Florence against men

[MountainMan]

I have a quote here from Luther Christman PhD,RN,FAAN that Florence Nightingale did everything she could to eliminate men from nursing. I know she is such an iconic hero to so many people but this is very interesting. I am doing a research paper on Chritman so if anyone has anything on this I would like to hear it.

Thanx

[Multicollinearity, BSN, RN]

I like women who get their "dander up"

[Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN]

I like women who get their "dander up"

Yep, forget Selsun Blue. Shake your head and let it snow.

[Multicollinearity, BSN, RN]

Yep, forget Selsun Blue. Shake your head and let it snow.

This comes to mind:

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[MountainMan]

multicollinarity

I LOVE dandery women, I was only saying there was no 'slight correction' to be made. caroladybelle was simply unaware of the cultural pheonomenon that I was referring to.

[SuesquatchRN, BSN, RN]

multicollinarity

I LOVE dandery women, I was only saying there was no 'slight correction' to be made. caroladybelle was simply unaware of the cultural pheonomenon that I was referring to.

She is quite aware of the Eisenhower years. There were some middle class white women of that era who got to stay home with their Hoovers and cookbooks. One of them ended up writing "The Feminine Mystique."

[MountainMan]

I'm talking about women being so repressed that the first popular womens sexuality book 'The Sensuous Woman' was authored by 'J'. She couldn't even use her real name! These were times when women would be embarrassed to buy this book in a bookstore they frequented or even in thier own town afraid they would be looked down on. These were awful times.

clean tidy awful times.....a Hershey bar was only a nickel

[MountainMan]

I hope I'm not sounding 5/4 letter word-y. I'm tiered of this math homework, my eyeballs are falling out, and my head huts, so I am whiney, I just hope I'm not 5/4-y.:trout:

[PANurseRN1]

multicollinarity

I LOVE dandery women, I was only saying there was no 'slight correction' to be made. caroladybelle was simply unaware of the cultural pheonomenon that I was referring to.

Given caroladybelle's numerous insightful posts, I rather doubt she was unaware of anything. Those women you refer to? Of course they were working, just not outside the home. Life was not as peachy-keen for women then as you seem to imply.

[adrienurse, LPN]

:trout: there's also a lot of people who say Flo was a prostitute and prescribed sex with patients as treatment -- doesn't mean it's true.

[MountainMan]

But what if they suffered from hyseria?

[caroladybelle, BSN, RN]

She is quite aware of the Eisenhower years. There were some middle class white women of that era who got to stay home with their Hoovers and cookbooks. One of them ended up writing "The Feminine Mystique."

Thank you, love.

Mtn Man, I was not putting you down, just correcting a serious misconception. But is not appropriate to make assumptions that I do not know what I am talking about, because I am not a certain age.

It would be as if I said that as a man, you really don't have a clue about how women were treated, because you are not a woman and therefore have no room whatsoever to speak on the matter.

Either one involves an "assume" - which as we know, makes an "&*^" out of "u and me". It is unwise to make such assumptions.

Back to topic...anyone know whether Flo was gay or had an STD? Those have always been rumored about her.

[nursemike, ASN, RN]

While I'm glad we're not being judgemental, I do think it's okay to "evaluate" Flo's life and work by our best understanding of what's right and wrong. If she was prejudiced against men, or anyway else, so be it. It doesn't really detract from her accomplishments, but may have held her back from accomplishing more.

I suppose there are several ways of reacting when our heroes have been found to have feet of clay. My take is that most of the advances in human civilization have been accomplished by mortal, fallible, imperfect humans, which opens up a wide range of possibilities for the rest of us mortal, fallible, imperfect humans.