"Two-yearitis"

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I've been reading some posts on allnurses.com lately that reveal a pattern I've noticed in my practice. The nurses who are the least approachable and the most overconfident seem to be two year nurses. Students and new grads complain that the two year nurses don't treat them very well, and as an older nurse I've noticed that sometimes they don't treat me very well, either. I'm not saying that this is true of all two year nurses, or even most. But it is true of many.

At two years, a nurse is just starting to become competent as a nurse and in their particular job. I know a lot of you out there feel you're competent after a much shorter period, and perhaps a few of you actually are. Very few. It takes about two years to learn to be a nurse, to learn your patient population and to be exposed to enough "unicorns and zebras" that you don't automatically discount the idea that the hoofbeats you hear might not actually be a horse. It takes about that long to start noticing the subtle changes that may herald a downward slide in your patient's condition, to refine your critical thinking skills and to perfect your time management. At about two years, some nurses are becoming senior on their units or are being asked to do charge or take on responsibility for precepting or co-chairing a committee. Two year nurses can be very good nurses -- IF they are also starting to realize how much they don't know. It's the two year nurse who is confident that they know everything who is dangerous, difficult to work with and demeaning to those they perceive as "less than" themselves. The "less than" would seem to fit students, new grads and anyone approaching retirement.

It's true of new grads that "they don't know what they don't know," but it can be equally true of two year nurses who are convinced that they MUST be terrific or they wouldn't be asked to precept or learn charge. Maybe it's just that the unit is desperate for preceptors with fifteen new grads coming on staff this quarter or that all of the charge nurses are on maternity leave or fleeing the bedside for "greener pastures." Maybe it's not that they're such great nurses NOW, but that the management team sees potential and is investing in their development. Perhaps they've always been trustworthy in that they won't do anything stupid without consulting someone with more experience, more education or more expertise -- and they've interpreted that trust incorrectly as being seen to know all they need to know.

The difficulty is that it's almost impossible to teach anyone anything when they're already convinced that they know everything. The two year nurse whose confidence exceeds their competence is a case of arrested development. They won't develop more as nurses until someone (or more likely someTHING) convinces them that they don't know as much as they think they do. Sometimes that someTHING can be detrimental to a patient. Or to the new grad they're precepting who carries wrong information forward in THEIR practice. Or to the unit as a whole . . . arrogant two year nurses are tough on morale. Crusty old bats can take it; new grads can't.

Everyone -- even someone who is nearing retirement -- can learn something new every day. And we can learn it from anyone -- even students and new grads. If you keep that firmly in the forefront of your mind, you just might become that great nurse someday.

Specializes in ED.

As a nurse with 2 years under her belt, it kind of frightens me when I hear two new nurses discussing something and end it with "ask Racer15, she'll know!!" Now sometimes I do. Moderate sedation, placing central lines, general medication questions ...sure thing. And I enjoy helping and teaching the new nurses. I don't know why a nurse with only two years under their belt would be mean. I work in the ER, which is where I started out. New grads need support and encouragment. Sure, call them out when they make a big mistake but they are new, they'll ask dumb questions, make mistakes, and be better nurses for it.

Specializes in Emergency & Trauma/Adult ICU.

This is very much a real phenomenon, in my experience. In the ER it is those around the 2-year mark who are usually most disgusted with anyone who walks in the door not on the verge of death, most eager to tell the stories involving violence, blood guts & gore, and most uncooperative with and intolerant of other departments/specialties/disciplines.

Specializes in Med-Surg, NICU.

I've heard it this way: 1 year to become competent, 2 to become confident and 5 to become an "expert." So I guess that goes in line with your post in that 2-year nurses start becoming very confident in their skills. And, from what I have observed, many people start jumping ship at the 2-year mark, either to grad school or a different specialty.

Interesting (and good) post, Ruby. I will definitely get back to you when I reach the 2-year mark.

Not sure if I agree with the label "two yearitis". However, I do get the gist of what the OP was trying to say. I've been a nurse for 5 years and there is no way I'm over confident. Never have been and never will be. The moment I do get over confident and have nothing else to learn is the day I'll hang up my stethoscope. In nursing you learn everyday, if you aren't learning something new then something is wrong.

