I get a flu shot every year without any problem, and took a flu shot at work this week. This flu shot hurt a lot. It burned going in, and literally made my eyes tear up. Usually it doesn't hurt at all. I work nights, and went home and to bed right after. When I woke up the area was very swollen, red, hot to touch, and very sore. I took two Tylenol and went to work thinking the new H1N1 made it hurt worse, and it would get better.
By the next morning I felt feverish, my throat was so sore I could barely swallow my own secretions, and I was having periods of dizziness. I would be sitting there charting and suddenly feel as if the room had spun sideways. I made it through the night, and went home to bed. I woke up and my throat was better, but I had nausea, a headache, and was achy all over. I was off for the night so I went back to bed, and had a really rough night. I would be cold, but wake up wet with sweat so I think I was sweating off a fever.
When I got up I had hives all over me 16 total (back, buttocks, and sides). Since I have been up I have two more appear. I am still have a headache, feel achy, and feel feverish even though it shows my temp is normal.
I called into work tonight, and plan on seeing the Dr in the morning.
This year my hospital REQUIRED us to get the flu vaccine, paid for it, and administered it. If this is indeed a reaction can they consider my call in an occurrence, or would it fall under the workers comp plan as a work related situation?
My survey was not of people I knew. I created a webpage with a form consisting of 15 questions. I put up posters around the city, got into the paper and onto Global news. I had respondents from all over Canada.
The CDC and FDA are notoriously tied at the hip.... I submit this article as food for thought:
US vaccines are licensed by the FDA and immunization recommendations are made by the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), which is a committee whose members are appointed by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). ACIP immunization recommendations are enacted into law by public health departments and/or legislatures at the state level, via the energetic efforts of vaccine manufacturer sales representatives. While the ACIP does nothing more than craft and finalize the exact wording detailing recommended doses and ages for administration of vaccines, ACIP recommendations are extraordinarily influential, because they get turned into mandates at the state level.
Who wrote this? How can I check their credentials? Anyone can publish on a web site. Show me an article on a trustworthy site.
And as you succinctly stated... why don't people trust the scientific establishment??
What I found so interesting is that no one in the Government agencies I talked to acknowledged that compliance was an issue. I brought them the numbers (which were similar to an Ipsos-Reid poll) and said "you know, you guys, if vaccination really is the right way to go, aren't you concerned about the number of people (56%) who won't get this H1N1 vaccine. If it is a pandemic that could take a turn for the worst, why aren't people more freaked out about it? How can we create vaccines in a way that cannot be scrutinized as to their safety or efficacy and instill confidence in the public?" No one wanted to ask that question because no one wanted to conduct a review.
I'm not sure which government agencies you spoke with. But the issue of vaccine hesitancy is being looked at at a federal as well as state level. As I said earlier...the issue is less about whether vaccines are safe & effective and more about a lack of trust. There is overwhelming evidence out there about the safety and efficacy of vaccines....but folks don't believe it because it's conducted by the CDC, who they don't trust.
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Well, except that it wasn't the OP that you quoted, so it seems it wasn't the OP to whom you recommended committing fraud. Facts aren't a strong point of yours huh?
What is this blather? I never mentioned the OP, I mentioned the poster, whom I quoted. Wow, you really are confused.
Still waiting for which amendment of the Constitution deals with flu shots.
Hmm, how about the constitutional right to not be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law. And wow, a non-American actually had to figure that out for you. LOL!
What is this blather? I never mentioned the OP, I mentioned the poster, whom I quoted. Wow, you really are confused.
martinhea13 never stated they had a medical reaction to the vaccine, the OP did. Try to keep up.
Sorry, I didn't mean to introduce facts again, I know how that confuses you.
Hmm, how about the constitutional right to not be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law. And wow, a non-American actually had to figure that out for you. LOL!
So close...ok, not really, I was trying to make you feel better.
The constitution protects us from the government usurping our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness . The government isn't requiring the flu shot. Which by the way, is the reason no one is being forced. A person has the freedom to choose to work or not work for any employer.
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martinhea13 never stated they had a medical reaction to the vaccine, the OP did. Try to keep up.Sorry, I didn't mean to introduce facts again, I know how that confuses you.
