facial mask of pain...is this ssubjective or objective data

[juliasmommy]

thank you

[ernbabjr, BSN, RN]

objective...it's something you observe, not something the patient tells you.

Also, the link from Kaiser that siri posted states:

The assessment of the patient with pain shall include objective data.

1. Vital signs (blood pressure, pulse and respiration).

2. Patient behavior (grimacing, frowning, crying out or guarding).

3. Emotional expressions such as anger, depression, irritability, fear.

Yes i agree with this.. the explanation was very clear: Objective is the only answer unless it was told you or by verbaly it would be subjective.

[RN2BN08]

This is objective because you are making the judgment that it is pain. Subjective is what a patient says.

[bisson]

if you are putting it in the chart as something that YOU observed, then of course it's objective.

even if it is pain that is felt by the pt, it is still YOU that observed the intensity of the facial expression. non-verbal communication is objective because you can SEE it.

[firstyearstudent]

Signs of pain such as writhing and grimacing are objective. Reports of pain, such as "It hurts like hades," are subjective.

[AggieNurse99, BSN, RN]

Objective = verifiable. Can another nurse observe the same thing? A lab test can be repeated. Radiology films can be read by someone else. If in any way possible for another health care provider to confirm or rebuke.

Subjective = "the patient verbalizes..." "the patient's wife reports .... "

[sephinroth]

Subjective. Pain can only be felt by the patient. Am i right? O_O

[Bonny619]

no. :icon_hug:

Subjective. Pain can only be felt by the patient. Am i right? O_O