What happens when they move up the ladder too quickly? I dare say they burn out sooner, or make grave errors. Not everyone, but most. As far as being an old nurse and not moving up the ladder, a lot of us have had other positions that were not as rewarding as bedside care, and as managers, the pay is not always more, you do max out at a certain point. I feel I can make a better impact at the bedside, and I like the bedside, so that is where I will be. Most likely the old arthritic nurse who is wearing her TED stockings and talking to the patients, pushing the med cart etc. There is a place for all of us!!

Specializes in Critical Care, Float Pool Nursing.
At two years, a nurse is just starting to become competent as a nurse and in their particular job. I know a lot of you out there feel you’re competent after a much shorter period, and perhaps a few of you actually are. Very few. It takes about two years to learn to be a nurse, to learn your patient population and to be exposed to enough “unicorns and zebras” that you don’t automatically discount the idea that the hoofbeats you hear might not actually be a horse.

A nurse is "just starting to become competent" after two years? Nah. They aren't experts, but they are competent. By two years, for the vast, vast, VAST majority, competency has already been achieved. They probably have not achieved *mastery* but competency, yes. Nurses only a few months off orientation are considered AT LEAST competent enough to deliver safe care with mentorship.

You must have some pretty insane standards if you think a nurse is only beginning to achieve competency after two years. That, or you don't know what the word competency means.

This thread sounds like it is written by someone with a bit of a compulsion/complex to make other people appear diminutive in contrast to their experience. We have a few people like that on this forum -- like ones who write threads titled "a letter from the preceptor from hell" or "we're actually trying to help you."

Specializes in OR, Nursing Professional Development.
A nurse is "just starting to become competent" after two years? Nah. They aren't experts, but they are competent. By two years, for the vast, vast, VAST majority, competency has already been achieved. They probably have not achieved *mastery* but competency, yes. Nurses only a few months off orientation are considered AT LEAST competent enough to deliver safe care with mentorship.

You must have some pretty insane standards if you think a nurse is only beginning to achieve competency after two years. That, or you don't know what the word competency means.

This thread sounds like it is written by someone with a bit of a compulsion/complex to make other people appear diminutive in contrast to their experience. We have a few people like that on this forum -- like ones who write threads titled "a letter from the preceptor from hell" or "we're actually trying to help you."

Actually, one of the nursing theorists does indeed place competency at two to three years of experience. http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/nursing/projects/Documents/novice-expert-benner.pdf

Specializes in Critical Care, Float Pool Nursing.
Actually, one of the nursing theorists does indeed place competency at two to three years of experience. http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/nursing/projects/Documents/novice-expert-benner.pdf

Never heard of them; don't really care. My nursing theory places competency at 6 months to 1 year.

Nice 30 year old source from australia, by the way.

Specializes in geriatrics.

Some of you may want to read Patricia Benner: Novice to Expert. Her theory falls in line with Ruby's post.

Specializes in OR, Nursing Professional Development.
Never heard of them; don't really care. My nursing theory places competency at 6 months to 1 year.

Nice 30 year old source from australia, by the way.

Many nursing theories are not the most recently published; that does not make them less relevant. Patricia Benner is also from the US; the fact that her work has found of value on multiple continents should tell you how well it is received. The fact that you would dismiss something merely because of the length of time and the country of the web page has me shaking my head.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
Some of you may want to read Patricia Benner: Novice to Expert. Her theory falls in line with Ruby's post.

This.

Benner's theory helps my practice and my experiences with my patients. :yes:

Specializes in Trauma, Teaching.

Benner is my favorite theorist.

I often feel behind the curve, there is always so much new stuff to keep up on and with. I sometimes think my newer nurses are more up to date, my CEUs don't always cover new stuff in enough areas. When I started, no one had heard of A1C, yet now it's a standard of care..... but diabetic updates didn't happen to be in my CEU list when it was becoming significant. I still remember pork based insulin, which some of my students have never heard of!

Teaching surely does make you aware of how much more there is to keep learning about. Staying ahead of inquiring minds takes some nimbleness.

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