Female Nursing Students Dont like me !

LPN1974, LPN · Apr 22, 2005

Thank you. Sure seems that a lot of people have sort of a hostile and suspicious mind set from the get go. "He's kinda different, he doesn't respond THE WHAY WE WOULD WANT HIM TO, let's label him a troll or whatever..."
I don't think that that's a great way to be for a nurse and for anyone for that matter. And even if he was a troll, which I don't think he is, it's still an interesting toppic.

I wasn't suspicious from the "get go"...I was one of the first who responded to him on this thread.

I sincerely wanted to help.

But when you are in a conversation and you're the one doing all the talking and the other person never responds, eventually you don't want to talk anymore.

Same way here.

I responded back to him and apologized if I misjudged him.

It IS an interesting subject, one of which gets alot of attention on this board.

Students and nurses beng mistreated/ignored in some way by their peers draws alot of attention.

vermonthiker · Apr 22, 2005

I was raised in a very structured environment with a strict caste system. Men have certain roles as do women. I hold to those beliefs and value system. If I changed my beliefs whenever somebody disagrees with me then I don't see how that would be very helpful. I was asked to share my feelings and I did.

Well that explains a little, however many of us change our values when we are adults.

It's interesting how we preceive things based on our childhoods. My son always went to a female doctor and had a friend who's mother was female. When he was about 6, he got sick and I took him to a male dr -- our primary wasn't working that day. Later he kept telling my husband that the nurse did this, the nurse did that. My husband asked, what did the dr do? He claimed he didn't see a dr, just a two nurses. One man and one woman. He was amazed when I explained to him that men can be doctors too! :rotfl:

LPN1974, LPN · Apr 22, 2005

Well that explains a little, however many of us change our values when we are adults.
It's interesting how we preceive things based on our childhoods. My son always went to a female doctor and had a friend who's mother was female. When he was about 6, he got sick and I took him to a male dr -- our primary wasn't working that day. Later he kept telling my husband that the nurse did this, the nurse did that. My husband asked, what did the dr do? He claimed he didn't see a dr, just a two nurses. One man and one woman. He was amazed when I explained to him that men can be doctors too! :rotfl:

I thought all mothers WERE female.

Are they NOT?

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Apr 22, 2005

No, all mothers are not female.

fab4fan · Apr 22, 2005

Thank you. Sure seems that a lot of people have sort of a hostile and suspicious mind set from the get go. "He's kinda different, he doesn't respond THE WHAY WE WOULD WANT HIM TO, let's label him a troll or whatever..."
I don't think that that's a great way to be for a nurse and for anyone for that matter. And even if he was a troll, which I don't think he is, it's still an interesting toppic.

You haven't been a member here as long as some of us. Trust me, there are indeed trolls here, and after a while you get to know some of the tricks of their trade.

I find it difficult to believe that a nursing program would be able to accommodate someone with both a hearing disability and lack of rudimentary English. Kinda hard to be a nurse if you can't communicate effectively.

But then again, I'm just a big meanie...

AngelSpirit · Apr 22, 2005

I don't know what the heck you are talking about, and I've lived/worked on both US coasts. This is not a personal attack. I'm just wondering where you are really located and/or from. You mentioned the "caste" system. Are you from India? Your post does not reflect American culture, so just wondering. It may help to clarify your position.

I was not responding to you (there are other posts in this thread). If you read all the posts you will see some responses that in my mind are not appropriate or rational. I was honest and civil with my response to the OP and I can see that some people have problems with that. I also see a number of erroneous assumptions (my feelings about male nurses = bullying, discrimination, bad behavior, etc). I clearly stated that I try not to let my feelings prejudice my behavior. However I will say that in light of some of these highly emotional responses my "feelings" have not changed and probably have been strengthened somewhat. I am not comfortable around male nurses and clearly there are other people who feel that way.

estrogen · Apr 22, 2005

You haven't been a member here as long as some of us. Trust me, there are indeed trolls here, and after a while you get to know some of the tricks of their trade.
I find it difficult to believe that a nursing program would be able to accommodate someone with both a hearing disability and lack of rudimentary English. Kinda hard to be a nurse if you can't communicate effectively.
But then again, I'm just a big meanie...

Oh My GOD! Well I guess you are being a meanie! :coollook: there are a lot of nurses with hearing or other "disabilities" in my hospital... We have nurses that don't hear that well, don't walk that well, we even have nurses with ADD, bipolar disorder.... And as far as having English as a SECOND language... Is that a disability to you too? Well how about the lack of knowledge of a second language other than English??? Geez, you just prooved my point from my prev. post... Goodness Gracious!

Oh and you're right I'm new to this message board. Thanks for "Orienting me". Sheesh! :chuckle

P.S. And by the way, it seems to me that the person who started this thread communicates just fine and his knowledge of English is more than merely rudimentary... How is your knowledge of say, Spanish, Philipino, Russian or any other Language?

