Fired for bad leadership - board of nursing investigating

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I was fired from being a director of nursing at a Long-Term Care facility in a remote, isolated area in Maine. The reason was, as was reported to the Board of Nursing, "not clinical." It was all about my leadership. But the administrator said that she was only going to report to the board of nursing that it wasn't clinical...only leadership. However, she reported to the board all sorts of stuff that are exaggerations, half-truths and some outright lies. Besides the betrayal, which is hard enough to deal with (I'm a big boy, I'm so over and above the catty nature, and awful treatment), I now have to answer to the board of nursing, as the board of nursing took the termination letter and called it a complaint. Unprofessional conduct, or, "a violation of this chapter." I need some help in putting together a response to the board in writing. I am not looking for a lawyer - I simply can't afford it. At this point, I am looking for some pointers of how to seal with the Maine State Board of Nursing in responses. Is there anyone who can help me?

By the way, I think that Long-Term Care is broken. Too much is expected from too few people, with too many people who are just simply, jerks. It is a rare gem to find a supportive facility, with real people who treat people as people - not objects.

Please don't tell me that I should have . I've now learned that lesson...as I am aware that it would have reimbursed for license defense. But that didn't happen. I am now insured...but I w

Specializes in ICU/community health/school nursing.
What the holy Hades? ALL terminations? So if they fire you for absences or some other completely unrelated to clinical work reason, you're going to be reported and have to defend your license? Is this just a Maine thing? If so, I'm staying far away. That's ridiculous. My state can fire for no reason at all.

You beat me to it. That sounds so fishy - all terminations? Really?

We are prohibited from giving advice (as previously stated). You cannot afford not to get a lawyer (as previously stated). Good luck.

Specializes in Critical Care; Cardiac; Professional Development.

I would be looking into finding legal assistance or a lawyer familiar with the BON that will work on a sliding scale. If you still need to work as a nurse, then you can't afford to NOT hire a lawyer.

Truly wishing you well.

I know in my state of IL the nurse practice act requires the NURSE to report themself I'd fired... but no one does this. However, if something comes up later in the form of a complaint to the BON they will ding your license for not reporting being fired.

Can you show me a link that says this? Are you sure it's not just that you have to report being fired due to specific things such as diversion....

Some links the OP may find useful:

Maine Nurse Practice Act

Table of Contents for Chapter 31: NURSES AND NURSING

Definition of unprofessional conduct

https://www.maine.gov/boardofnursing/docs/Chapter%204.pdf

Mandated reporting to the BON

Health Security Act Reporting: Discipline: Maine State Board of Nursing

List of ~1,100 nurses with discipline against them. I looked at the first few dozen, can't find any for unprofessional conduct other than gross malfeasance like lying, stealing, etc.

Disciplinary Actions: Discipline: Maine State Board of Nursing

You may want to consider your employer's complaints versus the list of violations the BON took license action on in deciding whether to get a lawyer to advise you on your response to the complaint.

Specializes in Emergency, Telemetry, Transplant.

If they truly had to report all terminations to the BON, why would anyone take a leadership/management role? If a facility downsizes and fires someone, and the facility makes up "poor leadership," that person has to defend themselves to the BON?

If (IF!) I was a conspiracy theorist, I would say that this is an attempt by lawyers to drum up business; so they get paid for defending nurses who are fired on trumped up charges.

Some links the OP may find useful:

Maine Nurse Practice Act

Table of Contents for Chapter 31: NURSES AND NURSING

Definition of unprofessional conduct

https://www.maine.gov/boardofnursing/docs/Chapter%204.pdf

Mandated reporting to the BON

Health Security Act Reporting: Discipline: Maine State Board of Nursing

List of ~1,100 nurses with discipline against them. I looked at the first few dozen, can't find any for unprofessional conduct other than gross malfeasance like lying, stealing, etc.

Disciplinary Actions: Discipline: Maine State Board of Nursing

You may want to consider your employer's complaints versus the list of violations the BON took license action on in deciding whether to get a lawyer to advise you on your response to the complaint.

Unprofessional conduct and poor leadership seem very different to me. The former could include racist jokes or harrassment whereas the latter could be an unclear vision for the organization or failure to motivate subordinates. Very different in my mind. I can't see reporting a nurse for poor leadership skills.

Specializes in ICU, LTACH, Internal Medicine.
Unprofessional conduct and poor leadership seem very different to me. The former could include racist jokes or harrassment whereas the latter could be an unclear vision for the organization or failure to motivate subordinates. Very different in my mind. I can't see reporting a nurse for poor leadership skills.

One of my former NMs was grilled by Boards exactly for "poor leadership skills" (as well as "poor moral character" and "unprofessional conduct"). She was openly racist and xenophobic and encouraged such behaviors among her staff.

She was not fired and reported to BON by her employer, though. That happened after EEOC investigation and their lawyers met with hospital legal team and recommended turning her in.

You know...that is exactly what I did. I just don't think the BON will bite on this. I just think that they need, "due diligence." But it seems a bit overkill. It is spending my time...taking me away from a good life/work balance.

Since I'm a cynic, I'd say there is more to this story.

Specializes in ER.

OP, Are your initials DC?

If so, just throw yourself at the mercy of the Board, and if you post the results it would make my day.

No my initials are not DC. And please be nice. I am genuinely seeking assistance. And perhaps DC would be genuinely seeking assistance, as well.

OP, Are your initials DC?

If so, just throw yourself at the mercy of the Board, and if you post the results it would make my day.

OP, Are your initials DC?

If so, just throw yourself at the mercy of the Board, and if you post the results it would make my day.

Actually - I will post the results. I do hope it makes your day even if my initials are not DC.

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