From a Prez of a LVN Association

Nurses LPN/LVN

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One wonders sometimes, how long this fight will continue between the RN and the LVN.

It started many years ago as "entry into practice" and 'one board of nursing" and still continues to this day - into the "staffing ratio" issue.

The driving force behind the elimination of the LPN / LVN is not the RN's personally, but the educational programs that teach the RN's and the RN Associations throughout the United States.

Mark my words, this is the case.

To the person (on a different thread) that said "After all, ANY RN, will always provide better quality care than an LPN/LVN." should re-evaluate themselves. This was a learned trait - embedded by some instructor or by a RN Association.

Apathy among the LPN and LVN group is tremendous. You must get active or suffer elimination of our profession totally. Elimination is emminant if nothing is done.

Jenny99

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Specializes in Peds stepdown ICU.

I agree, LPN's need to be more active in their organizations. RN organizations are strong here in CA...but I rarely hear anything about LPN's (LVN's).

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Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.

I think the poster you were referring to was speaking tongue in cheek and is supportive of LPNs, but you can clarify it with them.

I'm in an RN to BSN program, we learned the value/advantages of a BSN. An ADN can read that and run with the assumption that it's taught in schools that BSNs are better nurses.

Sometimes in trying to build up confidence and pride in one's choses field, they step on someone elses toes. Personally I can say with assurance in my nursing programs both ADN and BSN we were not taught that RNs are better nurses than LPNs.

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Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.

LPN/LVN jobs are already being eliminated on a daily basis. It seems that many hospitals are phasing out LPN/LVN positions. You are correct, though. We need to become more active and instrumental.

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Specializes in geriatrics-LTC/clinics/med surg/psych.

:monkeydance:I've read a few comments posted such as "lvn's have a tradeschool education" and that the "lvn rn transition programs train the lvn to think? ***?:angryfire :trout: --PARDON MY FRENCH!!! I dont believe that all lvn programs are equal, but the college I attended didnt X!! the differences in opinion among lvn's/rns seems to stem from education/work experiences and the scope of practice between states.Maybe there needs to be one uniform scope of practice FOR LVN/LPN'S nationwide. Nursing education might need to be re-tooled to improve standards. There are lvn's/rn's out there that have no business being called nurses. some people only want to be rn's so that they can get desk/administration jobs!! some people want to be lvn's so they dont have to be cna's anymore.what ever the reasons we chose to become nurses it doesnt make sense to me that we're still attacking each other.I'm not excited about unions, and I'm not currently a member of an lvn organization but I would join if I knew more about what they're doing.I do beleive lvn/lpn's need to come together to put pressure on state/private healthcare businesses to increase our wages/benefits. Why is california(it seems) the only state where nurses are earning $80-100K/year. It would be nice if lvn's in TX could make $50,000 WITHOUT OT.:lol2:

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I'm an LPN MDS coordinator and at the end of the day I still have to get an RN to sign my R2Bs VB2s. This is the reality. In LTC the roles are sometimes blurred as long as the job gets done. :) LPNs are holding it down in LTC. BUT WE ARE NOT RNs. Yes LPNs will be phased out one day. Knowing this, I would like to see legislation that makes it easier for LPNs to transition to the RN level. The current articulation models are not good enough. I believe that there are LPNs with more than enough education and experience to pass the NCLEX exam and perform well in there roles. Heck we are doing it now. It seems to me that it would be cheaper than importing talent. There is good and bad amongst us all. More good than bad. I learn from both.

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Specializes in Geriatrics.

You say that we need to get active, I would love to know how this can be done. In Massachusetts I know RN's have a union but if LPN's have one thier keeping it secret fromother LPNs.

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Specializes in LTC, Psych, Hospice.

Can you believe that in Louisiana LPN's aren't even required to have CEU's? RN's and CNA's are. Now, with that kind of mentallaty, LPN's will never get respect.

Personally, I usually get 20 or so CEU's on my own every year, and just got certified in hospice and palliative nursing.

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