thing. She said I'd get bullied for sure, Worse part is i'm a new grad. I have nothing to back me up.

You lost me at the whole fart thing.

Lololol!

Specializes in Nursing Professional Development.

Crudeness, coorificeness, vulgarity, etc. do not equal "bullying." She sounds like a disgusting person to work with, but I don't think she is significantly "bullying" you. She is just not a very nice person and she is a lousy teacher -- but I don't think there is anything personal about it: she is not out to get you, etc. I'll bet she is that way to everyone.

Don't take it personally. Don't blow it up into a huge thing. Learn you new job and keep her at arm's length. You'll avoid to the bad smells.

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