I'm sorry if I'm OT, but I just can't keep quiet to this subject...

JUSTYSMOM · Apr 22, 2005

Agreed.
:yelclap:

So do I . :)

TDub, MSN, EdD · Apr 22, 2005

I was not responding to you (there are other posts in this thread). If you read all the posts you will see some responses that in my mind are not appropriate or rational. I was honest and civil with my response to the OP and I can see that some people have problems with that. I also see a number of erroneous assumptions (my feelings about male nurses = bullying, discrimination, bad behavior, etc). I clearly stated that I try not to let my feelings prejudice my behavior. However I will say that in light of some of these highly emotional responses my "feelings" have not changed and probably have been strengthened somewhat. I am not comfortable around male nurses and clearly there are other people who feel that way.

I would like to weigh in on this issue. I think AngelSpirit is entitled to her opinion. People state "I think you're wrong" "Where were you raised?" "I wouldn't give you the time of day"

She gave an honest, civil, clear answer. She never said she was right, she said, "This is how I feel."` Why are her feelings so unacceptable? Think about it.....if we worked in a hospital in her culture, we would be considered uncouth or unusual for promoting male nurses. Does that make us bad? Are we wrong? No, just out of step with the dominant culture.

For the record, I only care if someone is a good nurse, not what color. gender or orientation someone is.

Judge not lest ye be judged. (Another cultural maxim)

LPN1974, LPN · Apr 22, 2005

I thought all mothers WERE female.
Are they NOT?

Well, I know yall must have another meaning for mother, but I looked in webster's dictionary online, and the only definition I find there indicates that mothers are female.

Would you care to give your definition?

Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Main Entry: 1moth-er

Pronunciation: 'm&-[th]&r

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English moder, from Old English mOdor; akin to Old High German muoter mother, Latin mater, Greek mEtEr, Sanskrit mAtr

1 a : a female parent b (1) : a woman in authority; specifically : the superior of a religious community of women (2) : an old or elderly woman

2 : SOURCE, ORIGIN

3 : maternal tenderness or affection

4 [short for mother******] sometimes vulgar : one that is particularly impressive or contemptible

- moth-er-hood /-"hud/ noun

- moth-er-less /-l&s/ adjective

- moth-er-less-ness noun

TStewartfan · Apr 22, 2005

I am sorry you are treated that way. We have eight male students in a class of eighty. I like hanging out with the guys sometimes more than the girls. Most of the men in our class are older men, ones who have families and a couple of them are retired military. They jump in and help and one of them is one of my study buddies. Sometimes I would rather hang out with the guys in our class because some of the girls are so concerned about how their hair looks or what they are wearing rather than passing class. I can say out of all of the eight men in our class, there is only one in there who seems to be goofing off most of the time, the other men are busting their butts as if to prove they belong there. I KNOW they belong there. I sit between two of them. I used to sit between two of my friends but they became so petty and childish about grades that I moved. The men aren't so competitive in our class, I mean my one friend practically BRAGS about her grades in front of the guys and they want to STRANGLE her in fact most of the class wants to strangle her..............and to think she wants to run for 1st Vice President of FNSA.....

Hang in there, you are a GREAT GREAT GREAT asset to the nursing profession, we need more men. Our school SCREAMS for men to apply and I am trying to get my 15 year old son to think about it. You will do great, make sure you make yourself a part of the groups, if you wait for someone to invite you in, you might be waiting for awhile. Break the ice, and you will see that the "girls" will treat you just like a buddy of theirs.

Jodi Levins

fab4fan · Apr 22, 2005

Oh My GOD! Well I guess you are being a meanie! there are a lot of nurses with hearing or other "disabilities" in my hospital... We have nurses that don't hear that well, don't walk that well, we even have nurses with ADD, bipolar disorder.... And as far as having English as a SECOND language... Is that a disability to you too? Well how about the lack of knowledge of a second language other than English??? Geez, you just prooved my point from my prev. post... Goodness Gracious!
Oh and you're right I'm new to this message board. Thanks for "Orienting me". Sheesh! :chuckle
P.S. And by the way, it seems to me that the person who started this thread communicates just fine and his knowledge of English is more than merely rudimentary... How is your knowledge of say, Spanish, Philipino, Russian or any other Language?
I'm sorry if I'm OT, but I just can't keep quiet to this subject...

Well, I am sorry you took umbrage at my simply pointing out that as a newer member you may not be aware of "troll tactics." I didn't say that as an insult, but I'm sorry you took it that way.

Also, nowhere did I say that ESL was a "disability." Nowhere. I am well aware that there are nurses working with all kinds of disabilities; I have a disability myself.

For the record, I speak Spanish well enough to be used as an interpreter.

I hope I've addressed all of your issues with my posts. Good luck in your further attempts to help the OP.