facial mask of pain...is this ssubjective or objective data

[juliasmommy]

thank you

[Bonny619]

I would say objective, you can see it.

[lpnin07]

subjective because you can't actually measure it. Like for example vitals have a number that you can measure them by ( making them objective )

[Pachinko]

That's hard, but I'd say objective, for the reason that Bonny619 gave.

[sirI, MSN, APRN, NP]

Here is link to a PDF file about pain and subjective/objective data:

http://www.cityofhope.org/prc/pdf/Self_Learning_Kaiser.pdf#search='is%20grimacing%20objective%20or%20subjective%20findings%3F'

[Halinja, BSN, RN]

Subjective and Objective are a little different in nursing than in english classes, or regular life for that matter.

In nursing, Subjective data is data that you are told, or that you gleaned from a written record.

Objective Data is information that you see (or hear...lung sounds etc) smell, taste (my peds teacher says you can do a quick sodium check on a child's skin to see if they might have cystic fibrosis). Basically anything you can percieve with your senses.

[Imafloat, BSN, RN]

I say it is objective because you are seeing it and giving it the name facial mask of pain. Subjective is what the subject (patient) tells you. Examples of subjective pain references are the character of pain (burning, stabbing) the pain rating (when you ask what the pain is on a scale of 1-10).

[I RN A]

It's subjective: pain is the pt's response to illness, although it can be measure on the scale from 0 to 10, it's still subjective, because pain is the pt's perception.

[Melina]

Subjective and Objective are a little different in nursing than in english classes, or regular life for that matter.

In nursing, Subjective data is data that you are told, or that you gleaned from a written record.

Objective Data is information that you see (or hear...lung sounds etc) smell, taste (my peds teacher says you can do a quick sodium check on a child's skin to see if they might have cystic fibrosis). Basically anything you can percieve with your senses.

I agree. If one were to report that the pt said she was experiencing severe pain, that would be subjective, but the observable signs of pain: grimacing, jerking away, etc. are objective.

~Mel'

[nicuRN2007]

objective...it's something you observe, not something the patient tells you.

Also, the link from Kaiser that siri posted states:

The assessment of the patient with pain shall include objective data.

1. Vital signs (blood pressure, pulse and respiration).

2. Patient behavior (grimacing, frowning, crying out or guarding).

3. Emotional expressions such as anger, depression, irritability, fear.

[scaredofshots]

Subjective is what Someone Said

Objective is what is Observed

[smk1, LPN]

Objective. It is what you observe in the patient. When the patient tells you it is a "burning pain 3/10" that is subjective, because it is based ONLY on what the patient tells you.