Wrong, as usual. Martinhea13 posted, "I'm against the shot (had a mild reaction to the H1N1 last year) but have to take it for fear of being asked to discontinue from the course."
Not surprising that you missed it, though.
The constitution protects us from the government usurping our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness . The government isn't requiring the flu shot. Which by the way, is the reason no one is being forced. A person has the freedom to choose to work or not work for any employer.
And you think this mandate isn't trickling down from the federal or state government level? I guess that's why there's several lawsuits in the works, because there are no legalities involved. Wow, naive AND delusional!
Wrong, as usual. Martinhea13 posted, "I'm against the shot (had a mild reaction to the H1N1 last year) but have to take it for fear of being asked to discontinue from the course."
Not surprising that you missed it, though.
That problem you have with facts has reared it's head again, that's an expected side effect, not a medical contraindication....try again.
martinhea13And you think this mandate isn't trickling down from the federal or state government level? I guess that's why there's several lawsuits in the works, because there are no legalities involved. Wow, naive AND delusional!
Wow, that problem you have discerning facts really does interfere with your understanding....
Nope, there are not currently any vaccines that are mandated by the government. States may require vaccination to attend public school, but home schooling is always an option.
The only treatment that is mandated by the government is TB. Due to the seriousness of risk to public health, a patient with TB can be detained to ensure treatment.
I think you're running low on tin foil hats...maybe a double layer might help?
Coincidentally, I took care of a patient last night that was (is) a RN. She suffered respiratory failure last year after the H1N1 vax and now has a trach, Gtube, is down to 89lbs and is likely going to die. Nice lady, sad case. That said, she's obviously an anomaly, and I'd still take the shot if someone would bring it to me.
perhaps you should look up the symptoms of an allergic reaction. you need to follow up and get checked for allergies to the components of the flu shot....hives, airway swelling, flushing...
To those who believe in vaccines, I too at one time shared your belief as that I what I was taught and I believed that I had received good medical training (I graduated in the top of all my classes andtop 1% of my university). However, as life is, I have had life experiences and have seen the adverse affects of vaccines. Now, what is unacceptable , is that just because I have had life experiences that contraindicate what the CDC says, does not mean I will abandon the wisdom from my life experiences.
It is very interesting to note that it is more socially acceptable for me to claim religious practices as a reason to not take the vaccine than to claim an adverse reaction.
We have become so intolerant of anyone that has opposing to views to what we were/are taught. The health care industry has totally lost its compassion .
This vaccine issue has taught me a lot. I find the vaccine campaign and utilization of fear/guilt to entice health care workers to get the flu questionable. What's up with the fear campaign? Anytime ANYBODY utilizes fear to motivate, you should at least question why. Fear is utilizedoften to control. The flu vaccine does not prevent people from getting the flu. Do your own research and see for yourself. Go work in the ER and see...not only for the flu vaccine ,but others as well.. The CDC is not necessarily your bestest buddy ..simply look at how they handled the testing of HIV in blood products. The CDC is a government entity and it is subject to corruption and power plays just like the rest of the government. Australia banned the flu shot nationally for their kids. Think about that one and the process to ban something nationally... gotta have some significant data there.. Take off your polyanna glasses, do your own research and open your mind and think for yourself.
How about good ole common sense in preventing the flu. Good handwashing, healthy diet, healthy thoughts and adequate rest. Maybe that is what the flu is teaching us. We're not getting enough rest. Then why take a shot so we can continue to work instead of honoring our body's own inherit wisdom and enhancing our well-being?.
Regardless of whatever stance you take, develop the compassion for others to honor their life experiences despite the difference from yours..
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I think former adverse reactions is a valid reason not to take it. However, I also think immune compromised patients deserve protection from people who may have the flu before/when they are symptomatic.
Personally, I have only missed it once in 23 years and that year I got the flu and i wanted to die! It really sucked!
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Who wrote this? How can I check their credentials? Anyone can publish on a web site. Show me an article on a trustworthy site.
I'm not sure which government agencies you spoke with. But the issue of vaccine hesitancy is being looked at at a federal as well as state level. As I said earlier...the issue is less about whether vaccines are safe & effective and more about a lack of trust. There is overwhelming evidence out there about the safety and efficacy of vaccines....but folks don't believe it because it's conducted by the CDC, who they don't trust.